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8th Platoon

translation

I am interested in translating pages into English that currently only exist in Russian, but I don't see any information about how to go about doing this on the help pages... Any suggestions? Thanks 0 anglichanka 0 (talk) 16:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

If you look at this page, it lists a lot of great places to get started. It has articles that are partly translated or not translated at all. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 16:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

What about those articles that do exist in a language but have far more informations in another one? Take those two: http://fr.wikipedia.org/Centre_national_de_la_cinématographie (<- in French) and http://en.wikipedia.org/Centre_National_de_la_Cinématographie (<- in English) (Sorry for the full URLs: I don't know if there is any tag to comply to[REDACTED] policies on internal tags with language specific pages). Tourist.tam (talk) 08:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I lost all my edits

As a newbie, I spent an hour mostly tidying up spelling and grammar, clicked to see the explanatiko of a minor edit and lost everything. Please {} or {} before I become disillusioned, please. Segilla (talk) 05:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

If you have Firefox you could try pressing the back button repeatedly and see if it is still cached but, I am sorry, Misplaced Pages has no way of recovering your changes unless you have posted them to the website. We do implore you not to become disillusioned however, you seem to be a good contributor and it would be a shame to lose you. I am sorry your work was lost. Icewedge (talk) 06:08, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

It may console you to know that this has happened to almost everyone here. If you're making extensive changes in an article, try making them in briefer edits, perhaps taking things section by section. Another trick that sometimes works is to use the preview button before saving the edits; if the edits don't "take", you may be able to back up to the preview page (where the edits should still be present in the edit window) and try saving again. Deor (talk) 19:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

You can also select all the text in your edit box and copy it to Notepad or another text editor at intervals while editing, and before you hit the Save button. If you lose the text in the edit all you need to do is copy it back from your text editor.71.91.127.13 (talk) 04:50, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Or use an application like ClipCache for saving text and copying it back to the Windows clipboard. I use it all the time and find it invaluable when editing. – ukexpat (talk) 14:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

verifiable intellectual technology

Time has passed. I thought I would check Misplaced Pages again to see if it has discovered intellectual technology since Misplaced Pages previously denied the existence of the technology of thinking. I discovered that Misplaced Pages has still not recognized the oldest, most basic and most flawlessly verifiable technology known to humans, as with all other human INSTITUTIONS, in contrast to individual minds, explaining why human societies are still mired deep in the intellectual dark ages. Then after amusing effort I found this page, but have no idea of these words reach any Misplaced Pages human. Let me know if Misplaced Pages has acquired any personnel of sufficient thinking skill to recognize the concept of intellectual technology, and might want a Misplaced Pages page written on it. My previous attempts only encountered Misplaced Pages personnel who could not think beyond the perceptions of inherently self-limited institutions which hold no single decision-making mind to recognize the institution's errors as its own for therefore inherent correction. May you learn the most knowledge of the most concepts, most efficiently, readily available by easily learning intellectual technology upon recognizing its inherent existence. Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com 206.174.41.33 (talk) 09:27, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to the twice deleted Intellectual technology and that you are the same person operating under the unsernames User:Logicdoug and Usernameislogic. If so, no, we have not changed our minds about original research or that information in an encyclopedia must be verified by reliable sources, nor that you should not be allowed to advertise your seminar on Misplaced Pages and no, you are still not a reliable source for your own theories. Please feel free to chalk me up as one of those "institutionally self-stagnated[REDACTED] personnel, much to the amusement of more knowledgeable people in the near future... cannot tolerate presenting... intellectual technology...to humans".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

It is the same. I am the same. The research was original only thousands of years ago, and not since. The sources are flawlessly reliable, including your own answers to certain questions. Any related seminar by anyone, for the otherwise free and openly presented knowledge is not advertising compared to Misplaced Pages's advertising for Boeing Company which will not make its aircraft free to the people. And indeed a Misplaced Pages institutional person who fears to reveal his name is institutionally self-stagnated as you accurately conclude, a trait of institutional conclusions that fear accountability. As it presented itself, Misplaced Pages could have bridged the information gap between the old knowledge that keeps students of institutions believing only what advances institutional power and illusions, and new verifiable individual thinking that advances reasoning above power, the controlling technology of the future. But Misplaced Pages is still just an old institution of old institutional title holders who could not understand the meanings of some words a computer geek advanced for them. I may check back in a couple years. Your replacement may figure it out. Until then, your Misplaced Pages advertisements for the military industrial complex companies and governments serve Misplaced Pages and the war species well. May you learn the most knowledge of the most concepts, most efficiently. Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.41.33 (talk) 19:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I enjoyed the nested ad hominems among all the word salad.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:49, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I did not recognize my advertisement for hominems, but a well prepared word salad holds the knowledge of the future, not yet recognized by those who can only synthesize two word ingredients at a gourmet word meal. The source of wars and all human mistakes is in acting before all the related questions are asked and answered (adequate thinking). Is that not so? The most common complaint about thinkers, especially from institutionally titled people who perceive their titles to be substitutes for knowledge and thinking, is of the thinkers using too many words that express the results of adequate thinking. The understanding of intellectual technology, leaving titles of no utility and loathed by all institutions, facilitates efficient correction of those sustained mistakes upon which institutions are dependent. You are welcome. Enjoy the human comedy dependent upon sustaining ignorance. Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.41.33 (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no complaints about you using too many words to express yourself—just the ordering and choice of words so as to convey coherent information. You may wish to look up word salad before riffing on it. What I have seen from you is a giant advertisement for a concept you never define. Strip away the empty verbiage and what you get is the equivalent of corporate ad-speak for some invented concept called intellectual technology which is touted as a panacea for all mankind's ills that we must visit your seminar to learn the actual details of. Your arrogant posturing, doublespeak, and continuous insults offered in support is incredibly off-putting and does little to recommend your product.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Gerald W. Trueblood

Hi. Could someone change the article Gerald W. Trueblood into Joseph L. Trueblood as it is his real name. See http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/row/truebl~.htm and also the discussion page http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Gerald_W._Trueblood. Gary Dee is me (talk) 13:57, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Done, the date of death appears to be wrong as well according that link SpinningSpark 15:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the name in the lead and in Capital punishment in Indiana. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

THX. 88.207.140.227 (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Next time, you are less likely to be reverted if you fill in the edit summary to explain what you are doing. Making sure you are logged in while editing also helps, no guarantees of course. SpinningSpark 17:32, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

I guess the edit summary comment is referring to the correct edits by 66.171.207.159. It's unfortunately common that people vandalize articles by making unexplained incorrect changes. Other editors may not take time to investigate correctness of edits which at first sight look like common vandalism. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I was assuming that Gary Dee is the same person as the account has only just been created (apologies if assumption is not justified) SpinningSpark 18:55, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, assumption isnt justified. :-) I am a most common User of de:WP See http://de.wikipedia.org/Benutzer:Gary_Dee . I mostly create new articles there just as the one from Trueblood. As it is here http://de.wikipedia.org/Joseph_Trueblood . I then wanted to add the english article to it and had to find out that the Name was completely wrong. Regards. Gary Dee is me (talk) 18:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

