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Wikimood: Tulip spin cycle
A Pyrrhic victory, of sort
What? Anyway, I just woke from some disturbing nightmares a few hrs ago. I came out on top, but am still shaken. Please comfort me at will! El_C 10:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
What?
What? Dear me. Just watch the tulipfaces and go oooooohmmmmmm for now! Bishonen talk 10:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC).
- Yes! I can do that! It smiles however way to you look at it! Incidentally-ly, my "what" was in reference to the strange fomrat this talk page has taken (lack of goats, for example). It is as if you are trying to convey something, but I've yet to even begin to grasp what that thing is! El_C 10:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Without a care: Sansouuci for FA
Oh!, you're returned to us are you? well I have been very busy indeed, working tirelessly on Sanssouci which is a monumantally brilliant translation by trebor27 and was on FAC, but needed a few alterations. It's now back on FAC and need a few comments (don't even think it!). It really is quite good (IMO) and has lots of pretty pictures - so run along and have a look. Nice to see you back though - refreshed and invigorated. Giano | talk 13:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
"Fixing" Sarah Scott
Damn it, people keep "correcting" the title of her novel. <sigh> It reminds me of the newspaper that used a search and replace routine and then had to issue the following retraction: "Last week, the article should have read 'The company hopes that the new actions will help get the finances back into the black,' not 'back into the African American.' We regret the error." Anyway, I was expecting more herring chasing after my comments on the "Brave Admins" talk page, too, but I guess I was either clearer in my intent or more Johnsonian in my dilery than I expected. Geogre 02:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- What's your dilery? An anatomical part? You'll have to put in some commented out caution in the article text, I think. I was just composing one. :-) Bishonen talk 18:32, 9 April 2006 (UTC).
- I beat you to it. Hmm, I don't think the servers are done waking up yet; the salon here is acting a little funny. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, edit conflict. Easy to beat me when you only put it in one place! As long as mine was done, I put it in, though. Geogre, you get to pick one! Bishonen talk 02:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Yours is obviously better. Though the comment in the middle of the section header makes me nervous. Seems to work. By the way, welcome back! I missed you. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- It makes you nervous? I couldn't believe it when it seemed to work. Thank you, watch your tulipfaces go round and round (how about some programmer<cough> making an actual animated gif of the flowery whirl?) Bishonen talk 02:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Yours is obviously better. Though the comment in the middle of the section header makes me nervous. Seems to work. By the way, welcome back! I missed you. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, edit conflict. Easy to beat me when you only put it in one place! As long as mine was done, I put it in, though. Geogre, you get to pick one! Bishonen talk 02:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- I beat you to it. Hmm, I don't think the servers are done waking up yet; the salon here is acting a little funny. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
My dilery. You know, as in "what's the dilery, yo?" (Actually, it was supposed to be "delivery." It's hard to speak of one's clear or Johnsonian delivery when one has a typo in it.) (And Johnson was known to compose while walking to the printer, so I can't say, "He did it, too!") I love your collective warnings. It ought to stop people not using -bots, but, then again, the longish Talk page comment should have stopped them, too, esp. since there was already a history edit summary saying that Scott was the one with the spelling problem in this case. Thanks, folks. Geogre 04:24, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Shakey with a side of Garrick
Welcome back, dear! I do hope you're feeling better!
