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Birmingham music

28 August 2013 - Kurhaus Wiesbaden - Rheingau Musik Festival

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky: Romeo and Juliet
Edward Elgar: Cello Concerto
Antonín Dvořák: Symphony No. 8 (Dvořák)

Sol Gabetta (pictured)
City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra
Andris Nelsons

Did you know ... that Ben Gunn, imprisoned 32 years for killing a friend when he was 14, earned a Master of Arts degree in peace and reconciliation? (History 2 September 2013)

Let us not forget that even one book, one pen, one teacher can change the world Opening of the Library of Birmingham on 3 September 2013

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This editor won the Million Award for bringing Franz Kafka to Featured Article status.

Welcome!

Hello, Gerda Arendt, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Graham Waterhouse, may not conform to some of Misplaced Pages's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted. ... --> Again, welcome! Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

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Flowers and sapphires

Go Gerda Girl

You do great work and I love it! Don't let Tony get to you. Ihre Arbeit ist grossartig. Weiter schreiben, eien lange Zeit. PS, I really liked the article about the church the communists blew up. BarkingMoon (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC) Sehr geehrte Gerda, I have a watch on your page since a few weeks ago. I approved and moved 167 to holding for June 24.BarkingMoon (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Keine Problem. Koennen Sie ueberpruefen DYK Noel F. Parrish? Danke. BarkingMoon (talk) 12:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Later, yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

See my talk page. Thanks so much! BarkingMoon (talk) 11:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

On 30 December 2011 the article became a GA, thanks to Ched, PumpkinSky and MathewTownsend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Flowers!

	Wonderful comment
	For your wonderful comment, cutting right to the heart of the matter! cmadler (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

For a true gem of a person ...

	words of reason and trust
	To quote you: Thank you for speaking up with decency and fairness, treating editors as living people, — Ched : ? 15:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

German-English

You asked for an English translation of "uneinsichtig, unbelehrbar und beratungsresistent". Without consulting a dictionary, I translate those words as "uninsightful, unteachable, and resistant to advice", but there may be a more nuanced or idiomatic meaning that I am missing. The single English word that comes to mind to describe that set of characteristics is "pig-headed" (that is probably not an English word you know, but I think it is a word you will enjoy). I also think of the Misplaced Pages item WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT.

Your English is much better than my Deutsch, so I am happy when I can help you expand your knowledge. I didn't respond on the page where you asked the question because I think it is a bad idea to continue the argument ("bickering") there. Also, I think it is best to avoid making accusations against people, because that often makes people angry, while failing to help them see the problem. (See Misplaced Pages:Avoid personal remarks.) --Orlady (talk) 14:54, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I certainly enjoyed the new word and your sensible way of handling the case. I just asked words, didn't I? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but "pig-headed" has more negative connotations than "hard-headed" or "stubborn". I will not choose a term to apply to this situation, per one of the above cited policies. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:20, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Learning, thank you! (Just approved your Aku hook), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

"impervious" rings a bell: "impervious to pain, up to a certain point" (The Fountainhead), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Orlady, einsicht is indeed insight or understanding, but in this context uneinsichtig is nearer to "unreasonable". I suggest "unreasonable, incorrigible, and impervious to advice". Pig-headed is good. Moonraker (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for more insight, on top of your brilliant idiomatic translation of the 1715 text about the (equal) skills of females to study, see above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Cherry Impact event barnstar

		The Cherry Impact Event Award
		I hereby award Gerda Arendt this Cherry Impact Event Award for the global impact your incredibly delightful sweetness and extraordinary talent brings to all of us! . – Dreadstar † 07:01:00, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Standing Strong

	When the Ill Winds Blow No Good
	I saw this image and thought of you and all you've done to help PS and Khazar. You are a bastion of refuge when the storm clouds come in, and I for one would like to thank you. Don't worry about people talking behind your back - as they say, "sticks and stones". Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

uh, a tree for you

	Tree award? These have to be "awards"?
	Hi, Gerda. I was editing Desivojca, and it has this nice tree photo from the "Komani neighborhood", so I figured it should be seen more. Enjoy. Alarbus (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I do, I love trees! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For believing in the goodness of people above all. For having faith and being willing to work on a cause that seemed hopeless. MathewTownsend (talk) 23:27, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

AMEN to that! Gerda is one of the kindest, most decent people I've ever met. In this case, wiki-met, not met in person, though I'd love to do that one day.PumpkinSky talk 11:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, yes, please, all of it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