The Rain Band

advertising removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmusicjunkie (talk • contribs) 09:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

— neuro 14:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Belzer is not related to Henry Winkler

He says so in his own words - from NY Magazine:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/10/richard_belzer_on_his_debut_no.html

Rosweed (talk) 11:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Shawn Rosvold

Thanks. I have removed the claim. Here is a standardized message for another time: Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Misplaced Pages is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Misplaced Pages community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I have also removed it from Henry Winkler's biography. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

JUST TO FINDOUT

Please,i want to use this medium to ascertain my problems with Pugetsound university.It is over two months now i sent an application letter via the school's address, therein i enclosed my SAT score,though i was made to know that you are with a copy of my score report booklet.Please , if this is not the right place for this message,i still beg endeavour to extend this message to the appropriate place. those in charge should please tell me something I look forward for your assistance.Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.14.164.73 (talk) 11:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the online 💕 that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I think your best course of action would be to contact the said university and make your inquiry there. Cheers. Chamal _work 12:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: The Rain Band (above)

Hi,

I have just written my first article on the Rain Band (above). Have I put it in the wrong place?! Please can you help me move it to the correct place so it can be seen? Many thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmusicjunkie (talk • contribs) 13:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Please see Your first article.

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Especially take a look at Notability (bands). Please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: . Do NOT sign in articles. SpinningSpark 09:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Amygdala

Dear Doctors My daughter is suffering by reduced volume of right amygdala. we took medicine ( zen retard 500mg per day )for the past two and half years. even now the mri shows no improvement in volume. we dont know what is next. can any body give me a suggestion. i am at India yours lovingly Panneerselva (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear about your daughter. However, Misplaced Pages cannot offer medical advice. Best of luck. TN‑X-Man 18:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Christy Mathewson

Hello all

I'm fairly new to Wiki and have been pleased to make several contributions to pages. I try to be accurate and adhere to the rules. It is disappointing therefore to discover when one's contribution has apparently been deleted for no apparent reason

I have noticed that an addition I made to baseball legend Christy Mathewson has disappeared. I added to what was already a small section called 'Christy in popular culture' but all of that small sub-section has gone i.e. not just my addition to it

It used to say: He is the subject of an Off-Broadway one-man show starring Eddie Frierson. He is the subject of Eric Rolfe Greenberg's baseball novel "The Celebrant". Mathewson is mentioned in the poem "Lineup for Yesterday" by Ogden Nash:

Lineup for Yesterday M is for Matty, Who carried a charm In the form of an extra brain in his arm. — Ogden Nash, Sport magazine (January 1949)

then to it, I added as follows:

Singer/pianist/songwriter Dave Frishberg's song "Matty" is a sentimental tribute to Christy. The song may be found on Frishberg's albums, Quality Time, Let's Eat Home plus a live version on Retromania: At the Jazz Bakery, which contains other baseball related songs). Frishberg's liner notes and occasional commentary to his audience help explain the background to many of these songs.

I'd appreciate some guidance and feedback as to when and why these changes were made. I guess in future I should mark 'watch this page' and I can react to such situations as they occur?

Colinkilgour (talk) 20:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

"In popular culture" sections are disliked by a number of editors, since they tend to accumulate nonnotable trivia. That one was removed (except for the bit about the Ogden Nash poem) in this edit by User:LAAFan. Why don't you try discussing the matter with him on his talk page? Deor (talk) 21:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll certainly do that 84.68.227.114 (talk) 23:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

wrongly blocked, why? please unblock me

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:149.254.200.213

I was wrongly blocked from using wiki by admin black kite for unexplained reasons. please reinstate my IP full ability to use the site. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.200.213 (talk) 21:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page. —Snigbrook 21:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

USS Salt Lake City CA-25 : The Real "Swayback Maru"

The USS Saint Paul was used as a "stand-in" for the USS Salt Lake City when the motion picture "In Harm's Way" was filmed in the sixties (and released April 6, 1965).ref.[REDACTED] "In Harm's Way"

The USS Salt Lake City, the real "Swayback Maru", was sunk in a training exercise in 1948 after being contaminated in the Bikini Atoll atom bomb tests, and therefore not available.

The author of the book "Harm's Way", James Bassett, served on board the USS Salt Lake City during the battle of Cape Esperance. He loosely based his novel on his experiences while on board "Ol' Swayback".

The nickname "Ol' Swayback" was given to the Salt Lake City by her crew for several reasons: She and the USS Pensacola were the only two flush-deck cruisers in the USN; The Salt Lake City was the oldest heavy cruiser in the fleet; In profile the high clipper-bow and the low shear gave a "sway-back" appearance; The Salt Lake City was called "Ol Swayback" in the thirties by my father and his shipmates, and they were just using the nickname they had heard from the older sailors!

The nickname "Swayback Maru" was fastened to the USS Salt Lake City by the Chicago Dailey News reporter Robert J. Casey while on board in 1942. The Navy censors would not allow his dispatches to reveal the name of the ship he was on, so he called it the "Swayback Maru".ref:inside cover book "Torpedo Junction"; Deck Log USS Salt Lake City Jan. 10, 1942

The USS San Francisco was a very fine ship, as attested to by all the awards and accolades that came her way (the second highest decorated ship in the fleet!) but she was NOT the "Swayback Maru"! So how come you continue to ascribe that nickname to the San Francisco?Uncle Ripper (talk) 01:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Our article on USS San Francisco (CA-38) does not refer to it as the Swayback Maru. Our article on USS Salt Lake City (CA-25), on the other hand, does give this as a nickname. You appear to agree this is correct. In any case, this is not the right forum to discuss the content of articles - this page is primarily to help new editors find their way around. The right place to discuss this is on the talk pages of the articles concerned, that is Talk:USS San Francisco (CA-38) and Talk:USS Salt Lake City (CA-25). You are advised to find reliable sources that verify the facts before making any changes, but you can then be bold and edit the articles yourself if you wish. SpinningSpark 01:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Questions about "original research" and "references"

This is something that has been bothering me for some time, but it was after running into an edit-war that had happened over something in an article that made me decide to try and get answers. First, why is original research wrong? I know the obvious answer-you only want factual information. But, isn't a lot of information only available through original research? Whole plot descriptions for movies and games can only really be obtained through watching/playing, and even if stuff is posted on a site, can't it be argued that that is just someone's original research? And about references, I've seen articles where a person actually posted a reference, but edit was reverted because another editor refused to accept it. They claimed the information was a lie, even though there was nothing to suggest that, and there were numerous other articles which said the same thing. One other thing, a bit of a side note, is it wrong to input fan-reaction to something? I've seen movies and games have sections for "Reception" and "Reaction", but adding cited information regarding fans' reaction to removed content and glitches in a game has caused quite an uproar. This addition is not biased or spam, but is an honest, cited statement about the reception to these things among fans, and I don't see why it should create so much fighting. I've added another reference, but who knows what will happen. Just wanted to get some insight. This seemed like the best place. TheScrappedPrincess (talk) 02:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

This seemed like the best place.

