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Mail

Hello Alexi! You have mail. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 10:43, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

This photo archive is also quite valuable. I don't know what the story is on its copyright, though. Constantine ✍ 11:47, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Some BW period pics are quite good to be added immediately.Alexikoua (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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AA list

Thank you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:38, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I think I became immune to such activities. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:26, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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Јањина

Hi,

Will you please be so kind to keep your eye on my editing of Ottoman Ioannina related articles, like Ioannina Eyalet and Pashalik of Yanina. Thanks.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:08, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, here is discussion about it.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:45, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Himara

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Who changed the title?

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Souliotes

Καλησπέρα, μιλάς Ελληνικά πρόσεξα. Σχετικά με το άρθρο Souliotes και τη διαφωνία σου, έκανα μια καλή προσπάθεια για καλύτερη μεταχείριση του άρθρου με τον πρέποντα σεβασμό που αρμόζει σε Ηρωες της Ελλάδας. Μερικοί από αυτούς ήταν και οι Σουλιώτες. Μ΄αυτή την κίνησή μου αποφέχθηκε να υπάρχει ο χαρακτηρισμός αλβανοί στις κατηγορίες. Γιατί έγινε η αναστροφή από πλευρά σου, όταν και το άρθρο Αρβανίτες (- Arvanites) ακολουθεί την ίδια πολιτική; Οι κατηγορίες Category:Greek War of Independence Category:Greek revolutionaries Category:Greek people Category:Ottoman Epirus μεταφέρονται στην κατηγορία -C:Souliotes- και έτσι δεν υπάρχει κανένα ζήτημα διαμάχης. Αν ακόμη επιμένεις στην επεξεργασία σου θέλω και μία αξιοπρεπή δικαιολογία από μεριά σου. --Tsaousvastic (talk) 22:30, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Agkistro

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A barnstar for you!

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London conference

Hi Alexikoua,

It is nice to hear from you again. Albanian POV was present before my edit you pointed at. There were three main reasons of this edit of mine:

1. to distinct the Principality of Albania created in July 1913 from Albania which was proclaimed on 28. November 1912
2. to clarify that it was not 40 but 30% of Albanian population left out of the newly established principality
3. to distinct Kosovo Vilayet from Kosovo

I, of course, don't object to your removal of the excess of Albanian POV.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:00, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ioannis Velissariou

On 30 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ioannis Velissariou, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that when Ottoman commander Esad Pasha surrendered after the 1913 Battle of Bizani, Greek Army officer Ioannis Velissariou personally led the Ottoman delegation to Greek headquarters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ioannis Velissariou.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Black and Red Alliance

Thanks for finding that reference. That's actually what I should have tried to do; WP people's opinions aren't relevant, just what reliable sources say. I expect the other editors to push back based on what the leader said, but the independent sources always trump self-descriptions in cases like this. Thanks! Qwyrxian (talk) 21:48, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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October 1915

In May 1914, the Great Powers signed the Protocol of Corfu, which recognized the area as Greek, after which it was occupied by the Greek army from October 1914 until October 1915 ... and collapsed under the Italian invasion of 1915 i.e. please stick to the sources. --— ZjarriRrethues —  11:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

A mountain of specialist WWI bibliography disagrees on that, for example: ]]]], placing the Italian advance one year laterAlexikoua (talk) 13:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

That's still 1916 though, which makes the caption accurate.--— ZjarriRrethues —  15:34, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

To be precise that's from October 1916.Alexikoua (talk) 18:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Thank you

Thank you for very nice barnstar.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Αλυτρωτική συμπεριφορά - No needed analysις of a name into another Greek article

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Tenedos Change of my content

You reversed my content that the Kanaris attack off of Tenedos damaged a ship, but not the flagship and reasserted that it was the flagship which was destroyed. Multiple historical sources show that the Flagship was left unharmed, while Kanaris destroyed one of the other ships (intentionally). From Robert Vaughn's detailed history (available here, pg. 456): "On the 10th of November, the war was illustrated by another brilliant exploit of Kanaris. The Ottoman fleet was riding anchor between Tenedos and the Troad. Two line-of-battle ships were anchored windward of the rest of the fleet. Kanaris steered a fire-ship right on the windward quarter. The sails of the fire-ship were nailed to the mast and steeped in turpentine. The Greek hero performed his task with his usual coolness and perfect contempt of danger. He scarcely had time to jump into little boat and row off, ere the flames burned up higher than the maintop of the seventy-four. The crew leaped into the sea and most were drowned, as they were far from the shore. The huge vessel blazed up, and the magazine exploded, killing, it is said, eight hundred men. The companion of Kanaris, who, in a sister fire-ship, undertook the destruction of the flag-ship, failed in his enterprise, and the fire-ship burned harmlessly." This provides far better and more substantive details than the Werke source you link (which is a brief mention). Also, the information in Vaughn's history is supported in other works, see here and here (and others).