— Ched : ? 00:37, 16 April 2012 (UTC) Like

The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence

		The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence
		I am pleased to award this MBE to you in recognition of your outstanding work on Misplaced Pages. Your numerous DYKs have achieved the noble goal of highlighting culture on the Main Page. Your work with other users is exemplary, and you're one of the nicest Wikipedians, always supporting and encouraging other users. Thanks for all of your superb contributions! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! - I was tempted to say "Blushing", but every time I say so the user is gone a week later, I don't want to miss you also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

ps: I would like to share this award with my br'er Rabbit, the incarnation of selfless service to this project ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Your not saying it seems to have worked – it's been a week and I'm still here! I just finished my latest article (my first in a long time). It's about an artist who was born and raised in Germany and was very interested in music. For some reason, that made me think of you.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:01, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

I didn't say it, as much as I was tempted! - Thanks for staying with me, and for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Knock on wood, as I blushed as well recently ;) Muggeseggele is still facing extinction while the Mans parking was guided so well to DYK by our fairy maiden - Glückauf Serten (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

You found #1, I blushed three more times, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

nice edit notice ;)

Mads Lange

A Halloween present from Wikipediocracy on my eighth anniversary. Best wishes. Mads Lange (talk) 09:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

'tis the season

nice comment, peace maker - I pass free treats today, Reformation, even the Bach cantata got a pumpkin + I like sharing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

"There Was an Old Woman Who Lived in a Shoe"

You mentioned this article on my talk page earlier. The reason I did a bit of work on it was partly because it was pretty poor, but more selfishly I wanted to start an article on the topic of concealed shoes, and I didn't it want it to be immediately tagged as an orphan; I hate those tags. I've emailed Northampton Museum asking if someone from there could take a look at the article, and it would be good if you and/or your talk-page stalkers could have a quick look through as well, to see if there's anything that could do with a bit more explanation. I'm not asking for any kind kind of formal review, just a quick eyeball to see if there's anything obviously missing, or that doesn't make sense.

Cheers! (Yes, I've had a couple of glasses of wine, and perhaps you'll join me. I find it helps the creative juices to flow. ;-) ) George Ponderevo (talk) 19:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, will look but not soon, want to get Fauré's Requiem to presentable until the composer appears as TFA on 4 November, translate a Bach cantata to German until Saturday and Der Handschuh asap, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Would you like me to take a look as well? Malleus Fatuorum 19:56, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Sure, all of them ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

OK, later. Have to warn you though that I'm not really a Wikipedian, have never been a Wikipedian, and I scare away women, children and new editors. Allegedly. But I'll try and be gentle. Malleus Fatuorum 20:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

matching my Category:Wikipedians who are not part of The Community --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Brains Work Better Barnstar

		The 'Brains Work Better in A Community' Award
		You and I walk on the same side of the street. Thank you for all your efforts to befriend and assist your fellow Wikipedian Editors (WE). Bottom line: WE are all living breathing people that desire love. Your efforts have a cascading effect throughout WP. What's so bad about Peace, Love and Understanding? ```*Buster Seven* *Talk* 01:42, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, blushing again. (See above, not afraid that you will leave within a week ;) Thanks to Elen for the colour.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year Gerda

Dear Gerda, I am too busy thinking about all sorts of silly things and forgot to send you a greeting for the New Year, if such things amuse you. At any rate I'm glad to see you are still here and have not been distracted by the Wikifollies (!) I saw The Hobbit (film) on IMAX 3-d the other day and thought it was awesome. Snow is settling on Ipswich tonight so it all looks very pretty by streetlight, if cold underfoot. I hope you have yet another brilliant year in WP and of course (far more important) a brilliant year in the Reality (whatever you construe that to be) which is The Great Outside... If there is such a thing as a Jahresentwicklung I hope that yours will be frohlich. - Season's greetings, (Steven) Eebahgum (talk) 23:49, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Steven, I appreciate your personal thoughts and wish you no less than the same! - I didn't send "individual" greetings but had Christmas music on my user, - a remnant is still there now like a motto: "ban complaining". It's not the same as "ban mourning", - look above and for sing praises ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:07, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Defender of the Integrity of Misplaced Pages

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		Dear Gerda, it's always a struggle trying to defend the integrity of Misplaced Pages as a real encyclopedia, against the COMMONNAME philistines who keep wanting to dumb it down instead of redirecting to correct article titles. I'm awed by your efforts. Milkunderwood (talk) 22:39, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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Legend

I like your ] legend.
All the best! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:20, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks should go to Wehwalt, who took the photo - thinking of a legend - and coined the phrase on his user, - perhaps I should credit him but thought the pic would tell those whose "inquiring mind wants to know", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Ha, ha! Excellent! –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 14:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

... and this is my real name ... never could understand the reason for a nom de plume ... but then it would be absurd to imagine that it is not my name –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 21:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Andreas Scholl

