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Allstarecho (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Per the block statement Anyone may unblock if he promises not to copy and paste copyrighted content into Misplaced Pages anymore, I promise not to copy and paste copyrighted content into Misplaced Pages anymore since I am retired from Misplaced Pages. Additionally, no need in an indef block of a retired user.
Decline reason:
you are not retired from wikipedia, you are quite clearly still here. Viridae 08:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Allstarecho (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Retirement isn't a condition of my being unblocked. The block reason specifically said Anyone may unblock if he promises not to copy and paste copyrighted content into Misplaced Pages anymore and I specifically promised not to copy and past copyrighted content into Misplaced Pages anymore. I am abiding by the specific statement that said I could be unblocked. So now, unblock me.
Decline reason:
I am declining this one too because it doesn't address the reason why the first one was declined. You stated "I promise not to copy and paste copyrighted content into Misplaced Pages anymore since I am retired from Misplaced Pages", since your promise not to copy copyrighted material into[REDACTED] hinges on you being retired, and you clearly aren't retired (which is why the first unblock request was declined). Viridae 10:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Viridae, my retirement is a non-issue as it's not a stipulation that was given in the stipulation for being unblocked. It doesn't matter whether I am retired, not retired, still editing, not editing.. the stipulations say if I promised not to add copyrighted material anymore, I can be unblocked. I promised not to add copyrighted material. I abided by the stipulation given. So now I should be unblocked, period. I'm afraid you not honoring the stipulation as it was set, is bad faith and speaks to other motives of keeping me blocked. - ALLST✰R▼ wuz here @ 20:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
ZOMG!
I'm very sorry I missed this and even more so that in the holiest of months you've left in digust. Please consider taking a wee break and coming back with your digust of copyright intact but your steadfastness in following the bureaucratic and often bizarre rales of content even stronger. The way I feel better about it is that ultimately free content can be seen by all instead of just those whose countries handle copyright issues more constructively. I certainly hope you have an excellent pride month and I really hope you decide to return - you have been a good Wikipedian and helped many other folks and the LGBT project as well. -- Banjeboi 08:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Most of it was a misunderstanding. I still don't see how statistical facts can be copyrighted. Facts are facts, period. Nevertheless, I've had my fill of the bureaucratic atmosphere and am retiring. I may return for general wikignome type stuff but I'm done contributing any content to Misplaced Pages. - ALLST✰R▼ wuz here @ 10:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you're sending mixed signals, by saying I will / I won't retire, and by posting a logo that suggests you don't believe in copyrights even though you promise to "sin no more". Baseball Bugs carrots 10:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what kind of signals I send about my retirement, retirement is not a stipulation for being blocked. Read the block and what was said that I need to do to be unblocked. - ALLST✰R▼ wuz here @ 20:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think this is a case where an example of how something was called copyright and finding equitable solutions to serve both this editor and our readers would make sense. FWIW, ASE and I and many others have had to endure campaigns of deletion of various items for what amounted to - this is not a copyright issue, this is fine. To me this is endemic of confusing and byzantine uploading instructions that have been shown - even in recent studies - to thwart newby editors from even participating. Meanwhile rampant deletion, even of items that were uploaded in good faith and according to policies at the time, fells swaths of content thus adding to the frustration. Don't like it? You must then fight for an overturn at DrV. This seems to fly in the face of Misplaced Pages's ethos of being welcoming and civil but I digress.
My hunch is some of this may fall into the misunderstanding area but was escalated out of a constructive dialog. ASE can get quickly heated but so can many of the other folks so let's see how we can keep both a generally good wikipedian and stay within policies. ASE, if you're up to it point me to a test case or two and I'll see what's up. IMHO, I often have to choose between rewritting and quoting something to avoid OR and it can be painful and time-consuming. With statistics my hunch is putting blatant WP:Attribution so readers/other editors can easily see it may have helped but I'll await further development in hopes we can ease the pain of this. Don't let it get you down, no matter what mistakes have been made they will get cleaned up and even deleted content can be reviewed and reworked if an article needs it. Don't sweat the small stuff and it's all small stuff. -- Banjeboi 20:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)- A lot of the shit she is claiming is copyvio, while it may be, was not put in the articles by me. I just went through her contribs and she's removing shit left and right that I didn't even touch, stuff that's been in articles long before I even contributed to the article but because I happened to contribute to an article which contains questonable content, the articles are being practically wiped out. Some of the shit she's removing is because of dead links. We don't remove content just because a damn link is dead. No, we find a new link. But her edit summary? "404 dead link source and since he's a copyviolator, remove it, do not restore it!". Ridiculous. - ALLST✰R▼ wuz here @ 20:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you're sending mixed signals, by saying I will / I won't retire, and by posting a logo that suggests you don't believe in copyrights even though you promise to "sin no more". Baseball Bugs carrots 10:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)