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Q: Why does the article include the name in Spanish at the top?
A: Because as this article talks about a sovereignty dispute, and the name is part of that dispute, both ones are referenced in the lead. The rule is to name the islands as Falklands, with a reference to the Malvinas name on first use in the article, and from then on call them simply Falklands. This rule is detailed at Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Falkland Islands. This rule only apply to articles that deal with geography or the dispute itself.
Q: The newspapers are talking about the dispute! Shouldn't the article include that info?
A: In most cases, the likely answer is no. This article tries to keep a summary of the dispute from a historical point of view, and avoid recentism. Most of the times that the press talks about this, it is either the anniversary of some old event, or something that can be shortened as "A British politician said that the Falklands must remain British" or "An Argentine politician said that the Falklands must be Argentine". Those things rarely have an actual significance for the dispute, as they are just a confirmation that both sides are simply staying at their regular positions. Sometimes, a modern event may have the required historical significance (such as the Falkland Islands sovereignty referendum, 2013), but those are rare, and do not take place on a regular basis.
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UNESCO would classify the islanders as indigenous, having existed for 9-10 generations in the islands. Bit off-topic and violating WP:FORUM to discuss though and since I'm not aware of any source making such a claim it would be WP:OR to put in the article. Plus I can already hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from here in Scotland. WCMemail11:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
In everyday usage, when talking about indigenous people" in the Americas we usually mean those who lived in the continent before the Europeans came, and that's it. Indigenous groups that displaced other indigenous groups before that (such as the Mapuches) are still called indigenous, for that matter. Cambalachero (talk) 13:48, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
The relevance would be I did think of adding it to the article, but I too could see the likely result. I had thought if the UN definition is clearlt met that would be source enough. I had wondered if 200 years was long enough. And I wondered about the earlier settlements that preceded 1833 that were ended in differing circumstances. Could they be described as the indigenous people? Anyway, if I did add something, certainly without a good RSS I would testing the ground, ie giving an opinion, so I will let it be. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 21:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Just to illustrate the divisiveness of that highly derivative definition, if China invaded USA tomorrow, displaced and deported everyone who was not of native American (1st nation) descent, then no indigenous people would have been displaced. Even if 98% of the population of the USA (including African Americans) would have been displaced. Maybe we can move away from the European bashing. Did the Argentinians not come from Spain? They would therefore not be indigenous to Argentina 82.71.8.175 (talk) 17:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
New line in subject "History": President-elect Milei of Argentina stating that Argentina has a "Non Negotiable" claim on the Falkland Islands (stated "Malvines")
The title says it all. Sources from about 24 hours ago or earlier have stated that Milei had stated this claim on the campaign trail, with one of the sources saying that he said if I recall correctly: "military conflict is not an option."
He also supposedly compared it to British Hong Kong to China.
Perhaps this is worthy of a small reference in this article? If this is Milei's position on the issue, it could be subject to some notable change in the future.
Not really of any relevance to the Falkland Islands, so I would suggest not. If it makes a material change then maybe, till then, no. WCMemail14:18, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
So far it's just things said to the press. Milei has not taken office yet and does not manage Argentina's international relations yet. We should wait and see, first for him to become president, and then what things does he actually do. Have in mind that he will receive a country with a devastated economy (inflation is over 100%, and that's not a typo!), so don't be surprised if he has other priorities than the Falklands conflict for a time. Cambalachero (talk) 14:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
I would recommend caution there, too. Keep in mind that Milei is in the minority in both houses of Congress, has no governors from his party, and his party is almost deprived of a political structure. His only strength is his popularity, but popularity may be fleeting, especially when the country is in an economic crisis of this scale. The claim over the Falklands remains popular among Argentine people, and even if Milei does not agree with it he may opt not making changes to the current international policy, to avoid the decline in his popularity that it may cause. Cambalachero (talk) 19:04, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
hey its the same anon guy that posted this here.
thank you all again for your suggestions and answers, I'll be sure to keep them in mind regarding Argentina, their new president, and the Falklands. :)
It is deeply inappropriate to plaster a country's Misplaced Pages page with a dispute raised by one country. At most it should be a historical footnote. For Lithuania, Ukraine or Poland, you have not allowed Russian editors to claim dispute that these countries are claimed by Russia. For Taiwan, you have not allowed PRC editors to claim dispute all over that page. The list goes on. So why would you disrespect the people of the Falklands, and the people of the UK by allowing Argentinian editors to plater their claim over this page? Its discovery is not disputed. It was discovered by Europeans. Just as Argentina, or the USA or Puerto Rico was. Subsequently some populations adopted these countries more than others. 82.71.8.175 (talk) 17:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
This article currently claims the 'Îles Malouines' were first named by Bougainville in 1764. I doubt this can be true, as the islands are marked under the same name in Guillaume Delisle's 1722 map of the Americas. This was pointed out by somebody called Lewis Bettany in a letter published in the Times Literary Supplement on the 13th of February 1930; he credits the naming only to the 'men of St Malo' some time after 1698. Thgomas (talk) 19:51, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
An unsourced letter (let alone one from 1930) is not good enough for a positive confirmation but copies of the 1722 map, including digital scans, show the name in use earlier than 1764. Could we have something like: 'the term "Îles Malouines" is first recorded in 1722...?' Thgomas (talk) 02:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Looks a bit like wp:or, if an RS says otherwise we need another RS contesting it. One issue may be maps are reissued as this was and often updated (this may have been) without acknowledgment, so we do not know if this is a 1722 1st edition or a much later (and modified) reprint. Which is why we need an RS's assessment. Slatersteven (talk) 11:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 00:41, 21 October 2024 (UTC)