I've finished with the lead now Gerda, hope you think it does the subject justice. Ironically, now that the lead's been expanded, I much prefer the uncollapsed infobox (I might even prefer no infobox at all in this case, but that's a separate story). The length of the infobox vs. the length of the lead is a factor that seems to have been largely ignored in all of the recent "discussions". Malleus Fatuorum 04:59, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! (This is without looking yet, I trust your quality.) - Did you see that I took the picture (not the lead, the other)? Same day as the one of another church where he appeared and you liked. I will not touch the infobox until the "collapse discussion is over", see talk. - There should be more in it, will look into that later, see talk. - A good infobox should draw the interest of someone who just came to find one fact into reading the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I only looked at the lead Gerda. May I ask you a personal question? Is Gerda Arendt your real name? If you're suspicious about why I'm asking you then just email me and I'll explain, nothing sinister I promise. Malleus Fatuorum 07:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

If I was a suspicious person I would not write under my real name ;) - if you have time, go over the rest, - if you look at the history, you will see that it was started by a devotee, ready to mention every note he sang, I dropped a lot of that but a bit more of one style would be great. You won't believe how many people crowded our concert just to hear him. He said he would come again (about the highest praise a church choir can receive) but has no time for the next one, David Erler will sing alto then, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

The reason I asked was because I'm thinking of adding my real name to my user page. I feel foolish editing under a pseudonym like "Malleus Fatuorum", and if my real name isn't already bagged I may request a change. Either way, I think a little more openness might go a long way. Malleus Fatuorum 07:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Good idea! - Good luck! (You will need it, because as far as I know Andy Mabbett tried the same, but was not permitted to change, that's how his signature got so long.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll see if my real name is available. Back on the subject of Scholls though, I've heard some old recordings of castrati. Can he really reach those high notes with his balls still in place? Malleus Fatuorum 07:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

There were soprano castrati and alto. He can singer everything alto, your recordings may be soprano. There are males who can those also. - His wonderful event for the Rheingau Musik Festival - 3 concerts in 3 churches in one day will be repeated this year (different programs and one church different)! - That festival could also use a better lead ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

ps:for name changes, ask 28bytes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

What do you think about the castrato article? Malleus Fatuorum 08:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

no time, need to talk to ArbCom and go to church ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Your friend

I'm sorry to hear of your loss. I hope you can find comfort in happy memories. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. - The funeral was yesterday, dear friends flew in from the US and are with us, - most important. There's always time for data, but not people, thanks for understanding that! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

ps: he participated in writing this, but died gently from a stroke. If I wrote an article (but I know to little about his scientific accomplishments) it would be the forth for a friend who died, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about this Gerda, who was it?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for sending me the sapphire for fighting with love! I really appreciate that and all your help with Josiah Gregg who finally made it to the front page of DYK last night! I learned so much during this DYK nomination; the last four were almost too easy, but they were for articles I wrote from nothing to finished. This one got in trouble I think because of the old editor having issues with some other editors ... fortunately all past now. I think I will go back to editing California State Senate districts, rearranging Commons photos, or something in the shadows for a while. I have a couple of other articles to start that are already in lists of museums and lists of historic buildings, but there is so little published secondary material about things in Humboldt County, California that it is difficult to get more than a stub. Again thank you for the award, it really cheered me up this morning! I thank you again for all your help with our troublesome explorer who may or may not have fallen from a horse (or a mule) before or after his demise. The "Mad River" was most appropriately named I think. Cheers!! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks ;) Do you know the photographer of the Yogo sapphire? He's working on Montana, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't know User:Montanabw yet, he seems like a very nice person! I am mostly working on far northwestern California which is that bump that sticks out in the Pacific Ocean because of the Mendocino Triple Junction. It is a very wild area with steep mountains and many rivers - much like the part of Montana that the sapphires are from, but of lower coastal elevation! Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Two authors mainly worked on the sapphire (a great example of teamwork, look at the history), PumpkinSky took the photo - the model for my award. I think its not a secret that both are my friends ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for the message of human support on my talk page and the beautiful precious stone you gave me there. A person's Infobox is a very common feature in most WP pages I know. It is almost a basic feature of historic person's pages on WP. I don't understant the opposition to it on the Handel page. It should be trivial IMO. In any case, thanks again. It is nice to start to follow the work of another awesome Wikpedian more closely. Keep up the great work you do here! warshy 18:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thought you deserve at least this much for all the help and support you gave me, right from my very first moment, oh and by the way I'm Back in action!!! Thanks once again for all Everything! The Wikimon (talk) 13:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, feels good! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

