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I have restored the category. He is of part Jewish descent, practices the religion and many of his patronage appointments (including his $250,000 + scandal emroiled police chief Dean Esserman) are Jews. Here are 2 sources: ], ],].John celona (talk) 16:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
It's sourced and we do seem to keep lists of Jews on Misplaced Pages, so I'm not redeleting it. But I question why we keep such lists. And I question the good faith of Jew-spotters whose own edit history includes Holocaust denial, which, under WP policy is, per se, incivil. David in DC (talk) 06:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
User threeafterthree removed this article from the category Jewish (where it had been previously been put by another user-not me). I found 3 sources and restored it. My mother is a Parisian Jew who survived World war II. Please stop accusing me of anti-semetism, threats, holocaust denial and other fabricated allegations as you are doing here and every other page you can. John celona (talk) 01:43, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I've addressed this many times both to your slanders and Jkp212's slanders. You are well aware of this. My mother is a Jew. PLEASE stop harrasing and stalking me everwhere on Misplaced Pages. John celona (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Firefighters dispute
I've tried to copy edit this section in a content-neutral way, but to shorten it, and in that way diminish the WP:WEIGHT problems that increase with every POV edit by partisans of the firefighter's local. I have no dog in this fight, but I fear the page is slowly turning into a firefighter's union screed against the subject, instead of a neutral encyclopedia article. What do others think? David in DC (talk) 23:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Absolutely, David. I appreciate that the editor has the forthrightness to chose name like "Provpublicsafety" and I've tried balance the page out without triggering some kind of backlash or claims that WP is a Cicilline Haven, but a bias is creeping in. I'm going to put a note in the section and direct all future edits about the firefighter's union to the discussion page here for POV balance before adding.--Loodog (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. There has obviously been a spate of POV edits from firefighters (or their allies) that has markedly reduced the quality of the article. The whole section needs a re-write. — Lincolnite (talk) 08:50, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
That's a good idea. The only reason I opted to make edits is because what was there was scant and not accurate, previous edit had dispute starting in 2005. I will be adding more. I am not a firefighter or a member of the union--Provpublicsafety (talk) 02:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Keep in mind as you add information to the section that the section should only be as big as notability dictates i.e. that whatever fraction of Cicilline's existence is about the firefighter's union issue is what fraction of the article we should spend on it. We shouldn't overweight the issue just because of the plethora of information about it that's out there.--Loodog (talk) 02:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)::I meant adding more in other sections (mayors brother John, crime statistics, appointees receiving exhorbitant salaries. Right now, the entry is mostly Cicilline PR--Provpublicsafety (talk) 04:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
As Mayor
The mayors website is not a reliable source (14% Mgmnt Positions Only): "The city has eliminated 14% of management positions,. . . ." There is a news article for the bond rating--Joe 12:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Provpublicsafety (talk • contribs)
Agree. If you can find a reliable source either disputing this or providing its own data, that's preferable. The mayor's website has obvious cause to paint more favorable statistics.--Loodog (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
