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Scope

Dose the project include wild pigeons, pigeon post, or anything to do with doves? Perhaps the scope should be relevant to both Doves and Pigeons, in which case the taskforce would need a different name. Snowman (talk) 10:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Just my opinions of course.

• Wild pigeons: no--there are articles for the various species of wild pigeons and this would definitely fall outside of the scope of domesticated pigeons. Domesticated pigeons in this context means birds derived from C. livia.If you're talking about feral pigeons then yes, I would say that that would fall within this scope but I think there's already a GA article covering that topic.

• Just because there is already a page, does not necessarily mean that it is not within the scope. I thought that wild pigeons (the nearest species only) might be included, because of the genetic similarities and origins of domesticated pigeons, which did not spring-up out of the blue. Snowman (talk) 12:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Pigeon post: yes, there would be an article on this I suppose.

• Also "Dickin Medal", "War time pigeon post". Snowman (talk) 12:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Doves: no--doves are related but different birds. This would be similar to saying a Parrot task force should include budgies and parakeets because they're related birds. They're all psittacines but they are different birds. I guess I would just see the scope as being sufficiently broad when you just consider domesticated pigeons. There are hundreds of breeds of domesticated pigeons and therefore a need for hundreds of articles just to cover the breeds alone--all that without discussing domesticated doves.

Excellent observation and excellent question, Snowmanradio.--Onorio (talk) 11:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Actually, I have been thinking that there should be a "Parrot" task force to include all parrots, big and small, over 300 species. Snowman (talk) 12:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)