You don't seem too pleased to see me back... Anyways, Misplaced Pages servers must be working over time. I'm am unable to keep a page open for even a minute before reloading it. Nothing is opening quickly, links are slow and its pissing me off. Are you suffering from the same problem??? Its a real fist clenching anger!!! The Wikimon (talk) 14:16, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint you. Look at my talk: I rarely use an exclamation mark, you got one! Read further, I miss friends, dead or gone, I have arguments with people I respect ... - No, loading is normal, normally slow, that is. - I get ready for Good Friday, and hope for Easter (we celebrate Monday also), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	This is for your continuing work on the Bach Cantatas, in particular Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22 which I just chose as this month's Christian art in the Icthus Gilderien Chat\|List of good deeds 01:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I feel honoured, and encouraged to tackle the St Matthew Passion and the Mass in B minor as long term goals, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Easter music

Great choices! :) We did the Palestrina Sicut cervus too, and K. 194, and... a bunch of Anglican stuff that I don't remember :P ~ Riana ⁂ 06:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I am so grateful to my conductors! We (my first infobox!) will sing the Sparrow Mass in less than two hours in rehearsal (the only one with the orchestra), one hour later in the service. The others were last night, + smaller works. Happy Easter, to everyone reading this! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:21, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

"Kommt, eilet und laufet". Frohe Ostern, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

thanks for coming! (to another article with an infobox) - to you, too!

ANI Notice

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jus da fax 05:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Your first, my first, responded ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

When articles for individual performers, individual works, and even individual albums, can all have an infobox, I am still quite amazed that the article for a composer (and musician) as monumental as J. S. Bach should not be deemed worthy of an infobox. Is the argument that they "all look just the same"? Or is it just that he's so imporatnt that he transcends such mundane trivia? Regards, Martinevans123 (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

It's not Bach, it's an almost religious belief that "boxing" people is trivialising them, since 2005, look. I am sad that several good editors lost patience, last GFHandel, you know who before, - but my first barnstar was for resilience ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

infoboxes for classical music composers

Καλό Πάσχα, Gerda!
I do think articles for composers and their works should have infoboxes. That said, I am saddened by what is going on here. Listening to Glenn Gould's 1981 recording of the Goldberg Variations right now, and wishing the whole mess hadn't happened. Ma è la via del mondo. Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I was told it went on since 2005, - at least it was told well: Did you know that L'infobox infernale (The Hellish Infobox), an opera semiseria in 25 acts, is the longest running opera ever staged on Misplaced Pages? - A look at the proposed {{Infobox opera}}, especially its sample, is a good way to cheer up! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The infobox saga seems more like a soap opera some days! LOL! ;-) Montanabw 16:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Holzhausenschlösschen

I'm not quite sure I'm understanding this: "The Holzhausen family, one of the most important families of the free imperial city Frankfurt from 1245 ...". Is that saying that in 1245, for whatever reason, the Holzhausen family joined the ranks of Frankfurt's most important families? Or is it saying that Frankfurt became a free imperial city in 1245? It's the mention of that very specific year that's puzzling; in 1245 something happened that resulted in the Holzhausen family becoming one of the most important in Frankfurt? Malleus Fatuorum 10:12, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

We should probably untangle an overly long sentence. The source says "Von 1245-1923 gehörte sie zu den angesehensten Familien Frankfurts.", belonged to the most respected (?) families of Frankfurt. Frankfurt was a Freie Reichsstadt (without nobility) before. The fact about the builder trying to imitate the lifestyle of nobility is - unfortunately - in none of the online sources, the de-author will have gotten it from one of the books. The year doesn't have to be mentioned if the period can be described well. - Thanks for looking, I am uneasy about architecture terms! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I can hardly tell my corbels from my corbusier, so I'm just as uneasy as you are about architectural terms. Malleus Fatuorum 11:22, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Nicely put. I am not sure about garbed roofs and such. Should I ask Giano, although it seems not palacy enough, compared to his? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

It's well worth asking Giano, I've always found him to be very helpful. I'm not at all sure about that Mansard roof for instance, doesn't look like what I'd call a Mansard roof ... Malleus Fatuorum 12:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

One needs a long course in architecture to understand half the articles with architectural references on here. The average Listed Building articles is written in gobbledygook.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Only semi-gobbledygook. It's the maths articles that make full use of gobbledygook. Malleus Fatuorum 12:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

True.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I just learned the term here, with a link! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

If everyone followed your example this would be a much finer community, and we wouldn't have the problem with editor retention we do. But anyway -- just wanted to say thanks. Please continue! Antandrus (talk) 14:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, blushing again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Gerda. Thanks for the kind thoughts. Over the past few days, I've been finding out that, like many things, editing Misplaced Pages requires constant practice. We (ok, mostly you) created a lot of composer articles for the Munich Biennale, and now I have to work hard to remember everything that needs done. Let's see how I get on with creating Nikolay Strelnikov ... Scarabocchio (talk) 22:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! Content, content, content - don't like ANI, - der Himmel lacht --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Template:Bullying

You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Bullying#This reversion. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)Template:Z48

