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My father, born in Kiel (Schleswig-Holstein) in 1911, was an apprentice founder. He did the three years and a day of wandering apprenticeship. Besides scholarly references, I'd like to see more information about this practice in non-German-speaking countries. Zyxwv99 (talk) 23:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
False etymology: "journeyman"
There's a huge problem with the whole title of the article and the introduction that plays on it:
The "journey" in "journeyman" has nothing to do with travelling!
"Journey" in any sense is related to French journée and Italian giornata, and comes from Latin diurnatum, which means roughly "pertaining to a day". The sense of "journey" as travel was originally "a day's travel". The sense of "journey" in "journeyman" was originally "a day's work." The word "journeyman" in English never implied travel in any way. Source: Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. —Wegesrand (talk) 09:17, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- The article does not talk about "journey". It talks about the "journeyman years" which refers to the concept of being for years on the road (not a day span). The hint on "journee = a day's work" had been given in the second paragraph. So I am inclined to say that there's nothing wrong with the article. Guidod (talk) 09:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)