Yeah, if you were new. But you're SyberiaWinx, aka 24.3.180.166 aka 76.120.173.40 aka Fragments of Jade aka Weisheit-A Sane Kind of Madness aka TwilightRukia aka WhenTheyCry aka IceQueenAvril aka 76.120.153.223 aka MiyakoKajiro aka Lamiroir, and you're yet again evading your block for sockpuppetry. Erigu (talk) 02:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

What? TheScrappedPrincess (talk) 02:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

So, can anyone answer my questions? Or did I post this in the wrong place? TheScrappedPrincess (talk) 03:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

contributing a new word

How do I contribute a new word? Lee Byberg (talk) 07:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Welcome. This is Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Are you perhaps looking to edit Wiktionary, the online dictionary? If you want to create a new article, here's a standard message:

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Zain Ebrahim (talk) 07:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

join your call centre

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 124.253.235.89 (talk) 14:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Misplaced Pages itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN‑X-Man 14:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed User

Hi there,

I'm trying to upload images to one of my articles but it says this can't be done unless I'm an autoconfirmed user. I can find all sorts of information on WHAT an Autoconfirmed user is, I just can't find anything that mentions HOW I can become one.

Draggor (talk) 16:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

You must have an account for four days and make at least ten edits. Once those conditions are met, you'll automatically be an autoconfirmed user. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 16:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Pages

I thought redlinks were all deleted pages, then I read WP:RED and I gather some of them are suggestions for pages to be created, which is an altogether different thing. But the deleted pages log seems to only go a little way back. So is there a way to determine definitely whether there was a page with a particular title? And is there a good way to see what a deleted page looked like so as to make the new one better if I decide to try? Yngvadottir (talk) 20:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, let's see. If you look at this redlink (David reaves), you'll see a note that says it was previously deleted. That's the quickest way to determine whether a page has existed previously, by simply trying to create the page and seeing if a notification comes up. As for your second question, only admins can view deleted pages. You can request that an admin post the deleted version of an article to your user space so you can work it to get it ready for the mainspace. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 21:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) Redlinks are, functionally, nothing more than the way titles display when they are linked to and no articles or redirect currently exists at that exact title. We encourage redlinks to be made for subjects that seem to warrant an article, and discourage making redlinks to subjects that probably should not have an article. The deletion log goes back to December 23, 2004 (earliest page available), which covers much of the period when most of our content was created. There is no way that I know of to determine whether a page existed prior to this date. There are deletion debate archives, which go quite a way further back, but the number of articles listed is a tiny number in comparison to all deletions including speedy deletion. Note also that the deletion log search is case sensitive. You should try variations of spelling, capitalization and punctuation where applicable before giving up that a page on a particular topic never existed. Only administrators and higher level user groups have the ability to see the content of deleted pages. If you have located a page that was deleted, an administrator may provide the deleted content to you if you request it. This is unlikely to be done, however, if the page contained a copyright violation or personal details. You could ask for that here, at deletion review or at the help desk. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Some old deletions can be found at Misplaced Pages:Deletion log and Misplaced Pages:Old deletion log. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

How to edit a semi-protected page?

I'd like to add an inter-language link to the Japanese corresponding page to Hyperhidrosis. But, I can not edit the page because it is semi-protected. My account has been activated for more than 4 days, so I think that I can do it. What's the problem? Nikm (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

To be autoconfirmed, and thus able to edit semi-protected pages, your acount needs to be over four days old and you have to have made ten or more edits. You are on edit 2 so far. Go make a few spelling corrections and you'll be able to edit the page. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

You can also use {{Editsemiprotected}} to request an edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help! Nikm (talk) 23:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Premature digital activation

Can I enter a phrase in Misplaced Pages? The above phrase refers to when sending emails, you press the send button befor e chacking the adressees, reviewing the wording, all of which can be a very regretful move if you have included the adress of someone you are discussing or you have included detrimental information in your email or you have forgot to delete the previous emails in the case of emails forwaded to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.46.233.4 (talk) 00:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages generally frowns upon neologisms. There is more information at WP:NEO if you would like to see more information on the topic. Summarized:

Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary, and so articles simply attempting to define a neologism are inappropriate.
Articles on neologisms frequently attempt to track the emergence and use of the term as observed in communities of interest or on the internet—without attributing these claims to reliable secondary sources. If the article is not verifiable (see Reliable sources for neologisms, below) then it constitutes analysis, synthesis and original research and consequently cannot be accepted by Misplaced Pages. This is true even though there may be many examples of the term in use.

If you feel that the phrase is encyclopedic and can provide 'reliable' secondary sources then the phrase may be added. In this case I would recommend against it however. You might be able to try Wiktionary (the dictionary version of wikipedia) however, I am not up to date on their policies on neologisms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bvlax2005 (talk • contribs)

If you have reliable sources then you might edit an existing article like Recall (e-mail). PrimeHunter (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

How to do I make phrases in my article searchable?

I recently created an article for "Workforce Innovations Conference". When I search for the article just using the phrase "Workforce Innovations" my article does not come up. There is a list of other articles with that include the phrase in their titles or articles, but the "Workforce Innovations Conference" article is not in the list. Is there something I can edit on the page that makes the phrase searchable and not just the full title of the article?

Cjkdang (talk) 14:54, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Workforce Innovations Conference was created 2 days ago and has not been indexed by Misplaced Pages's search function yet. This will happen automatically at some time and users have no influence over it - except possibly that such things might happen faster on average if you donate to the Wikimedia Foundation who runs the servers! If an exact page title is entered in the search box then the software will take the user directly to the page even though search hasn't indexed it yet. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Creating a reference for a place. Can my experience be a reference?

I am writing an article, very short and fully fact based, about a language school I attended in Italy. The only true source I can find (in English) is the website of the school. Is this a sufficient reference? How could I cite my personal experience. In other words I went there, so I can confirm it's location and course offered etc. IdeaV2008 (talk) 14:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

You cannot use your personal experience. Misplaced Pages:Verifiabilty requries that information in Misplaced Pages has previously been published by a reliable source. Non-English sources are allowed (though English is usually preferred when available). See Category:Language icon templates. The article subject should satisfy Misplaced Pages:Notability or Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies). Referencing the school itself is insufficient for this and an article may be deleted without other sources to show notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Confused about images and copyright/fair use

I'm confused about whether it would be fair use to upload the following,apparently freely available, images to Misplaced Pages for use in the Disease Eradication article (after formatting the former to JPEG, of course):

~~http://www.cartercenter.org/resources/pdfs/health/guinea_worm/gw_cases_07.pdf~~

~~http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/05.whostat2005graph_polio.jpg~~

Alternatively, would it be better to download the freely available data on reported Guinea Worm and Polio cases to draw my own graphs with? In addition to legal issues, there'd be an obvious advantage to this in that it would allow a more up-to-date Polio graph than the one linked above.