Sorry, not my music, it's BWV 103 right now, for an absent friend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh that's all right. I really hate to see good editors (such as myself, having done 10 good articles and over 10 featured articles) leave the project. My music is And did those feet in ancient times, also for Dreadstar. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

See impact, if you can (and I thought I could archive it) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

speaking of impact, see also: balls or "Pumpkin in the sky with diamonds", 18 April 2012, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. You're such a sweetheart. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:12, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

By the way, is it possible to work on the Frederic Chopin article or the Benjamin Britten article? And before I go, do note that I have an exceptionally low tolerance for uncalled for disrespect over trivial matters or being involved in any dispute. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:04, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I have the beloved composers on my watchlist, guess I need a translation for your tolerance issue ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, having been involved with the project over 6 years, over 50,000 edits and have had at least a few successful GANs (without all of the Wiki-drama) and at least 6 successful FA nominations but guess what: it seems that Dreadstar is back! Meanwhile, I am working on Benjamin Britten in my sandbox. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I am happy that Dreadstar cut his "vacation" short ;) - I still don't know what you mean by "exceptionally low tolerance for uncalled for disrespect over trivial matters or being involved in any dispute", regarding me. I am in several disputes, see Classical music or Bach ;) - A piece by Britten is on the to do list on my user, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes no is the best answer.

I saw your question to user:The Interior. I am happy to tell you that no is the answer. I had noticed this edit in relative real time and was very quick to respond. I started to email you and ask that you post a message; actually writing the email. But I didn't send it because I didn't want to orchestrate sincerity. I am so very glad to see that you arrived on your own, and even more delighted to see that you had already made a day precious in this user's name; for clearly they are. Just as you are still awesome. My76Strat (talk) 08:51, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

good news, yes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

	Love the shirt!
	Just got the shirt through the Merchandise Giveaway Programme. Thanks for your vote of confidence! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:39, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Becoming! (Much better than "Mourning becomes ...") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

First ever Wiki Angel Award

		The Wiki Angel Award
		Gerda, es macht mich glücklich, dir den ersten Wiki Angel Award geben. Du bist ein true Wiki Angel und feine Dame.PumpkinSky talk 18:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

This is awesome ... wish I would have thought of it. :) — Ched : ? 18:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!!! (blushing again, see above) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Words are not enough

	Angel of sweet kindness
	Your support while I was having a rough time and then your warm welcome back upon my return are indescribably heartwarming and most welcome...thank you! Dreadstar ☥ 15:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I hope you realise that I was selfish: I wanted you to stay! I see too many who give up or find better things to do. Feel free to join my red cat, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Sir Adrian

Gerda, what a pleasing note from you on my talk page! You are too kind, but I walk a little taller for that beautifully-phrased compliment. Tim riley (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Huge Heart Barnstar.
		For all the kindness that you show to your fellow editors, User:Keilana has said that you, Gerda, deserve this award.

Thank you so much, also for taking care of all those women scientists! How many hits did your "organ"-related DYK get? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC) ps: checked myself, 15,299, congrats! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC) Thoroughly deserved!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:24, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

You are a Golden Editor!

	Good as gold!
	For all the times you have brightened someone's day by declaring them 'Precious', you are a Golden Editor. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 02:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, precious! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Opera days

Dear Gerda, If you haven't used it yet you might get a reference to May Night by R. Korsakov in about now!! Not that we are having any May nights, they feel more like February mornings. I have a fine old recording of this opera with Sergei Lemeshev, great stylist that he was. About 1950. Nothing like a drowned fairy or two to cheer up an opera. Eebahgum (talk) 20:57, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Good idea ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Done! - Feel free to help me, finding them and inserting yourself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I fear I am too lazy to engage with that aspect of wikipedia. Eebahgum (talk) 22:20, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

For me, that's the sweet part of the day, no conflict, no fear, free choice ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorrow

I noticed your appreciation of Sorrow. The article was written as part of this collaboration: Misplaced Pages:GLAM/NAGW. We're also using QRpedia, so translation of articles into German (or other languages) would be most welcome! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I have it in the back of my mind, same for Archaeology of Kosovo, - once I need less time for straightening out the Bach composition infoboxes and once I got my promised article closer to where I want it to be, I will think of it again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Infobox with collapsible sections

		The Content Creativity Barnstar
		Thank you for being such a strong content editor -. Don't let the infobox wars and bad faith editors get to you. Your the type of editor we need more of here - :-) Moxy (talk) 03:16, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, don't be afraid, I created my red cat after learning to despise "consensus", so am here to stay, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Precious gift

Thank you so much for your very sweet gift! I'm very pleased and honored to be a recipient, and truly delighted to discover that there are people like yourself who do such things. Misplaced Pages is suddenly a much, much nicer community :) SteveStrummer (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

As you can see in the list, I had great models. On my user I keep my own, remembering the feeling, - your nice response made my day today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

There is a mop reserved in your name

You are a remarkably exemplar editor.
You would be a good administrator in my opinion, and you are qualified!
You personify an Administrator without tools, and have gained my support; already!

