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DoYouDo

Not notable. Delete. - brenneman 07:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Scratch that.. Something fishy is going on here... read the anon users history and user talk listings.... Jwissick 00:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
There's a lot going on that's fishy. Among other things, an anon user deleted a bunch of text from this VfD page, most of which was ostensibly from a different anon user. See this page's edit history. These deletions left some of the remaining comments rather out of context. It hardly seems worthwhile to go back and re-integrate the deleted text at this point, however, since it seems obvious that the article is going down. --RoySmith 04:07, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete; spam. Loganberry (Talk) 23:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete per nominator, with prejudice when it starts showing up again in other places. Nandesuka 03:59, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, not promotional, has 3rd party coverage. "San Mateo-based doYOU2.com is expected to give MatchNet key competitive advantage as its matchmaking sites grow and become relationship portals, while also opening Match Net up to a younger audience." , also covered in Business Wire Kappa 12:24, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as re-written. --Carnildo 21:11, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Reviewed the small re-write and the two links provided. No change in opinon: It's a idea that's cute but failed to go anywhere and recieved zero attention outside this page and the patent office. Thus still delete as not notable. - brenneman 00:13, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Merge and redirect to Anonymous matching. I logged onto eCRUSH yesterday to see what that's all about. It seems identical to the system described in the DoYouDo patent, and eCRUSH is mentioned in the 2002 MatchNet annual report. See Talk:DoYouDo. I am trying to figure out, though, if the "proprietary and patented" process they use refers to DoYouDo's patent. In any case, if the stats eCRUSH claims(1.6 million registered users; 350,000 matches) are accurate, then the idea's notability and success are beyond dispute. DoYOU2.com's implementation was flawed, but it's just plain incorrect to say the idea "failed to go anywhere." 205.217.105.2 12:14, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
    • Note: this is the creator of the article referred to above by Wahoofive and CesarB . In the future, please refrain from deleting votes and comments on active debates, even your own, it makes them confusing and requires information such as this to be reposted. A simple strikethrough works fine. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:01, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I was having trouble making up my mind until the eCRUSH info came to light, and I didn't want my struckthrough comments to prejudice other people's votes. 205.217.105.2 20:26, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
        • Why are you voting Keep on this article for a non-existant company based on the fact that a different company is similar?
          brenneman 00:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
          • The editor is countering your comment that the company's idea "failed to go anywhere". That a very similar method is used by eCRUSH is relevant to assessing the notability of DoYouDo. Innovations that turned out to be complete dead ends would be less notable. We should have an article on an innovative company that once existed independently but has now been acquired by another (e.g., Avalon Hill). JamesMLane 02:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
            • Sorry, but that's not even consistent with the facts presented in the article. A third company bought this with pretend money one based upon perhaps acquiring the already existant eCRUSH at some later date. Don't muddy the waters. - brenneman 02:52, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
              • I know it was a third company. MatchNet acquired DoYouDo, while a different company eCRUSH, is using "a very similar method", as I wrote. It goes to the notability of the general subject area. I'll confess, however, that I would've voted "Keep" even without the eCRUSH information. JamesMLane 05:28, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:49, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Not the most important company in the world, but some readers might want information about it. This article isn't some promotional rehash of the company's brochure. JamesMLane 07:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep ··gracefool |☺ 19:04, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Interesting... --Sebastian Kessel 23:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, nn. --fvw* 21:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment This user is quite active within a very small scope. I find it very hard to continue to WP:AGF with regards to what is or is not advertising here. - brenneman 23:43, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
    • That's not evidence of advertising. My style just happens to be that I focus attention on a particular subject until the project is complete. That is how I wrote four featured articles (although I think it would be tough for this subject to reach that level). Just to clarify for the record, User:205.217.105.2 and this IP are the same user. 24.54.208.177 00:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
      • I know this is not particularly germane to the AfD discussion, but you might consider registering a real user name. This will make it easier for people to communicate with you, and be less confusing all around. Also (whether it is justified or not), people tend to give less weight to comments left by anonymous users. --RoySmith 00:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
        • Oh, well, creating an account works well in the long run, but in the short run, it looks like a sockpuppet. Moreover, I keep telling myself, "I'm done with this wiki; let me just make this one last edit" but then I end up posting more stuff, yet never starting an account. So that explains the anon edits. True, I did change my mind a couple times about the notability of my own article, but that was because I was doing research and learning more information. Some new info I gathered made it look non-notable, and then further info made it look notable again. So that (partially) explains why I changed my vote. The other thing was that I changed my mind about certain comments, and also got offended at people calling my article "spam" and "just crap," and responding to my comments with what I regarded as ad hominem attacks, so I decided to remove those comments. So that explains the removed comments. I guess when people see unusual behavior, they tend to assume the worst, but in this case it was just eccentricity and ambivalence. There is a little more to it, but you probably would find those other aspects of the situation incredible. 24.54.208.177 01:37, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
    • As stated earlier, the editor's removal of earlier comments have made this discussion page hard to read, and have also downplayed his earlier zeal, which really did make this seem like an SEO/advertising push. I agree with Brenneman that with all of his antics going on here (he first protested the deletion, then came back and said that the article should be deleted , and then removed all of his comments, and is again pushing to keep or merge the article), it's beyond the regular assumption of Good Faith. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 01:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Comment on suggested merger

  • This company is part of the history of this form of matching, but, because it was acquired, it's no longer a player (at least in its own name). Therefore, the current treatment in Anonymous matching is appropriate for that article: just a few lines about the company's role. The detailed information about the history of this particular company would be clutter in that article. It should be kept as a separate article, here, so that the information isn't lost. JamesMLane 00:08, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
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