~~Procrastinator supreme (talk) 15:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)~~

It may be better to ask at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you - I've moved it to there. Procrastinator supreme (talk) 13:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Common accnt for all wikis?

How to access all wikis from my present account? Can't find the link out here. (Ekabhishek (talk) 03:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC))

You need to go to Special:MergeAccount, which is linked from your Special:Preferences page next to the heading "Global account status". For the details about global accounts, see m:Help:Unified login. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Adding a band

Hi, I was wondering how I'd go about adding a page for my band, The Holocene, to wikipedia's listings? Theholocene (talk) 15:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

The first thing to do is to look at this guideline. It will let you know if your band is notable enough for an article. Next, you may want to take a look at this guide about conflict of interest. Basically, it says that you should not create/edit articles that you are closely related to or involved in. Once you gotten past all of that, click on this red link (The Holocene (band)) to start creating your page. However, please be aware that articles that do not show notability may be deleted. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 16:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, your name leaves me to believe that you're part of the band. You should probably read our conflict of interest policy. Paragon 20:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding online image copyrights and adding an author's pic

Hi,

I have two questions. I started out wanting to add an author's pic to a page, http://en.wikipedia.org/Tad_Waddington,and have since discovered that this is not really possible for a new user like myself...and while I totally understand why, I was wondering if someone could help me with this. That's my first question.

Second, there is a picture of the author up on his book page at http://lastingcontribution.com/aboutus.aspx but as I was reading through the image copyright page here on wikipedia, it was unclear whether a pic of an author that was up on his homepage would be protected by copyright. Is it? Would I need to get the author's permission?

 Sarah Kimmel (talk) 20:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

In order to upload a file you must be autoconfirmed, which requires 20 edits and waiting 2 weeks.
WP:IMAGEHELP should be able to answer your questions. 99% of the time, yes, it is copyrighted. You must get permission not just for putting it in Misplaced Pages, but releasing it under the GFDL. Paragon 20:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Autoconfirmation only requires 10 edits and 4 days. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

WTE (talk) 01:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi how to you create references please

I have just joined and the editing functions are not easy. I have created a reference by clicking the reference button but nothing appears. Thanks for any help. User:Americanlinguist.

When using <ref></ref>, the article requires either <references/> or {{Reflist}} to be somewhere in the article, usually in the "References" section, so the references can be seen. See this edit. --Silver Edge (talk) 07:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

At the risk of telling you the obvious, you must also write your reference between the ref tags like so;<ref>A. N. Other, An interesting book, page 6, A Publishing Co. Inc.</ref>. This is inserted in the article right after the fact or passage being referenced. SpinningSpark 18:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I can't google search article I added to Misplaced Pages?

I have created an account with Wikipidia then added an article, however, when I search that article on google it doesn't show; when I search the article on Misplaced Pages it does show? please explain what I need to do in order to make my article searchable. Montaser Eljaafari . Al-A'mara (talk) 18:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The article has not been picked up yet by Google's web crawlers. From what I understand, Google crawls the web several times a day, so your article should appear shortly. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 18:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I created the article couple of weeks ago? The article name is Nazem Al Jaafari if that helps.

. Al-A'mara (talk) 19:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't see anything on Misplaced Pages's side that would prevent that article's being indexed by google. There's nothing we can really do about it. Someguy1221 (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

It was created 9 days ago. It varies how long it takes Google to index new articles but it should eventually happen. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Google's now indexed it - it's coming up for me. However, 9 days is an unusually long time for Google these days. Odd.--A bit iffy (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

It also depends on how long it takes to find the page, ie by crawling to it. — neuro 23:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kurma Dasa, Australian Vegetarian Gourmet Guru

(biography removed) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.91.82.94 (talk) 22:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

This page is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Misplaced Pages. It's not a place for new articles so I have removed your article which can be seen at . As an unregistered user you can submit an article to Misplaced Pages:Articles for creation. See also Misplaced Pages:Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Searches

The search box is on the upper left hand, under navigation.

24.2.220.196 (talk) 19:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Isabella

Yes, in many skins including the one seen by unregistered users like you. Do you have a question? This is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Misplaced Pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

anonymous AFC by non-registered user -- where's it "go" after saving?

I thought an Article for Creation could be written and submitted by a non-registered user, and that it would be reviewed eventually. Last week I submitted an article, but it seems to have disappeared -- as though when I saved it, it didn't get saved anywhere.

Where would a proposed AFC by a non-registered, anonymous user "go" after the save button is clicked? Is the likeliest explanation that I didn't click the save button but made some sort of mistake?

4.182.234.14 (talk) 01:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)non-registered anonymous user

You have not submitted anything to anywhere from the IP address you are using right now, but maybe it was a different IP last week. What was you article called? SpinningSpark 01:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

It was called "Andrea Juno". I submitted it (I thought) about ten or eleven days ago. I've checked AFCs, etc. But more generally: where would a proposed article "go" after being submitted anonymously by a non-registered user? 4.182.234.14 (talk) 01:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)non-registered anonymous user

If it was saved correctly then you can try looking for it in Category:Completed Afc requests or Category:Pending Afc requests. I cannot find it there or elsewhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

It isn't at Special:Prefixindex/Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Submissions/Andrea either, and it doesn't show up in a search across namespaces for "Andrea Juno". I cannot think of more places to look so it seems possible that it was not saved. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

If you were using Articles for Creation correctly then you should have typed the article at (where nothing has been saved). Does that page look familiar? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Mohammed kaaba.jpg

Removed duplicate of question asked and answered at Misplaced Pages:Help desk#Mohammed kaaba.jpg. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 10:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

same name, different person

Hello, I wrote a very short article about mystery writer Cara Black. I feel lazy about filling in all the details and I want to put it online so that other people can help. The article's currently at User:LovesMacs/subpage. My question is this: there's already a Cara Black article, about a tennis player. What do I do, because they have the same name. Thank you. LovesMacs (talk) 14:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

You can create the article at Cara Black (author). Then place a hatnote at the top of the existing Cara Black article in a form not unlike this: {{for|the mystery writer|Cara Black (author)}} or {{otheruses4|the tennis player named Cara Black|the mystery writer|Cara Black (author)}} which will format, respectively, like this:

For the mystery writer, see Cara Black (author).

This page is about the tennis player named Cara Black. For the mystery writer, see Cara Black (author).