My76Strat (talk) 22:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the expression of trust! You are not the first to suggest that, the answer still applies. Also you must have missed how disruptive I am ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I am livid at the tone of that Wagner discussion; clearly I should avoid injecting my thoughts there; if I am able. My76Strat (talk) 23:18, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

MIA

I had no idea such a page even existed! And strange that it said vanished without notice, I had a big banner saying I was moving, had no internet, and then had little to sporadic internet, etc. Anyway, I'm happily off that list. :) Sadly, I see many names that make me wish were not on the list. :( Oh good grief, someone point me to how to make smiley faces, lol. Ariel♥Gold 03:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

You are most welcome here! - In the sad list, others missed you. - I hear you are kind of an angel! But that it was said to me also puts it in perspective ;) - We sing "Come Holy Ghost" today, see my user, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		A jewel dropping down on me is quite unexpected but much appreciated. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

All I can say is simply, you do good work! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Wagner special

Richard Wagner
Richard Wagner, 1871
Born	(1813-05-22)22 May 1813 Leipzig
Died	23 February 1883(1883-02-23) (aged 69) Venice
Occupations	composer theatre director conductor librettist founder of the Bayreuth Festival
Years active	1833–1883 1833 (1833) – 1834 (1834): Würzburg 1834 (1834) – 1836 (1836): Magdeburg 1836 (1836) – 1837 (1837): Königsberg 1837 (1837) – 1839 (1839): Riga 1839 (1839) – 1842 (1842): Paris 1842 (1842) – 1849 (1849): Dresden 1849 (1849) – 1858 (1858): Zürich 1858 (1858) – 1862 (1862): Venice 1862 (1862) – 1864 (1864): Biebrich 1864 (1864) – 1865 (1865): Munich 1865 (1865) – 1871 (1871): Lucerne 1871 (1871) – 1882 (1882): Bayreuth 1882 (1882) – 1883 (1883): Venice
Notable work	Rienzi to Parsifal 1840 (1840) Rienzi 1841 (1841) Der fliegende Holländer 1844 (1844) Tannhäuser 1848 (1848) Lohengrin 1853 (1853) Das Rheingold 1854 (1854) Die Walküre 1856 (1856) Siegfried 1857 (1857) Tristan und Isolde 1862 (1862) Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg 1868 (1868) Götterdämmerung 1876 (1876) Parsifal
Style	Romantic
Spouses	Minna Planer (1836–1866) Cosima Wagner (1870–1883)
Children	Isolde Eva Siegfried
Signature

Does it come with extra cheese and pineapple? sounds appetizing!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

If you provide them ;) - I just placed Götterdämmerung on my talk, will leave now, as promised, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Happy Wagner's Birthday! AutomaticStrikeout ? 14:22, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

It is fun! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mass in B minor structure

On 23 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mass in B minor structure, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Johann Sebastian Bach reworked music from more than three decades earlier for the central piece Crucifixus in the symmetrical structure of his Mass in B minor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mass in B minor structure. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice Surprise

I am honored! Thank you for your kind words, and for making Misplaced Pages a better place. Ewulp (talk) 04:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Now I am honored! Some may think I make it worse, trying to apply infoboxes, an accessibility tool. Some think a box disfigures an article. What will they think about a ramp for people in wheelchairs for a building? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

The lede and the TOC are ramps; an infobox is unfortunately very often a detour, a treacherous ramp that leads to the wrong information. Users who have difficulty reading a lede paragraph or utilizing a table of contents are better served by Simple English Misplaced Pages than by a table of field-value pairs. Surely you will agree! I encourage you to join the battle against the infobox blight. Ewulp (talk) 08:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Battle? Sounds frightening ;) - I go for Reformation, see link to "amore e studio elucidandae" on my user, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for the gemstone!

Bearian (talk) 16:28, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks from me too! Ruhrfisch _><>° 03:55, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for your kind words.