I've been working on S's reputation a bit, but i've gotten a bit side-tracked. I just noticed the travesty of an article on David Garrick and I immediately set to righting the situation, which will lead back to S's reputation (which will now include Garrick's contribution to performance of S) once finished. Turns out that Mr. Garrick, being one of the wealthiest men in Britain, was also one of the most painted and I've discovered a great cache of paintings of him including a marvelous painting of him in Vanbrugh's The Provoked Wife! The cache is now on Commons in Commons:Category:David Garrick. Again, glad to have you back from the depths of Bedlam! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 03:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Cool: that should be of help to me in Drury Lane, which still has its one original anemic sentence about Garrick in there. Of course, Drury Lane was only supposed to be a short side-project while I was researching Nell Gwynne (speaking of travesties of articles). —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 04:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I still have to send you some info on the ghosts as well. I'll try to remember to do that tonight along with my taxes, ugh! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 15:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oooh! Oooh! Bunchofgrapes, read Fleetwood Sheppard. He's connected to Nelly. As for Garrick, it's too close to my bete noir, Samuel Johnson, whom I have been compared to so often that it's a standing joke between me and Bishonen and whom I actually do not read. Johnson is a world, much like Shakespeare, and I won't visit for a day if I can't get to know the whole of it. Geogre 04:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Ooh some more: For Drury Lane, see what is about to take place at Barnaby Bernard Lintot, as I'm about to rewrite that article and include the fact that he automatically offered money to print plays put on at Drury Lane from 1705-1712. Geogre 14:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- For those interested, I've finished overhauling and overwriting the Lintot article now. He appears to have been far, far more agreeable than Edmund Curll and actually somewhat reputable, which makes his cojoining with Curll in Dunciad a very serious insult to him. When Pope got pissed off at you, he stayed pissed off. Geogre 14:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- (And I just noticed I took this post out myself when restoring the others... getting complicated! ALoan, where are you??) Geogre, the Lintot article is excellent, great flow and sort of attack, I'd love to see that one an FA. You know, the name is an oddity. "Lintott" is a Swedish word, maybe a little oldfashioned but perfectly current: it means "towhead", "blond boy". (Sw lin is indeed = flax or tow.) What do you know about that? Any Scandinavian ancestry at all there? Bishonen talk 18:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- As in linseed and linen... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- (And I just noticed I took this post out myself when restoring the others... getting complicated! ALoan, where are you??) Geogre, the Lintot article is excellent, great flow and sort of attack, I'd love to see that one an FA. You know, the name is an oddity. "Lintott" is a Swedish word, maybe a little oldfashioned but perfectly current: it means "towhead", "blond boy". (Sw lin is indeed = flax or tow.) What do you know about that? Any Scandinavian ancestry at all there? Bishonen talk 18:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Thanks. I wonder, too. Lintott got convinced that he was related to the royal printer Lintot, so he changed the spelling of his name. However, there were loads and loads of Scandinavian names in the east of England (the Danelaw, after all), so not all the Linders and Lindens were recent. No telling how far back Bernard went. His pa was British, but I don't know about the grand daddy. I was impressed by reading the biography that Lintott was really just a guy who started out poor, liked literature, and climbed reasonably well. He never could hide his "common" background, but he knew his limits and yet wanted to overcome them. Curll was a Rupert Murdoch-like creature, and Tonson was a William Paley sort or a William Randolph Hearst sort. Lintott was somewhere between. Also, it looks like Pope was the dunce in all this, and yet Lintott got blasted more memorably even than Curll, though not as often. Geogre 02:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Da Popezilla! :-D Hi Gan, great that you're taking on old Garlic. I had thoughts of doing it myself, and went and bought McIntyre's bio, but was quite disappointed with it after the great reviews I'd read--I thought it clichéed--and so lost interest. But G himself is extremely interesting, indeed. I think he was as famous in Germany and France as in Britain, if I remember rightly--not as actor, of course, but as an expounder of the philosophy of shakey-acting; do I remember it right? Oh, and Bunch, YES--the Drury Lane article is coming on fantastically, you're doing incredible work, but every time I read that "he produced many plays" while he managed the theatre... it hurts! Bishonen talk 17:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- The pain keeps us alert. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Animated gif coming on all right? Bishonen talk 18:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- That's hard work! Can I just make one spinning around? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Mmmmmm... oh, all right. Yes, that would be very nice, thanks. Hey, can I have it spinning round in my sig, do you think? :-D Bishonen talk 18:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- That's hard work! Can I just make one spinning around? