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| (Top) |
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| Early life |
8,622 |
8,622
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| Musical career |
21 |
110,536
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| 1996–2002: Early work and Roc-A-Fella |
8,907 |
8,907
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| 2003–2006: The College Dropout and Late Registration |
11,553 |
11,553
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| 2007–2009: Graduation, 808s & Heartbreak, and VMAs incident |
16,493 |
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| 2010–2012: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Watch the Throne, and Cruel Summer |
9,439 |
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| 2013–2015: Yeezus and the Yeezus Tour |
13,582 |
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| 2016–2017: The Life of Pablo and tour cancellation |
13,776 |
13,776
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| 2017–2019: Ye and the Wyoming Sessions |
11,134 |
11,134
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| 2019–2022: Jesus Is King, Donda, and Donda 2 |
16,006 |
16,006
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| 2023–present: Vultures trilogy and Bully |
9,625 |
9,625
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| Musical style |
14,413 |
14,413
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| Other ventures |
21 |
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11,092 |
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80 |
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| 2020 |
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11,450
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| 2024 |
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| Views |
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Discussions:
- RM, Kanye West → Ye (rapper), Not moved, 13 December 2021, discussion
- RM, Kanye West → Ye, Speedy close, 17 February 2022, discussion
- RM, Kanye West → Ye (artist), Not moved, 3 November 2022, discussion
- RM, Kanye West → Ye (Artist), Not moved, 20 September 2023, discussion
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scrictly referred to as “ye”
ye recently exclaimed only being called “ye” and that the name “kanye west” was a slave name. my thinking is that spotify and apple music are gonna refer to him as ye now instead of kanye west which brings up the question wether or not the article name should be called “Ye (musician)” or something like that instead of “Kanye West” Purpetic (talk) 20:11, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- We'll see. See WP:CRYSTAL. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- He should be referred to as Ye, 100%. Just have Kanye West redirect to Ye. If we would change the name of a transgender individual to their preferred name I see no reason why the same can’t happen with Ye. Maninacoffin (talk) 02:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
@Purpetic and Muboshgu: I've noticed that Ye's artist moniker on platforms such as Spotify, Apple Music and YouTube is still Kanye West, and his latest 2024 albums were released as Kanye West. So Ye is his legal name and Kanye West is still is artist moniker? Israell (talk) 18:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- That would suggest that "Kanye West" remains is WP:COMMONNAME. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ye should be referred to as "Ye". i've read through the talkpage archives and the arguments used to prevent moving this to its correct title are unpersuasive, especially WP:DEADNAME. the policy in the black community is that one should not "call someone out of their name", and i don't see any real reason to leave this page at its current title, but that's just my two cents. i will likely make a move request unless anyone can provide a persuasive reason to leave it at this title. Daddyelectrolux (talk) 20:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Daddyelectrolux, considering that there have been four unsuccessful requested moves within the past three years, each with essentially the same rationale, such a request could be viewed as disruptive. I don't see WP:DEADNAME used as an argument in the discussions but rather WP:COMMONNAME, which dictates that Misplaced Pages use the name that is most
commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources)
for the article title. That is policy. Unless you intend to refute that "Kanye West" is his COMMONNAME per that policy, the chances of a successful move appear slim. Throast (talk | contribs) 21:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- consensus can change, and three years is a long time. Daddyelectrolux (talk) 05:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, maybe refer kanye west as Ye for when he is referenced in times after he changed his name Tulurm (talk) 06:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Where does it say to do that in[REDACTED] policy? 183.177.48.166 (talk) 03:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bluddy talking about the Misplaced Pages policy while doxxing himself Maninacoffin (talk) 08:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Racist Antisemite
Kanye West MUST labeled a racist anti semite at the beginning of the post. 2601:246:5601:CA20:ED79:FF42:A7B9:B96 (talk) 04:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- That wouldn't be very neutral. Babysharkboss2!! 14:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- not neutral, you clearly have some sort of agenda if you want it at the very beginning of the article. 108.27.60.251 (talk) 19:41, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that Ye is literally just racist and its not an agenda. Just like how Hitler would be called racist and you aren't following an agenda for saying that. 2403:5817:9937:0:4DD0:3150:36E9:6A11 (talk) 07:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not disagreeing with the fact that he has made racist remarks, I just don't believe it would be neutral to put it at the beginning of the "post". Its not the very main thing he's known for. Besides, the bottom paragraph of the header is already dedicated to this aspect of Kanye.
- Also, this request probably does stem from a vendetta against Ye, just a feeling from the demanding tone. 108.27.60.251 (talk) 02:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 November 2024
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Hello, I would like to just add a few links and fix a few typos! Have a good day! Axolotlguy1321 (talk) 18:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:57, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Extended protected edit request 26 November 2024
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In the lead, there is this paragraph:
“West has also released the collaborative albums Watch the Throne (2011) with Jay-Z, Kids See Ghosts (2018) with Kid Cudi, and Vultures 1 and Vultures 2 (2024) with Ty Dolla Sign. ”
I’d like to request to change the bolded ‘and’ with ‘as well as’, since the double ‘and’ makes the sentence unwieldy.
2605:8D80:1393:2744:B554:D2FB:9D7E:BDAE (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Done PianoDan (talk) 18:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Album era
is this really notable enough to include in the see also section? we don't need to add the link to that page to every artist during that era. 146.199.146.160 (talk) 10:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Throast (talk | contribs) 12:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
"Ye" name in body text
Question: Since Ye has legally changed his name from "Kanye Omari West" to "Ye", shouldn't the body of the article refer to him as "Ye" instead of "West"?
The title, Kanye West, fits Misplaced Pages's policy since it is a Commonly Recognized Name, so that should stay.
But in the body, isn't it customary to use the person's legal name? Cher, for example, another celebrity with only one name, is referred to in her article as "Cher" throughout, and not her former last name "Sarkisian".
Of course his birth name should be included in the lead, as outlined in "WP:CHANGEDNAME", but I don't understand the justification for continuing to use "West" to describe him in the rest of the article. If anyone can find Misplaced Pages policy to contradict the change to "Ye", please correct me. 70.166.197.98 (talk) 04:01, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is a unique situation, thus policy is not totally clear on this. I discussed this with another editor here and did not reach a consensus. The comparison to Cher is not great imo because Cher is referred to by virtually all secondary sources by that name, whereas Kanye West is referred to by his new mononymous legal name by a minority of secondary sources; the vast majority still refer to him as Kanye West, so changing all subsequent uses to "Ye" feels forced and would probably confuse a lot of readers. Throast (talk | contribs) 17:31, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- It wouldn’t confuse a lot of users if the page was also using his legal name, this whole situation is dumb Maninacoffin (talk) 02:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- It... already does say that Ye is his legal name at the very beginning of the article? Besides, like the others have said, most sources call him Kanye West, so it would be customary to also refer to him as West for the rest of the article. 108.27.60.251 (talk) 02:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
edit on ye fromly kanye west
can you please change the photo of ye to the latest of him it the current one is 10 years ago. Kanye West at the Met Gala in 2019 2.png Jypian (talk) 04:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- That image is very low-quality. Recency alone is not good enough of a reason to change an infobox image. Throast (talk | contribs) 14:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Might be a dumb question, but are there really not that many good-quality recent images of Ye? 108.27.60.251 (talk) 02:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are not. Misplaced Pages has a very stringent image use policy, which only allows freely licensed images. Photos of celebrities are usually non-free. High-quality ones especially are few and far between. Throast (talk | contribs) 13:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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