And you did notice that I occasionally(?) challenge the status quo. Yeah, I'm not a follower. HiLo48 (talk) 09:54, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Nor am I - only supposed to be one (found in the WP:Great Dismal Swamp in the last few hours: "some of those in his train play these silly games", "that the spirit of the master temporarily in exile has found a worthy inheritor") ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar of Integrity

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		For your support during the recent unpleasantness. PumpkinSky talk 22:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Franz Kafka

This is a note to let the main editors of Franz Kafka know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on July 3, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or one of his delegates (Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs)), or start a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/July 3, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Franz Kafka (1883–1924) was a German-language writer of novels and short stories, and is regarded as one of the most influential authors of the 20th century. His works, such as "Die Verwandlung" ("The Metamorphosis"), Der Process (The Trial), and Das Schloss (The Castle), are filled with themes and archetypes of alienation, brutality, parent–child conflict, and mystical transformations. Kafka was born into a middle-class Jewish family in Prague, then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He trained as a lawyer and worked for an insurance company, writing in his spare time – he complained all his life about his lack of time to write. Kafka wrote hundreds of letters to family and close female friends, including his fiancée Felice Bauer. Only a few of Kafka's stories appeared during his lifetime in story collections and literary magazines. His novels and other unfinished works were published posthumously, mostly by his friend Max Brod, who ignored his wish to have the manuscripts destroyed. Albert Camus and Jean-Paul Sartre are among the writers influenced by Kafka's work; the term Kafkaesque has entered the English language to describe surreal situations like those in his writing. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The Company of Heaven

Good grief, Gerda! You expose me as a fraud. Here I am presuming to get BB up to FAC standard and I've never, as far as I remember, even heard of "The Company of Heaven". I shall go and do a spot of homework. Tim riley (talk) 22:43, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

It's a radio feature on angels, much more spoken than music, and forgotten until 1990, - no wonder you don't know it ;) - we performed it in 2001, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Duly researched. I've added a few bits and pieces. Do trim my additions if you think I've gone on too much. I shall seek out a recording. Tim riley (talk) 13:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Great, I will look later, no time right now. The spoken voices in the battle music are a feature worthy of DYK, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Good! Glad you approve. I don't think I can add more, and I imagine that the DYK (a process that is terra incognita for me) will probably have to be written off. Tim riley (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Fine with me, - I hear the music now, #9 a cappella, very difficult for a lay choir, very beautiful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I see the article has made it to DYK. By what sorcery you accomplish this, my dear Gerda, I know not, but I congratulate you. Tim riley (talk) 21:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

You can't survive here without a little bit of magic ;) - In this case I found a reviewer who didn't take teh rulez by the letter but the spirit and said is was new enough. - Did you see (below) that I received an opera house? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I did. I had my own for 15 minutes last Saturday. Between 10 and 10.15 I was appointed doorkeeper at the Royal Opera House for the Frederick Ashton Wikibash. The feeling of power and importance was almost overwhelming. With which opera shall you be opening your new opera house? Tim riley (talk) 21:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Gianni Schicchi ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

We're not that far apart: I'd choose Falstaff. The Company of Heaven article is looking in excellent shape now. An unusual example of a new article to which quite a few editors have contributed almost simultaneously to good effect. Sometimes such things can be a a case of "too many cooks spoil the broth", but not here. I am still working on the main Benjamin Britten article, where, naturally, any additions or amendments you care to add will be most welcome. Tim riley (talk) 15:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

I'm not by there very often, but today I saw the recent kerfluffle at AN/I and thought you could use some sweets. Lest you think this is all selfless, though, I brought a second fork. Care to split it? -- Khazar2 (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, sweet of you, - I would share with Andy first if his doctors allow. Day by day I hope the thread autoarchives (havn't looked today), - I am sure his doctors allow no stress ;) . Did you see the list of 18 discussions "drowning" a project? - Everybody who takes an unbiased look is welcome to share the baklava! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Kindness

Bless you for that ;) -- Cassianto 09:59, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I like to watch that archive grow, full of people who otherwise seem to live on different stars ;) - feel free to also share some baklava above --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Alas, there are only two forks (I'll use my fingers!) -- Cassianto 17:54, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I always use my fingers for baklava, you can have mine, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

The Mind the Gap Barnstar

...is awarded to User:Gerda Arendt who has diligently worked to change the Conversation on Misplaced Pages and related projects through content contributions, outreach, community changes and related actions. Your efforts are changing the very face of Misplaced Pages...for the better! ```Buster Seven Talk 19:31, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

		Mind the Gap Award
		For saying the right thing, at the right time, in the right place, to the right people.

I feel honoured, but did you investigate enough? I came to consider "disruptive" a compliment ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The "If I had the time I'd make a Wikilove thingy with a pretty picture, but I'm lazy so instead you'll have to settle for text" Barnstar

Hi Gerda,

I saw your note on my talk page. Thanks for the kind words, and for being so refreshingly pleasant and un-bitter all the time. An inspiration to us all. I'm sure I'll see you around eventually, but probably won't be for a while yet. Enjoying my time away. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I enjoy refreshing apparitions, also I am in a good mood, after singing Bach for more than two hours, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Some advice