I will again change the context to properly reflect the historical accuracy that a brave attack destroyed an Ottoman ship, but not the flagship. The Tenedos Talk page has a section about this attack, if you have other sources you would like to convince editors to reestablish the 'flagship' contention, please post them there. Thank you. AbstractIllusions (talk) 01:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

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All cool

Your petition on my talk page is replied there, although you forgot to sign (and ratify :-) it... All the best. --E4024 (talk) 22:01, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Barnstars of wikiproject Greece

− Speaking of flags, Aleksi (we shared the same detention cell, I guess I may call you with a short name) can I kindly ask you, out of curiosity, why you have 3 Greek flags in your User Page? I mean I understand if you like a flag and want to display it on your User Page it is OK, although I personally would not do that on mine, or if you feel you have two "patrias" (like Greece and RoC or Turkey and TRNC) and you display the two flags, it's also all right, but displaying 3 of the same old Greek flag on one page... Is there any intricate reason, if not too personal? (BTW happy you got us blocked both? If you wish reply on my TP not to disturb others.) --E4024 (talk) 12:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

(The above was on an article TP but removed. Indeed I should have written here (or it should have been moved here.) Whatever... --E4024 (talk) 13:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

In[REDACTED] these are called wp:barnstars and ribbons and most of them are not related to wproject:Greece. Veteran editors tend to keep them somewhere, it reminds them of their constructive cooperation they had in past with coeditors from various national backgrounds.

By the way the Greek flag has nine stripes.Alexikoua (talk) 22:29, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

I hope you will also receive some of the same for your constructive cooperation on wproject:Turkey in the future... --E4024 (talk) 06:30, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Reorg of the early Greek history part in Ancient Tenedos

Yes, some reorg is needed there. It jumps around. Churn and change (talk) 21:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Tenedos: Aeolian migration in Bronze/Iron age

See talk page of the article. There is an RS talking of the current state of archaeological evidence on the theory, and, in fact, a lengthy description of the theory itself. I have posted a link there to the article, but will have to remove it in a day or two. Churn and change (talk) 00:31, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Your way in Izmir or Smyrna

Being neutral between an invader and the invaded is part of your very original way of thinking, right? Like believing 1920 comes before 1919?.. You know, people like you opened up my mind a lot about how the real world is, so I thank you... --E4024 (talk) 12:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

The Turkish pov terms Izmir landing of the Greek army in 1919 as an invasion, the Greek pov as a liberation, subsequently the Turkish pov terms the recapture of Izmir in 1922 as a liberation, while the Greek pov as a disaster. It's how someone can see the world, but a good approach here is to present both povs in a balanced way, exactly how neutral bibliography deals with it.Alexikoua (talk) 14:11, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Do those change the fact about who caused a disaster? --E4024 (talk) 20:02, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

who caused the disaster according to you? it would be extremely childisch to blame one side in this occassion.Alexikoua (talk) 20:39, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

From Greek to English WP.

What is the appropriate tag for an article in english that is based mostly on another of the Greek WP?--Euzen (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:ΒικιπαίδειαAlexikoua (talk) 18:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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Pie Chart on "Great Fire of Smyrna" and "Izmir" page

Alexikoua, I am writing to appeal to you to fix a problematic pie chart on Great Fire of Smyrna and Izmir pages. You know the pie chart because it has been contentious recently. I have no opinion about whether a pie chart belongs on the pages or not and will leave that up to interested editors. My problem is its attribution to Katherine Fleming's great book. If I go to Fleming's book and look up the cited page, the only thing I get that tells me anything is this: "Before the mass arrival of the refugees, there were about 150,000 Greeks living in the city, almost half its total population." (pg. 81) (Note: this also conflicts with the other claims attributed to Fleming in the articles like "For instance, according to Fleming Katherine Elizabeth, the Greek element in Smyrna formed the majority of the population, outnumbering the Turkish by a ratio of two to one", this isn't what she says. Also her claim is 1918 not 1922, but that's an easy mistake) The footnote for this claim similarly provides no data which could be used for the pie chart. If I look at the other pages mentioning Izmir or Smyrna in her book (I have the actual book, not just the limited version on Google Books), I get nothing even close to the numbers in the chart. The attribution to Fleming's book for the chart is not accurate, she provides none of the numbers at all for the pie chart. I am writing to you because you have indicated in the edit history that there are other sources for these claims. Great. Please fix the attribution on the pages with a source providing the actual numbers in the chart, because it ain't Fleming's book. Thank you for your time. AbstractIllusions (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll check this one carefully. Although the majority of sources give a clear Greek majority, precise numbers maybe not so clear.Alexikoua (talk) 21:57, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

"the majority of sources give a clear Greek majority" Absolutely, this claim is right (although another tricky point will be discerning population of Smyrna from population of Zone of Smyrna--See Toynbee for this claim). My problem is only with the incorrect attribution and not with the claim at all. AbstractIllusions (talk) 22:37, 22 October 2012 (UTC)