I suggest this because it appears to me after doing a few searches that the tennis player is the primary topic (significantly more commonly searched for than the mystery writer). However, there is another procedure where the existing article would be moved to a title like Car Black (tennis player), and the existing title would then be made into a disambiguation page which would list both pages.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict, and deleting most of my now redundant reply) However, I think you should do a bit more work on the article before moving it to mainspace. In particular it needs some references, as it stands it may get deleted if you try and post it. There is no reason other editors cannot work on it while it is in your userspace. If you know editors who would help, then just drop them a note on their talk pages. SpinningSpark 15:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I wrote the article primarily because I would like to write articles about some of her books. It seems to me that when a book has an article on Misplaced Pages, the author generally has an article too. Maybe I"m wrong. The books seem to have critical acclaim, based on the back cover blurbs, and I like them. I'm not in any rush to flesh out the Cara Black article, and I will very likely end up writing something else entirely. Thank you, both of you. LovesMacs (talk) 15:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

The list of works in your article are all redlinks, implying that her books are not on Misplaced Pages. So if the books do have articles, you have not named them correctly. If there has been critical acclaim, it will really not be hard to find at least one independant review that you can cite to prove it. SpinningSpark 15:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Something like this good enough? LovesMacs (talk) 15:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added details of her life using a reliable source. Spinningspark and I are on the same wavelength. While he was edit conflicting with me over disambiguation, I just edit conflicted with him, where I was going to tell you the article was very much in danger of deletion, and then tell you about the changes I made to gird against that likelihood. By the way, now that you are not the only author of the content, you must move the article to whatever new name you are going to choose, rather than cut and pasting it. This is required by the GFDL (the license we use for our content). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Please see this New York Times search for easily used and reliable sources reviewing a few of her novels. If you want to see examples of NYT articles cited on Misplaced Pages to get an idea of the formatting you can use for the citation, see (in "edit mode" of course), Jimmy Moore.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for the helpful answers. LovesMacs (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

appropriate edits

Upon reading the definition of assassination, I found an example which describes warfare and not assassination. Is it appropriate to edit such an error? Ejkrame (talk) 15:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

It is certainly acceptable for anyone to correct mistakes anywhere in Misplaced Pages. However, if you are talking about Assassination#As military doctrine I personally do not see much wrong with the article. If you are going to do something that might be controversial, it is best to discuss it with other editors on the article's talk page first. SpinningSpark 15:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Editing Navigational Templates

I've just edited a navigational template and none of the articles that it had been in have been edited. I can select to edit the articles individually and save without making changes, and then the new template shows up fine, but I'd rather not search for every article that has that template so that I can do that. Is there something wrong or am I missing some faster method to update a template?

Thanks! Drilnoth (talk) 20:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

It generally takes a while for template changes to propagate through articles. It is possible to use a null edit to speed things up, or sometimes just purging a page's cache works. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:48, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks... so I shouldn't need to go through the articles, right? It just needs a little time? -Drilnoth (talk) 22:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Bleeding abnormally

I am a 31 year old female who is very concerned about a health condition. Here for the past few months after I have had my menustral cylce(which is at the beginning of the month), I have had some irregular bleeding, but not much, it is more of a spot bleeding towards the end of the month and here this past month I have had an severe itch and now it seems controlled. What could this be?70.251.119.99 (talk) 05:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Please ask your doctor. Misplaced Pages does not dispense medical advice under any circumstances; see our medical disclaimer. GlassCobra 05:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Upload A Photo

I would like to upload a photo onto the Bradford Keeney page, but do not know how to do it. How do I go about doing this? Please notify me on my talk page. Thanks. TSDPHDTSDPHD (talk) 07:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Go to the WP:UPLOAD page and read the instructions there and you should be cool. Monster Under Your Bed 10:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

You must also be autoconfirmed. — neuro 23:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

From Nehha.thakur

i had read a few days back dat[REDACTED] pays people for contributin relevant articles.. i wanted more information about it.. please do help me..

thank you

nehha  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nehha.thakur (talk • contribs) 09:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages does not pay anyone for their contributions to the encyclopedia. All editing is done by volunteers, normal human beings like you and me from all around the world. Monster Under Your Bed 10:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The closest thing is WP:Bounty board, but all the money is donated to Wikimedia Foundation. --Silver Edge (talk) 10:41, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Notability

What exactly makes someone notable? Would a curator of a semi-well known museum (lets say: Fries museum, Fryslan, northern Netherlands) be notable enough to be honoured with an article (if well referenced)? J.B. (talk) 11:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The relevant details are at WP:Note for the general-purpose stuff, and at WP:Bio for information about people. However, more generally the use of the term "notable" in this case doesn't correspond exactly to how you would expect it to be used outside of Misplaced Pages. Here, it refers to the presence or reliable secondary sources. So the simple version is that a curator would be notable if he or she was covered in some detail in various sources, such as newspapers, book, and academic papers (we normally speak of "multiple", which tends to mean two or more). There are a couple of reasons for this, but onw of the main ones is verifiability: when talking about someone it is important that we only write material which can be verified by reliable sources, so if those sources don't exist, we can't write about them. :) - Bilby (talk) 11:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. This will do. You see, I just joined in today and as of now I have decided to become a vandal fighter to prevent mindless fools to vandalise this beautiful website. I just recently removed a couple of small mistakes from articles and only just 10 minutes ago or so, I nominated an article on a guy named Sheikh Mohiuddin Ahmed for deletion: I suspect this is either:

non-notable
self-promotion
or a hoax, which is most likely for googling the guy gave no constructive results whatsoever in any language.

J.B. (talk) 11:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your dedication, and keep up the good work! Welcome. :) GlassCobra 13:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

DRIIEM

<spam removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.122.146 (talk) 11:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

This page is for question regarding using Misplaced Pages. If you have such a question, please ask it here. Chamal 12:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I have launched an article via wikepedia. as I have created an account and password and I have placed the article. How can I find out that my article has been saved to the readers?

Hello, you can do this by going to the page you edited. If you are talking about this, then you have indeed. — neuro 23:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

That text has a long way to go before it could be called an article. I suggest that the original poster takes a look at the existing Islam article. – ukexpat (talk) 00:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

How do I start an entry on someone?GrandTorino (talk) 20:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

How do I start an entry on a notable person? GrandTorino (talk) 20:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I am confused about how to post a caution to a vandal.

Hello. An anonymous user is defacing a wiki page under ip 64.247.68.54 and ip 79.70.221.138. I tried to post a caution on his "talk page," but I cannot make the post correctly. Please help.

His vandalism at Mandrake of Oxford, a British publishing house in Oxford, England that specializes in occult books. He seems to be motivated by a religious intolerance. Thanks!

--Tsmollet (talk) 00:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:VANDAL#Warnings can help you with this. There is also a list of most used warning templates there. Cheers. Chamal 00:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I always use: this page. Please rememeber to use warning templates in a responsible manner, cheers Spitfire 08:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the help! --Tsmollet (talk) 21:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

We would like our 501 c3 charity Amyloidosis Support Groups www.amyloidosissupport.com added to Misplaced Pages.

