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If you're here to whine and complain that But <place image name here> is just like my image and isn't tagged for deletion I will tag that image too, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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User:AmiDaniel/VP/Approval

Hi there :), I was wondering being that you removed the backlog notice from the page, if you could approve me and some of the other users that are currently awaiting approval to use VP :). Thanks and All the Best, --Mifter (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Sunset Beach pictures

Hey Betacommand! I would like to ask you about the reason why you deleted all the pictures I uploaded for Sunset Beach List of Sunset Beach characters. They were all screenshots, each of them had a fair-use rationale for both the actor and the article. So, please, if you find time, before my pics get erased, can you explain what was the reason you deleted it?

I fixed the links in all of those pictures, if that was the problem. Can I return the pictures to the article now? Dmarex (talk) 09:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:NFCC Images in list are not allowed. β 12:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

If the page was titled "Sunset Beach minor characters," could the pictures be featured then there? Dmarex (talk) 12:08, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

No, its still a list of.. page regardless of the exact title. β 12:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Then what about One Life to Live minor characters? I just want things to be fair. Dmarex (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

That has been addressed. β 12:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Then I guess it's only fair for me to report the site that I created and wrote too: List of Santa Barbara cast and characters. I guess I should speedy delete all of those numerous pictures. And thanks for letting me know about the rules, nobody did for almost a year. Dmarex (talk) 12:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

the group picture at the top is good, but the excessive pictures of each character violate the non-free content policy. β 12:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Ooops, you deleted all the character airdates on the List of Sunset Beach characters? And sorry if I'm bothering you. Dmarex (talk) 12:21, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry Im always happy to explain. I went ahead and fixed that, I miss read the source text and thought it was part of the image caption. β 12:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Torchwood monsters and aliens

I'm at a loss to understand these image deletions; as User:Islander pointed out in his edit summary "if each monster had their own article there wouldn't be a problem", and whereas he may be wrong, I have spent considerable time (which has not been applied to getting other articles to GA status) sorting out the FUR's. Would you mind explaining in detail which part of WP:NFCC any or all of these images breaches, preferably on the article talk page so that others can examine the particular parts of that policy you have in mind, because being familiar with that policy, I just don't see it. Thanks. --Rodhull andemu 12:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

there have been numerious previous discussions about the same issue, except for one or two group pictures, non-free content is not allowed in lists. β 12:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I have already asked for clarification on the article talk page. But we really cannot have policy, if it is, in fact, policy, addressed to us without some reference other than WP:NFCC; that doesn't help. Any links? I know you understand these things but other editors are entitled to know exactly why their work has been removed. Thanks. --Rodhull andemu 12:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Im going to e-mail you a copy of User:Durin/Fair use overuse explanation (it has been deleted) Im attempting to have it un-deleted. but until I can recover the history of the page I cant post this on wiki yet. (it would be a GDFL violation). this should answer most of your questions. β 12:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Received and digested. Meanwhile it would help if you stopped edit-warring on that page when not the policy itself, but the particular application of that policy, is being discussed. Editors may need educating, but threatening blocks isn't helpful in the circumstances. It's clearly a grey area and I don't rule out seeking further clarification. --Rodhull andemu 14:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

this issue has been talked to death already. except for group shots non-free content is not allowed in lists. β 14:28, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Clearly it hasn't been discussed enough, 'cause if it had, the policy would be a lot clearer by now. What you've cited above is an essay, showing one interpretation of the NFCC policy (the very fact that the policy is open to interpretation shows that there are flaws with it). What you, as of yet, have failed to do, is state where in current policy it is stated that all uses of images in list articles consistute overuse. I definitely don't believe that in this Torchwood case there is overuse of free images. You state that my reversions (and Rodhullandemu's) will lead to our blocking - for what, exactly? You, on the other hand, are close to a 3RR blocking (though I'll admit that in my latest summary for the Torchwood article I miscounted your reverts - you're on two, not three). _Talk Islander 14:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you please show me where it says "except for group shots non-free content is not allowed in lists" please. Dr. Stantz (talk) 16:33, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

List of recurring characters from The Mighty Boosh

See article's talk page Cbsite (talk) 13:38, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2007-05-07/Fair use OK, the policy is not stated specifically, one, and two, there is some discussion about images for each episode; however, the images here are random screen shots not tied to any specific episode.Cbsite (talk) 13:38, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

see my comment above, I sent you a copy also. β 14:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)