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WP:PROD wheel war   23 January 2010 {{{votes}}}
Craigy144   20 January 2010 {{{votes}}}
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WP:PROD wheel war

Initiated by MBisanz at 09:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

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Statement by MBisanz

Malinaccier (talk · contribs) protected WP:PROD per a request at WP:RFPP for edit warring/content dispute. Coffee (talk · contribs) edited through the protection to include a new paragraph relating to BLPs in light of a recent motion on BLP deletions. Sandstein (talk · contribs) instructed Coffee to self-revert and when Coffee refused, Sandstein blocked him for 24 hours. OverlordQ (talk · contribs) then edited through the protection to revert Coffee's edit citing WP:BRD.

Coffee should not have edited WP:PROD since he was involved per his edits at the original RFAR. Sandstein should not have blocked as he was involved per his comments at the RFAR leading to the motion in question, because he had expressed a view on the motion at an RFC, and because he has been a content editor of the WP:PROD page in the past . OverlordQ was also involved in it and should not have edited WP:PROD because he was involved per his comments on the original RFAR at . Clearly the throwing around of these edits and blocks by involved admins requires Committee intervention. MBisanz 09:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

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Craigy144

Initiated by Guy (Help!) at 18:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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Statement by JzG

Craigy144 is an administrator. As the AN thread cited shows, he is currently blocked for systematic violation of copyright policy. There appears to be consensus that this is incompatible with his status as an administrator. Separately, he is currently blocked for copyright violation.

I would request that the arbitration committee review this case speedily and decide whether a desysop is warranted, what other sanctions may be merited, and for what duration. Specifically, I think that if there is to be a discussion of any mitigation (e.g. a sincere belief that he was in the right), this is the right venue since this is distinctly sensitive and I don't think we need WP:PITCHFORKS. Guy (Help!) 18:57, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Statement by Tznkai

Barring the emergence of private issues the motion should probably be voted on on-wiki. Assuming the underlying facts are not at issue, the larger question is cut and dry: repeated copyright infringement is not consistent with even the lowest standards of good judgment and sense required of an administrator. Or an editor.--Tznkai (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Statement by involved MLauba

To keep this brief, I reaffirm the statements I made at ANI and stand by them. I blocked Craigy144 after reviewing the first entries added to today's due WP:CP listing, finding October 2008 warning that an ODNB author had complained about copyright infringement, took note of both Craigy144's admin status and the fact that he had not edited since January 3rd.

At that stage, under the impression that there was an ongoing pattern not only of systematic copyright violation but also misuse of a Public Domain attribution template and a pattern of ignoring warnings, I decided to issue a block, selected an indefinite duration for it to ensure the block would still be in place when and if the user returns, and submitted my course of action for review at ANI.

I concur with the sentiments expressed by Guy and Tznkai that no matter what else goes down, the function of administrator on enwiki should not be maintained under the present circumstances until Craigy144 explains himself, acknowledges the issues, helps the cleanup effort arising from his actions, and spends editing time without further copyvio issues. I will also join the two aforementioned editors in recommending an expedited process with no drama.

For completeness, Misplaced Pages:Contributor copyright investigations/Craigy144, once populated, will also be material to this request. MLauba (talk) 22:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Statement by Blood Red Sandman

Since initiators normally leave a statement and it was I who first emailed Arbcom, I feel obliged. Craigy is generally viewed by eveyone who has thus far commented at ANI as no longer suitable for being an admin. In the interests of dramah reduction, I shall now shut up, except to say: Alexandr! I never realised you could be found round Arbcom! Blood Red Sandman 12:48, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Craigy144 has been advised that he may request temporary unblocking for the purpose of commenting here. -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/3/0/6)

  • Decline Normally I wouldn't vote until all parties had a chance to promote this statement, but the matter has already been brought to the attention of ArbCom, and we are considering possible responses and actions to this issue. SirFozzie (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Decline full case; in favor of handling this by summary motion. I do not believe that the underlying facts are in question, and absent a compelling explanation from Craigy144 they would justify a desysop. Hold this request open until Craigy144 has had the opportunity to provide an explanation or that it is clear that no such explanation is forthcoming. — Coren  19:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment. Leaning towards accept as the evidence so far doesn't seem controversial but I would like to hear from Craigy144 first. On the face of it, this can probably be best dealt with by open motion here, unless compelling reasons to hear it in private are made.  Roger Davies 20:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Handle by open motion after waiting for an explanation by Craigy144 Fritzpoll (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Per Fritzpoll. Steve Smith (talk) 21:56, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Hold pending a response from Craigy, although I agree this probably doesn't need a full case. Waiting to see what Craigy's response is before I decline/accept, although at the moment this definitely doesn't seem like full case material. Hersfold 22:05, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Hold (for a few days, if necessary) so that we can hear from Craigy144. Clerks, please note that Craigy144 is currently indefinitely blocked; please ensure that there is a notice on his talk page advising him that he may request unblocking for the purpose of addressing this issue, should he prefer to do so onwiki rather than via email. Risker (talk) 22:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Hold until we hear from Craigy and agree that this is unlikely to need a full case. Shell 16:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Hold for now per comments above. Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - waiting for Craigy144 to make a statement. He may not turn up for some time. I will note here that he has not misused his administrator tools, so if he responds adequately, I'm not seeing a reason to accept a case here, or take any action. A request for comments seems a better approach. The key here is to get Craigy144 responding to concerns. Ultimately, if he remains unresponsive to concerns, that would be reason to take action, as taking action based on the concerns expressed here would need a case to examine what took place, and to confirm or reject the verdicts reached earlier (I'm not contesting the verdict that led to the block, I'm saying that accepting that verdict without examining the evidence would not be right - and the CCI page shows there is potentially a lot to look at). Carcharoth (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Decline for now. He's blocked. If he does something crazy or doesn't offer any explanations for his actions, he can be desysopped, but there's no reason to act until he responds. Cool Hand Luke 22:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
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