How do we do that? Muriel Finkel, President 24.165.103.113 (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Spelling rules

On the main page I read: "This Misplaced Pages is written in English". Should articles be written in US English or British English or is there no special rule? --Firithfenion (talk) 17:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

There is a guide to your question here. If I remember correctly, it's not really important, as long as one or the other is used consistently in an article. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 17:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Citations of microfilm

I would like to edit/update a page using past articles of my town's newspaper. I want to make sure citations won't be a problem though, because the only place where these newspaper articles are located is physically at the local library on microfilm, meaning I cannot create a link in my citations. Is this okay? I am relatively new to Misplaced Pages and have looked through the citation guidelines but feel overwhelmed. I really want to do a thorough job and have solid citations. Thank you! Skaf3 (talk) 18:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

That's a very good question. I cannot find a simple answer, unfortunately. I would think (and if anyone has other suggestions, that would be great) that you would cite the microfilm as if it were an actual newspaper. Be sure to note that you accessed the information through microfilm instead of the actual paper. I hope this helps and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 18:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

There is no requirement that a reference be available online - only that it be reasonably possible for an editor to obtain a copy. Having to visit a library is not unreasonable, and neither is having to visit one particular library for facts that are unlikely to appear anywhere else (such as esoteric history of the town). The only point of caution is to not use references that are this difficult to get copies of for something very controversial (use your own judgement). Hope that helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

The topic actually is somewhat controversial in our local area (or has been in the past)--its about a funding program. A lot of what is posted is about the controversy and the negative aspects of the fund, but I'd like to round out the entry with the good things the fund has allowed the community to do. Still sound like I can use the microfilm? Thanks for all your help. Skaf3 (talk) 19:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Dont understand why the VESUVIO ENTERTAINMENT CORPORATION page keeps being removed by you guys...........

I spent all yesterday and last night and this morning editing the page and checking the links, adding the VESUVIO ENTERTAINMENT CORPORATION logo, and verifying all the information of the page, and after all that it says that its irrelevant and seems to promote VESUVIO ENTERTAINMENT CORPORATION when it does no such thing. It is providing facts and an encyclopedic description of who and what VESUVIO ENTERTAINMENT CORPORATION is. Please help me with this, and please explain what I must do to meet your standards..... thank you very much........ Digirammy (talk) 19:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

It may not have been intended to be promotional but that's how it read. Please read WP:YFA, WP:CORP, WP:Spam and WP:COI. – ukexpat (talk) 21:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Uploading a picture, without having the required 10 edits.

Hi, someone has created a Misplaced Pages page for my mom, Penelope Schott. I'd like to contribute a photo of her to it (one she's approved) but according to the help pages I need to have contributed 10 edits to Misplaced Pages and I haven't. I also plain can't find the toolbar recommended or it doesn't appear because I'm not qualified. Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks, Rebecca

Beckynot 20:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

You need to be autoconfirmed to upload pictures in Misplaced Pages. However, you can upload free images at Commons without this. All you need is an account there. Chamal 00:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Just do some minor cleanup, and you'll get it quickly enough. And yes, Commons does indeed not have an autoconfirmation feature. — neuro 14:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

alexander haig bio

please remove the word "murderer" as the link cannot be accessed to explain the use of the word.Sacita (talk) 21:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

The inserting of the word 'murderer' seems to be vandalism. It has been removed now. Chamal 00:22, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Neutralizing a Vodka Page

Greetings,

After much research on this website on how to start a page and contacting the correct "Wikigroup" with regards to a page about a Vodka, I have come up empty or rather confused.

My first attempt at creating a page for Americana Luxury Vodka was deleted and with good reason (for which, I apologize).

As a new user of Misplaced Pages, I did not realize my language was quite biased in the positive and did not take a neutral approach.

As an employee of the Marketing/Promotions sector for the Americana Spirits Company (and yes, I know this is not a site to be selling a product) I realized that there is a list of vodkas and many vodkas do, in fact, have their own page.

My attempt to start one for Americana was overly advertisement, but now I wish to get my "user page" reviewed and see where I need to make deletions, additions, etc....so it is appropriate, like the other vodka entries.

I appreciate your time and understanding and apologize for entering an entry without reading ALL of the fine print.

74.68.12.33 (talk) 03:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

If you want your userpage to be reviewed, first you'll have to tell us your username. I cannot stress enough the need for you to read Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest, Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view and Misplaced Pages:Spam. If however you have already read these then I, for one, would be intrested in reviewing your work, But please be aware that in accordence with our policies, the page you refer to: "Americana Luxury Vodka" may never earn intself a place in the "mainspace", thankyou for coming here instead of simply recreating the page. Spitfire 07:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Help

Wow...was I wrong to think this[REDACTED] thing would be user friendly and easy. I have a template for a sidebar that I want an article I'm writing. The sidebar centers the headings though and I want them on the left. I've been searching on this site for 30 minutes to find some answer and I can't find anything in this maze of website. Can someone help me please?

I did find an example of a sidebar that I want: yellowstone national park". But when I plug that sidebar into mine, my information disappears. I just want my headings on the left and my content on the right.

Any ideas? John Thompson05 (talk) 10:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I looked at your contributions and assume you are referring to Bodrog Monastery. It appears you are using a sidebar, but the better option may be a infobox. An infobox aligns the information to the left like you asked and there is already one designed for monasteries. You can see the template itself at {{Infobox monastery}} and see it in action at Glendalough. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 13:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks the for info. I'm actually happy with the one for the monastery but I'm looking to make a post for a national park. I wasn't able to take Yellowstones and create my own (must be locked). Where do I go to see if there is a template for parks? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Thompson05 (talk • contribs) 12:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Whenever you come to an article you can't edit because the edit tab is missing, there is always a "view source" tab in its place, which you can use to examine and copy code. The infobox in Yellowstone National Park is Template:Infobox Protected area. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 12:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to keep harping on this--this doesn't work either. This is the layout I want, but I don't want to be limited to only these headings and this template is locked to having only these. Is there a generic template that I can use? ThanksJohn Thompson05 (talk) 07:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

What does that mean: Template loop detected ???

Hi. I'm a new user. I have contributed a small new article 'Tagtabit' (eng: Bedbug) in www.tk.wikipedia.org. Then I added taxobox and instead of taxobox the following message appeared 'Template loop detected: Template:Taxobox' instead of the box itself. Actually it didn't work. Then I tried that template in English wiki at an article as a preview and the table immediately appeared at that article. Shortly my template didn't work in tk.wikipedia.org but worked immediately in en.wikipedia.org. You may visit article 'Tagtabit' in tk.wikipedia.org and look at the situation. I think sth is wrong. Would you please explain me this issue!!! I'm lost!!! kemine 12:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garliyev (talk • contribs)

The same message appears on the template page itself. The template is broken at the Turkmen site. Instead of entering the actual template code, someone has just inserted an instance of a call to the template, so the template is a call to itself, and does not really exist. Since the page is not protected at Turkmen WP, you could try copying the whole template from English to Turkmen and see what happens. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!! I did as you had written. It didn't work again. May be TK WP has problems. I don't understand why it happens. Who is in charge of this TK WP? To whom I need to write in TK WP. Also TK WP doesn't have the button Move etc. May be there are not any administrators or whoever in charge? the main page has not been fully translated into TK and there are lots of improper translations there. I and others can offer help but I don't know to whom i should write. I am really upset that anyone cannot improve or contribute to TK WP properly (or i don't know how to). it's really embarrasing for me. I would appreciate you if you write sth in detail if you have enough time.--kemine 13:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Garliyev (talk • contribs)