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Animated gif coming on all right? Bishonen talk 18:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- The pain keeps us alert. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 17:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Da Popezilla! :-D Hi Gan, great that you're taking on old Garlic. I had thoughts of doing it myself, and went and bought McIntyre's bio, but was quite disappointed with it after the great reviews I'd read--I thought it clichéed--and so lost interest. But G himself is extremely interesting, indeed. I think he was as famous in Germany and France as in Britain, if I remember rightly--not as actor, of course, but as an expounder of the philosophy of shakey-acting; do I remember it right? Oh, and Bunch, YES--the Drury Lane article is coming on fantastically, you're doing incredible work, but every time I read that "he produced many plays" while he managed the theatre... it hurts! Bishonen talk 17:55, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- For those interested, I've finished overhauling and overwriting the Lintot article now. He appears to have been far, far more agreeable than Edmund Curll and actually somewhat reputable, which makes his cojoining with Curll in Dunciad a very serious insult to him. When Pope got pissed off at you, he stayed pissed off. Geogre 14:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Ooh some more: For Drury Lane, see what is about to take place at Barnaby Bernard Lintot, as I'm about to rewrite that article and include the fact that he automatically offered money to print plays put on at Drury Lane from 1705-1712. Geogre 14:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Nice images, particularly G in his dress. I was surprised that someone *ahem* needed to turn The Provok'd Wife from a redirect into an article, though. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Damn, BoG, that thing is hypnotizing! Hey Bish, maybe you could use it to get other Wikipedians to do our bidding! *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 19:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Like she needs more help there! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I looove this thing! Rolling on the floor laughing out loud! Bishonen talk 20:16, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Like she needs more help there! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Buckingham Palace on the Main Page
Thanks for your congratulations, I had no idea - how do you know? I disagree with you though it is not my most attractive work, Sic Bar is still (IMO) that; and BP has been much edited and altered, so will probably be FARCd while on the main page, unless one of the zealots spot it first. To be honest I would rather see Sanssouci there on 21st as that exemplifies the wiki community spirit and is also a very attractive page, but it still has to complete FAC, so may take some time. Thanks for letting me know. Giano | talk 14:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- You add Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/April 2006 to your watchlist, that's all. Well, except that it's a pest because you have to change the name every month, if you want up to date info. I agree that Sic Bar is your chef d'oeuvre, how could I not, but it's a monster, too! (For size, that is.) Bishonen talk 18:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Sorry - thought you would have noticed. It was suggested at WP:TFA and accepted surprisingly quickly. -- ALoan (Talk) 18:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think it would be rather "immodest" for moi to put it on my watch list. As you all know I hate a vulgar ostentation! .......Hohohohohoho, yahoooo, yaboooo sucks - fuck a duck - I'm there again - yeehoooooooo!!!!!!!!! Giano | talk 20:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, we all know you try. But until you've got your wikiface SPINNING in your sig, you don't even know what vulgar ostentation is! YEEE HAAAA! Bishonen talk 20:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- That is just sooooooooo much the tackiest thing I have ever seen, I suppose BoG will have a regurgitating camembert next!.....No, BoG that was a joke, not an invitation I think it's time a took a long Wikibreak, but I just can't bear to give so many so much pleasure. Giano | talk 20:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Don't worry, Giano, I'm more of an enabler than a participant. But perhaps I could interest you in a hopping palace, or something? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- ALoan, here we go again — a few recent edits get taken out every time you post, it's just weird. (See history.) I know it's not you being careless with edit conflicts, you don't have to tell me, but what the heck is causing it? Do you think you could take it to some scriptkiddy or to ANI or something? There's got to be some simple explanation. Bishonen talk 18:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC).
- Sorry. I was mesmerised by the rotating tulip. (Last time I asked, they said it was a known bug.) -- ALoan (Talk) 12:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Warning, danger Will Robinson!
Here is the warning you requested Raul654 22:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- And still no Restoration literature or Augustan literature or Augustan drama, not to mention poor Attalus I (Paul August's bridesmaid still waiting for a groom). Geogre 02:25, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- We seem to be having a Scandinavian/ice theme month - we have had Antarctica already, and then there is an Icelandic volcano, a Norwegian king, and glacial retreat, before we get to the balloon, which is followed immediately by the allotment system used by the Swedish army...
