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This article demeans Blu-Ray. It's not neutral. Give details not comparisions!

From my understanding of HD-DVD it is basically a DVD that uses a blue laser (and consequently smaller and tighter track) and is really just an upgrade of the DVD specs.

I thought HD DVD was a disc that used the normal red laser, but used compression algorithms to get the higher desnity. If it uses a blue laser, then why was it even created, it would mean that a new player would have to be bought anyway.

You're thinking of HD-DVD-9, which was proposed by Warner Bros. and uses a red laser. -Finster

Neutral?

Are we being neutral on the competition subject? The Blu-ray page is much deeper and contains more information than this one. Perhaps a comparison page would help people decide more fairly?Hearth 02:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not seeing the neutrality here either. There's also some apparent vandalism/fanboyism going on in the Blu-Ray Disc with regard to the history of that format. I'd also like to see some neutrality in these articles, or at least, factual accounts with sources... Locke Cole 05:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I tend to feel the same way. I was editing the Blue ray page as it was simple a redirect to Blu-Ray Disc while I think it should be neutrally referred to the "technology." within 24 hours, someone would just change it back to a redirect stating that: 1. Blue Ray = Blu-ray and 2. Anyone who are looking for Blue ray is looking for Blu-ray Disc.

I'm sure more information could be here. This is too small.--Occono 16:45, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Prejudice Wording

It would be most proper to allow criticism from within the reader rather than using suggestive wording. The details are relative to the topic. But to use a word like "substantially" suggests that HD DVD is at a great disadvantage as far as the required size for the new video market. Storage size does not suggest a direct advantage or disadvantage especially since it's not defined which market that scenario may exist in. Negative wording motivates the reader to look with a cynical eye rather than a neutral eye.

HD DVD was developed for the market it was intended for. Blue Ray was developed for the market it was intended for.

This information should be presented objectively.

I think we all share your feelings on NPOV, but when you changed "substantially" to "significantly", I think this did not help. We should either reword this or remove it, which I have for the moment. I think this article is about as NPOV as they come as it stands now. (By the way, please sign your posts on talk pages.) -- Chris 18:14, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Name change

Proper usage is HD DVD (no hyphen). See the DVD Forum and HD DVD Promotion Group links for confirmation. - HB

Edited the wording in the sentence mentioning HD-DVD being cheaper to manufacture, because existing DVD equipment can be modified to manufacture the HD-DVD disks.... --??

Please get an account and/or log in... It only takes a few seconds, and really helps people, not only to be less likely to revert your edits, but also, to indentify yourself, so other Wikipedians can get an idea of your personality, based on what edits you make :) --Wulf 06:06, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Region Codes

Will HD DVD "support" region codes ? If somebody reliably knows then please add this information ....

HD DVD for the Xbox?

"On November 25th the Xbox 360 will be upgraded to HD-DVD in the Premium Version only."

Where is the source!? Nothing has been announced.

As far as I know, Microsoft has simply stated the Xbox 360 will eventually support whichever form of high definition disc (HD-DVD, or Blu-ray) "wins". --Wulf 06:02, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

Microft is on the DVD Forum Steering Committee, which approved the HD DVD spec. A simple Google Search turns up more. But HD DVD for the Xbox 360 that's launching at the end of the year? That's news.
- Pueywei 06:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

As stated before, nothing has been confirmed. The source of all this is the statement Bill Gates did in Japan in late June. See the article on Xbox 360 for more information.
- FoH

Actually it was annnounced at the 2006 CES in Las Vegas that Xbox 360 will have an external HD DVD drive add-on; however not much details are announced.

Apple does not support "HD DVD"

DVD Studio Pro does not allow burning HD DVD media, but it does allow burning HD H.264 content to a normal DVD. Why would Apple support HD DVD when they are on the BOARD OF DIRECTORS for Blu-Ray? -Finster

Nevertheless, DVD Studio Pro claims to support this. --Yamla 22:50, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

From the website: "Showcase your HD content with integrated, scalable H.264 encoding that allows you to fit HD content on DVDs using existing drives and existing media. Create HD on DVD versions from existing SD projects. Go from native HDV to HD on DVD with no recompression from Final Cut Pro and save time by encoding HD and SD in one Compressor batch." As you can see there is no mention of HD DVD anywhere. DVD Studio Pro does not claim to support the HD DVD standard in any way. Paul/_T+ 00:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

HP Engineer claims Blu-Ray cash incentives

In the Controversies section it states an HP engineer has claimed the Blu-Ray alliance offers cash incentives to hardware manufacturers who adopt their technology. Is there a citation which states this engineer's name or has the engineer opted to remain anonymous? --Klhuillier 07:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Copyright

I have removed the "Controversies" section three times so far as blatant copyright infringement. I will continue to remove the section until such time as the issue of copyright infringement is addressed. I have warned two users (here and here) who added this section, but I'm assuming both are sockpuppets of eachother (as is the third anon IP to add it). People should remove these additions on sight and without hesitation. —Locke Cole • t • c 07:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Wow, isn't copyvio man.. and I hope you invented sockpuppet story to try gain respect, by the way you are no minority... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.29.9.238 (talk • contribs) 07:01, December 31, 2005 (UTC)

It's a word for word copy of the articles cited. One user modified them slightly, but they are still a derivitive of a copyrighted work. —Locke Cole • t • c 08:43, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

No copyvios, sorry and keep the information (looks like you trying to hide the section in pro-HD-DVD bias) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.29.34.245 (talk • contribs) 13:24, December 31, 2005 (UTC)

Copying content, verbatim, from another copyrighted source is a violation of copyright. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

No copyvios Locke Cole is vandal blanking true informations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.29.32.208 (talk • contribs) 18:16, January 2, 2006 (UTC)

Whether it's true or not is irrelevant, it is illegal to copy verbatim from copyrighted sources into Misplaced Pages. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm having a bit of trouble finding exactly what passages are actual verbatim copies of the linked articles--could you perhaps provide a side-by-side comparison of the anon's text and the article sources? I'm pretty picky about plagiarism (see User:TenOfAllTrades/Aloha Dupe), but there's a lot of material to wade through in all those links. Thanks, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 18:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I responded on your talk page, it looks like it got changed at some point though significantly (though the first sentence and the initial FUD part were left behind, which was enough for me to believe it was just being copied still). —Locke Cole • t • c 19:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)