I don't know what's going on over there regarding their editing history page. When I looked yesterday, it showed the template as being created in March, I think. Today it shows it being created on November 1 (today) with no mention of it existing before. The template looks the same as before; the source begins with "taxobox" while English WP's source begins with "infobox biota" and is much larger. Anyway, "infobox biota" does not exist at TK WP, so it isn't going to work. The whole biota template system has not been implemented there, and I'm not surprised; it's more of an experiment than anything at English WP, and I don't believe it's approved by the administration; furthermore it's not really needed for writing articles. Can you not create the article without it? (I'm sure the answer is yes.) --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 01:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

John Blaze

I'm trying to create a page for a radio personality "The Entertainer" John Blaze!!! but it's stating that the name is on a blacklist. I need help with setting up this page. John Blaze is a Radio Personality. Can I get some assistance with this? I created a[REDACTED] account and put my email on there; can you assist me? Thank You Blaze969 (talk) 19:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "blacklist" but if your page was deleted, it may have had problems with conflict of interest or notability. Please click on the "blue" text to see guideline articles about these concerns. I note that your user name contains "Blaze", which could suggest you are trying to create an article about yourself, and that is against policy (as explained in the first guideline above). Also, please don't post your email address on Misplaced Pages; this also against policy, and it's for your safety. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

re. my bio notability

I am curious to learn whether I fit the notability critera for a brief bio, which I'd like to prepare as I frequently receive requests for this sort of biographical information from many sources? Thanks for your feedback on this.

Born 6/28/1930, educated in Copenhagen, Denmark, McGill University (BA, 1951) and New York University (Ph.D. 1958) where I have been a full professor since 1972 and the former director of NYU's Research Center for Mental Health.

The receipient of grants from the Ford Foundation, the US Airforce and the National Institute of Mental Health, I have more than 60 scientific publications and books to my name, evolving around the areas of personality, sensory deprivation, LDS, stress and coping.

For more than 25 years I was the editor-in-chief of the interdisciplinary journal, Psychoanalysis and Contemporary Thought

I am also known for my work as author and lecturer on the rescue of the Danish Jews during the Holocaust and have served as consultant to the US Holocaust Museum in Washington and the Jewish Hewritage Museum in New York.

Among my awards is the "Order of Dannebog", bestoweved by Queen Margarethe of Denmark in 1993.

Listed in Who Is Who in America...

Lg4 (talk) 20:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

You can find out about Misplaced Pages's notability requirements by clicking here: WP:N. If you do feel an article should be created for you, you can request someone to write it here: WP:REQ. You should not create or edit an article about yourself because of WP's rules about conflict of interest. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

PS, if you want to post your biographical info somewhere on the internet because you get requests for it, Facebook or MySpace are more appropriate. They don't have all these notability and COI rules at those sites. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Also read WP:BIO. For other bio sites see http://wikibios.com – ukexpat (talk) 01:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Creating a new article

How can I create a new article? I tried following your instructions but they are WAY too complicated. I have a PhD and am capable of following clear directions. But I have no time to follow all these extraordinarily complicated, multi-step, technically incomprehensible directions. Can someone please supply very simple, easy-to-follow directions?? Donteatbacon (talk) 05:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. Simply go to http://en.wikipedia.org/Article Name Here and then click edit. Replace "Article Name Here" with the name of the article that you want to create. If the article has already been created the link will take you to that article. Add you content once you have clicked edit and then click save and your article will be created. I hope this helps. ·Add§hore· /_Cont 07:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Addshore's link works. Another easy method is to simply search for the article you wish to create. If it doesn't exist, it will notify you. You can then click on the link that says "create this page". Make sure to familiarize yourself with notability criteria and our need for reliable sources. Wisdom89 _{(_T / )} 08:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

But before you do any of that please read WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 14:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Sidebar confusing me

I'm writing an entry for a national park. I was given a national park sidebar but don't like all the headings and have other information I'd like to put in my sidebar-which that template forbids me from doing. I just want a generic template that aligns my headers on the left and my content on the right. I've searched this site for days and I can't find it- please help (and make Misplaced Pages less gumbled and confusing to find anything!)John Thompson05 (talk) 08:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You are probably looking for a table with two columns (or maybe just one?). See Help:Table for instructions and examples A box is the simplest form of table (with just one cell). This will be easy if you have worked with code that builds tables in HTML; otherwise it may be a little overwhelming to get started. My suggestion: create a sandbox page for yourself, copy over the coding for the simplest example, check how it looks, then add any other features you want to use. If you need help, post here again, and point to your sandbox page; someone may help with whatever problem you're hitting. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Help with Adriana Lima page

Hi, I've been a fan of Adriana Lima for about 10 years, and my knowledge of her is pretty extent, so I am able to correct her things without really looking them up when they are incorrect...but will still add references. Well this one member. has been deleting what I'm placing about Adriana Lima's heritage, in a video she states she is African, Native South American, and Swiss this was an interview with her taken in late 2001. Now, there have been several videos from fashion insiders such as Videofashion, World Fashion TV that have done videos with overlays stating she also has Portuguese, French, and Caribbean. I've included a video which that is said, and two references..one being a link to an interview with a professional magazine where they lead into her interview by describing those heritages. The company she is also contracted under says she has those heritages as well as the ones she has said in her interview...I feel these are all reputable sources for correct information and he continues to delete the information with the references. Please tell me if this is right or wrong...I have a feeling 3-4 references stating something as well as a company that has worked with her for 10 years would know such things, but he says not so...what do I do...am I right or wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk • contribs) 08:37, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I've looked at the article's talk page, and talk pages for yourself and another editor you have discussed this with, and it appears you are getting advice about how to use reliable sources. The other editors have claimed your sources are improper and are not links (as you stated above), but references to print-only magazines whose existence they cannot verify. WP:VERIFY gives some advice on this. From some of the talk page discussions, it appears you may be referring to magazines you remember reading, but do not have in your possession. This is a problem, and there is no way to resolve it: "remembered" and disputed content cannot be used at WP. I also note that you have said, at one point, that anyone can do an internet search and find verification of the facts you want to add. It's up to YOU to do that search, and insert the links. Asking each user to go do these searches, is not how verification works at WP.

As some more advice, I find it hard to follow which posts you have made, because you often post to talk pages under an anon IP, and/or do no sign your messages, as is the case with the post above. Please make sure you get into the habit of always identifying yourself. If you forget, you can go back and add your signature. I also find it hard to tell what your edits are about from the article history page, because you usually don't use edit summaries. I see you often revert vandalism, which is great, but if I want to review the changes you are talking about here, it's hard to find the applicable edits. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

P.S., here is another help page where you might be able to get a better answer: Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. You may also want to look at other discussions on that page to get a feel for the kinds of issues that come up regarding sources, and how challenges are resolved. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Being that I am the editor BahianChic is referring to, I feel the right to state my claim here as well. The consensus on Lima's heritage as her being Swiss, African, and Native South American has been established numerous times on the article's talk page, but as you can see, Bahian has entirely ignored all my attempts to get her to discuss the issue there and reverts (without reason) anything I do to try to maintain the consensus, which is based on Lima's own description of her heritage (properly cited), which should be - and is, according to other editors - the final word. Other articles Bahian can cite can make all the claims to Lima's heritage that they want, but they're meaningless (and suspect) in the face of what she herself says about it (after all, Lima is the ultimate authority on herself).