- Infra dig, perhaps, but you could suggest / request Attalus or the others at WP:TFA, rather than waiting to be picked from obscurity... Perhaps I should just do it for you... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Request it? At this point, Paul has been waiting patiently for over a year, I think. In fact, I think it's rather more than a year by a substantial margin. As for my own poor literature articles, I'd be content with any one of the three. Probably Restoration literature is the fullest read and most readable one, but, because we have Restoration almost as a counter-current to the Frozen North and Nintendo, perhaps one of the Augustan era articles would be salt to the stew. As for requesting... I'm trying to remain at the Center of Indifference as Budha and Thomas Carlyle recommended. Geogre 12:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oh - Augustan literature appeared on the Main Page on 10 August 2005! (see Talk:Augustan literature) -- ALoan (Talk) 13:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Shoot! If there were some other president in office in the US, I'd worry that my credibility were ruined by getting things wrong, but I will take a page from his coloring book and insist that I meant Augustan drama or Restoration literature (which probably is the more readable one). Geogre 14:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oh - Augustan literature appeared on the Main Page on 10 August 2005! (see Talk:Augustan literature) -- ALoan (Talk) 13:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I've wanted to put Attalus I up on the main page for a while now, but coins just don't make good main page images! Check the talk page - I pointed that out way back in early April, 2005 (And the current picture is fair use). Raul654 14:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Ah. Paul said that he's at peace with holding the bouquet and bridal train at this point, but it is almost getting comic. Geogre 14:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Ballooon landing on main page
Well! well! well! What a surprise! Congratulations. Giano | talk 06:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- No as a matter of fact I did not! allthough I was going to. Very intelligent human beings such as Raul and myself though can comminicate by telepathy, so I will take the credit for it being there just the same. Have you removed the pretentious text though? "Gently slipped away, guided by angels, into a better world" is the way I would express it Giano | talk 12:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- You do realize the pretentiousness comes in the very first sentence, and will thus appear ON the Main Page itself? I you want to change it, you'll have to do it here, not just in the article text. Oh, I forgot, you can't, can you? Upcoming Main Page text is protected. Only us admins can edit it. And, let me see, you aren't one, are you? <cough>MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<cough>. Bishonen | talk 10:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC).
- Don't worry I'm sure one of your peers like Orane would do it for me. Giano | talk 12:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- You do realize the pretentiousness comes in the very first sentence, and will thus appear ON the Main Page itself? I you want to change it, you'll have to do it here, not just in the article text. Oh, I forgot, you can't, can you? Upcoming Main Page text is protected. Only us admins can edit it. And, let me see, you aren't one, are you? <cough>MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<cough>. Bishonen | talk 10:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC).
- Congratulations and best wishes for the article being on main page, and all the attention that brings. Perhaps "lost the fight, epic and enduring, as all must in the end, against that most bitter of enemies, foe to joy, widow's grief and orphan's warder, death?" Or, to make the expert editor happy, "Kicked the bucket." In fact, I think, "Andree kicked the bucket on White's Island in 1897" will be great. Geogre 12:12, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- I liked the first one better, however "lost the fight" just doesn't strike the right note, does it? Perhaps "succumbed to pitiless cruelties of nature" would be more apt? Note the poetic overblown redundancy! KillerChihuahua 12:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Apt schmapt. I declare we have a consensus for croaked. Bishonen talk 14:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC).
- I'm not sure. How about "...in which all three expedition members labored in futility to push up the daisies that (alas!) would never bloom in their cruel arctic graveyard." —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 14:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Apt schmapt. I declare we have a consensus for croaked. Bishonen talk 14:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC).
- I liked the first one better, however "lost the fight" just doesn't strike the right note, does it? Perhaps "succumbed to pitiless cruelties of nature" would be more apt? Note the poetic overblown redundancy! KillerChihuahua 12:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- .....when their last soft breath was lost on the glacial breeze which enshrinined them for eternity in their sarcophagi of ice. Giano | talk 17:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- "...then did Fama, with her mournful trumpet sound the passing of these noble men and valiant heroes." Geogre 17:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- and the world was then still, as only sobbing sounded across the frozen tundra Giano | talk 17:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Um, given the frigid fate of our three heroes, who was sobbing exactly? The polar bears? I think not - they would have been most relieved. Perhaps "...and the world was then still, the silence broken only by the gentle sighing of the Hyperborean air, the groaning of the ice, and the padding of polar bears." -- ALoan (Talk) 18:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- and the world was then still, as only sobbing sounded across the frozen tundra Giano | talk 17:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- "...then did Fama, with her mournful trumpet sound the passing of these noble men and valiant heroes." Geogre 17:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- Forgive him.....he is British..they have no romance in their souls, they see not the beauty in having their bolox frozen off. Giano | talk 19:32, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Requested review
The second opinion I mentioned in IRC was for Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima. Raul654 06:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)