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Minority official languages

Please give your comment on following case of infoboxes of settlements in Croatia. There is an long-term conflict about which information should be included in line official name. Whether it is all names that are official according to reliable and official sources (2 or 3 names), or we need to make our own decision to use only one name and declare other official languages (if they are languages ​​of ethnic minorities in Croatia) to be unnecessary even when some minority group make up majority in local community and use two official languages based on law. We had such debate here Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Croatia#Minority languages where community agreed on usage of minority names in infoboxes and user which for a long time remove my referenced edits was blocked temporarily. Unfortunately, now he again delete minority official languages from infoboxes and also remove without discussion line official languages. His edits are not considered to be vandalism, but those edits are POV-pushing and disruptive. For this reason, based on recommendation of member of WP Croatia I turn to you if you can confirm that all official languages are necessary or unnecessary for reader equally and that line official languages also is not unnecessary. Please give your opinion.--MirkoS18 (talk) 15:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

This is the English Misplaced Pages, and I doubt that many here would care to step into any Balkans dispute. George Ponderevo (talk) 03:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I thank you for your neutrality and distance. I would just like to say to George that even people from Balkans somehow manage, with great effort, to realize that it is English Misplaced Pages-so there is no need for any kind of superior cynical comments. I want completely withdraw my plea for your opinion since I miraculously found that this conflict can be overridden even among aggressive and unreasonable Balkans editors. All the best.--MirkoS18 (talk) 20:48, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I think that with your "super cynical comments" remark you demonstrate very nicely why so few care to venture into any Balkans dispute. It would be like expecting a rational debate from a box of frogs. George Ponderevo (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Comparison with frogs, well, maybe you to have some Balkans traces in yourself. As for decent people, I never had a very positive opinion about them, but that's completely another topic. I just think insults, underestimations and collective labeling should be avoided on this project. So much from me on this topic, and without any cynicism I want you all the best.--MirkoS18 (talk) 04:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

• Belated comment: In UK articles, where the Welsh language is official only in Wales, we would give the Welsh name in articles on places in Wales, but not in those on English places. I don't know if that helps. Where minority language speakers form say over 20% of the population of the location, it would seem reasonable to include that version. Otherwise maybe not. Johnbod (talk) 15:09, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

infobox question

I would like to apply an infobox to several articles, but am not sure which template qualifies for these articles. They are:

• Hobart Area Transportation Study
• Southern Transport Investment Program
• Metropolitan Adelaide Transport Study
• 1969 Melbourne Transportation Plan

All of the above are articles on published Transportation plans undertaken in their respective cities. kind regards, Wiki ian 09:40, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

what information would go in the infobox? Frietjes (talk) 16:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Something like Template:Infobox legislation maybe, or Template:Infobox court case? --Izno (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

A Template:Infobox study of some sort? We wouldn't want to restrict it to simply transportation studies. --Izno (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Marriage template

I don't know if this has been discussed or not, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating something someone has already said but is there anyway to put in (present) for the couples that are still together, it looks weird and not uniform when an infobox looks like:

John Doe (m. 1993 - 1999)

Bob Dole (m. 2000)

can't the template be updated to have (present) put in there? Like this:

John Doe (m. 1993 - 1999)

Bob Dole (m. 2000 - present)

I think it would look better and nicer. Is there any way we could change this? Lady Lotus (talk) 23:30, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Just noting that this is also being discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Templates#Marriage template. — Bility (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Routine use of infoboxes for biographical articles

I revised the following paragraph today so that it read as follows:

Although infoboxes are routinely used for certain types of articles such as biographies, the use of infoboxes is neither required nor prohibited for any particular article. Whether to include an infobox, which infobox to include, and which parts of the infobox to use, is determined through discussion and consensus among the editors at each individual article.

My revision was reverted, and I'd appreciate knowing why it isn't useful to state the fact that infoboxes are routinely used for certain types of articles such as biographies since that is the case. NinaGreen (talk) 02:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)