But based on your reply, A Knight Who Says Ni, can I maintain in the article that Lima's heritage is Swiss, Native South American, and African based on the talk page consensus and the video of Lima herself backing this up, as the only current indisputable source? Mbinebri (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

For now, that is the fact that is backed by reliable sources, so that is what should be included. However, if you can find reliable sources to verify the other claim, then obviously they should be added. Chamal 15:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok...I honestly thought a company she works for and video from interviews was good enough sources...I would never imagine they wouldn't be. But you can bet I will find a "reliable" source so this can be placed back in the article. I find it very misleading, that this is everywhere online, known by every Adriana fan, and Victoria's Secret has even spoken about it and it can't be on her[REDACTED] page. But...I'm not going to tear up over something that is just frustrating.. Also yes, Adriana has said she's Swiss, Native American, and African...and she's later went on to say other things as well. Which are the ones I've posted, she even once said that she was Japanese partly due to her grandmother from a Zeki triko interview she did back in 2004. I just, I don't understand how an interview she did with Tearsheet, and Victoria's Secrets page on her can not be reliable sources, but I'll work my butt off to find one because I for one don't want Adriana fans mislead...I don't think it's good that the information is everywhere online and it's not here..that's really bad. So as a fan who wants her other fans to not be mislead I will find a "reliable" source. As for doing the searchs I site know that I should do them and add the links, but I was stating it to show these people how many places (100's by the way) back up what I'm stating, it wouldn't be everywhere like that esp on her official cbs page if it wasn't correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk • contribs) 15:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Your sources are not good enough because they do not have Lima stating her own heritage, as she does in the current Youtube link sent to me by someone from your own Lima fansite. Despite your claims, there is no current, reliable evidence of Lima stating anything beyond Swiss, African, and Indian - otherwise, as the Lima expert you are, you obviously would have found it long before now. So until you do find a source with Lima herself making additional claims, I'm glad to hear Chamal agrees with me and I will maintain the article as is, and as the talk page, with its Lima fans, also support. Anything else would compromise the article's validity and be what is really misleading fans. Mbinebri (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC).

You're claiming as support for one particular list of ancestries a youtube clip which is quite long. For those not interested in watching the whole thing, at what specific point is the statement in the clip? Gimmetrow 16:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for not making that clearer. She states her heritage a little before the 4-minute mark. I'll add that to the citation. Mbinebri (talk) 16:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So none of these tell you otherwise. Again, I could get 100's of Adriana fans to agree with me...do you think all these websites and videos just pulled it out of thin air? Videofashion interviewed her, they are going to get the infomation right. http://www.askmen.com/specials/2005_top_99/1.html http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/Adriana_Lima/ http://www.superiorpics.com/adriana_lima/interview.html http://racerelations.about.com/od/celebritiesandrace/a/adrianalima.htm http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0992596/bio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0OhglspGZg

It's odd to me that all the fans and all the articles are wrong...I'm sorry but they're not and misleading fans would be leaving the extra ethenticies out. I'm sorry but I'll keep doing this until someone sees the light, or I will make sure I find a "reliable" source, and it's going to be hard considering why at this stage of Adriana Lima's career would she be stating her ethnicity, and most people who want to know that just google her and find the right info. Also I think it's odd that my claims are considered false...but in the ones I'm providing they also include Native American which she mentions in the video, so all my articles are correct on one ethnicity, but on the others they're not??? That just doesn't happen... If they were completely wrong they wouldn't have had that in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk • contribs) 16:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Alberto Vazquez: actor, Nichael Clayton, Legend of 1900, 25/8

I have added a biography and my name Alberto Vazquez: actor and my credits too. I wanted it added to Famous Puerto Rcan list and was to to put in the userspace and then contact the help desk to have another bring it to article space. can that be done by you? please leave me a message on this. I find this website super complex!!! PRHarlem (talk) 22:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you are finding the website instructions complex. The article you attempted to create was added to a help page (where it doesn't belong), and was removed immediately. I have created a sub-page under your ID called User:PRHarlem/Alberto Vazquez and copied your deleted text there. The article needs more work before it will be accepted at WP. I have also put a list of links to help pages on your talk page. You should also read the page called Misplaced Pages:Your first article. When the article has been improved, it can be moved to a real article page. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 02:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Sock Puppeting

I have been alerted by one of our students that the problem which several students now face is because of vandalism carried out by a user called Mod_Objective. Evidently, this user happened to disrupt the order and therefore was banned, along with the perceived sock puppets. We have been monitoring the situation and know the student who was involved in this. However, other people -in no way connected to the former student - have also been banned, including users:

Kiddish.K
Heretret
Porpurte
Safeguarded'

A student of a University over 100 miles also had their input removed:

Stormtrooper

And other people were also accused of being sock puppets:

Tweedle and Tweedledum

Our students are allowed to use wikipedia, and none of the above - as far as we are aware - was using accounts abusively. Some of our students cannot get on to the site because the computer has disallowed the IP address. But my area of most concern here is how all the changes done by users Kiddish.K and Safeguarded were removed. If the changes that they made were abusive and/or disruptive, then by all mean the user Jayjg, had every right to do so, but this was not the case:

2. Even to the point of getting rid of the following redirects: *

3. Removing other good faith edits:

4. And then it gets a bit silly:*

Just because the user User:Jayjg is a admin, good faith edits shouldn't be removed. This is a University, people do use[REDACTED] and therefore, using one abusive user in the past as a basis to remove all good faith edits by students in the future, is not an intelligent tactic. Someone needs to take charge of the situation. Our students have been using[REDACTED] for a while. Our University holds up to 110 different nationalities, and is currently involved in inter-faith discussions. We encourage our students to use wikipedia, to add whatever they have learnt or know, to this encyclopedia.

In good faith, I'll ask that someone talk to user Jayjg about his unreasonable actions so far. Some of our teachers are even having problems and reviewing the situation, we see no reason why the above users were blocked and banned. All students have the right to use any computer. If someone is being disruptive, we will root them out. All changes are logged on our systems.

Thank you for your time and I hope you choose to do something about this mishap.

Representative code:12U-1 (talk) 13:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

A Checkuser was performed to determine the blocked users relationship to the sock puppeteer. Please consult checkuser for evidence; unfortunately I cannot view your posting as good faith, seeing as it sounds like a highly transparent attempt to cause trouble for a user by use of another sock. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 13:32, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I directed this user to WP:OTRS, in order to first check his identity is legitimate. -- lucasbfr 14:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

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