Hi Gerda, a word of advice. I think trying to start a new discussion every day at the main OP discussion page for a new article's infobox probably isn't a good idea. It's going to make the OP page huge, especially if you paste the whole box in for every single article. In 7 days the page is going to contain 7 infoboxes and take longer and longer to load, with a huge amount of white space. Perhaps more importantly, you are probably not going to get considered or constructive responses that way, and you run the risk of alienating some members by swamping the page like that. There's a lot of infobox fatigue at the moment. I am personally taking a complete vacation from the issue. I would suggest that if you want to add one a day but want to discuss it first, then host the infobox you are proposing in your user space, start a discussion on the actual talk page of the article and link to the box in your user space. Then leave a short note at the OP as a "heads up" to editors. If any of them want to comment, they'll go to the talk page of the article. If no one comments on the talk page after a while, go ahead and add the box. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't plan to start a new discussion every day, but discuss one to a satisfactory end. Joseph was disappointing. There will be no other infobox on OP until that one is discussed and archived, and I am not even adding another one to an opera article. Did you see that I took one to user space? - So thank you for the advice, but I think I took it already. (I still fail to understand how 4 vs 2 votes within one day can be called a "clear consensus". I don't feel fatigue at all, I feel great eagerness and a rush to delete. Even if you are on "vacation" for the topic, can you explain to some what replacing the bottom navbox by the side navbox means? I don't have polite words for that, - restored it anyway.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I thought when you said "first try one infobox a day", you meant start a new discussion every day about a new article's infobox. I guess you meant discuss one article and its box and then when that discussion is over, archive it and start the next one? That might work. But I still think it would be much better and more transparent for those kinds of discussions to take place on the article's talk page, with just a note on the OP page. First of all, the project as a collective isn't/can't be the one to definitively decide individual article issues like that (at least two edtitors strongly opposed at Joseph aren't OP members, for one thing). Secondly, if it's on the article's talk page, there's a much clearer permanent record of the discussion easily available to all people who edit or read the article in the future.

I can understand your disappointment re the way things are going at Joseph, but I'm afraid that's going to happen a lot. Many editors, especially in the arts, feel very strongly about the issue and they're all motivated by what they think is best for the article and the reader. As for explaining to people about footer navboxes... they understand what they are and are aware that there's duplication or overlap in some cases, but in their opinion it doesn't matter or they prefer to have the vertical navbox. By the way I think I may have found Act 1 of L'infobox infernale (tragedia lirica in 25 acts), Misplaced Pages's longest running opera. Quite an impressive display it is too, with several palpitating scenes and multiple renditions of "Nessuno è padrone delle voci!" sung by opposing regiments of guerrieri delle modifiche. :) Voceditenore (talk) 16:08, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I said "first try one infobox a day" in the morning, - you know what happened in the afternoon, and I didn't update ;) - Evening plan: when one discussion is over (and perhaps changes made to the template), start a different genre/type, - we will see. I suggest we let Louise be discussed on the OP talk in the open, from then on follow the procedure you described. Thank you for history, see below for shouting male chorus in battle, - I confess some pleasure making that known. I will not speak about editors who arrive at a scene fast, such as BWV 30, - look for baklava above, feel free to share fingerfood. You are precious, even when tired. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for The Company of Heaven

On 25 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Company of Heaven, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that The Company of Heaven, Benjamin Britten's 1937 composition for speakers, soloists, choir and orchestra, contains "metrical spoken (shouted) male chorus"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Company of Heaven. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

An Opera House for you!

File:Daegu Operahouse.jpg	An Opera House for you!
	Thank you for your review of Costanzo Antegnati and the extra work you put in to improve the article. I now understand what you meant by your question in the dyk review. Yes, I prefer to be coy, as these are the types of hooks that tend to draw me in. However, I truly am open to suggestions on how to create better hooks. All the best, 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 17:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Did you know that I love opera? See above for the longest running one in 25 acts ;) - Your hook was great, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned (now), you can have an infobox where you are the main editor, assuming no consensus against it, etc. But: it might not be exactly as you want it, and I'd like not to have one without discussion first where I am a main author. Can we work with that? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:21, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

We can work this out, in fact I think I behaved that way already. I didn't dream of adding one to "your" Bach cantatas (see above under Opera house, I hate fighting), and I was tempted SO much to add one to the Company of Heaven but resisted, because you started it ;) - Can we add please to "articles where I am the main editor" those done in collaboration where I am the "infobox person" for a group (Dr. Blofeld, Riana ...)? For BWV 30, I think it's tricky to decide authorship, we leave it "your way" and talk again next year? St. John's Day is over, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure. Another question, while I'm here: you said you see infoboxes as an accessibility tool. Can you explain what that means to you? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:01, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Keep watching my new place for thoughts, comments on the talk please, - I am just returning and have a few other threads first, and a watch list of 10k+, no rush, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Support — Ched : ? 10:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

An Opera composer for you!

An Opera composer for you!

For outstanding assitance with numerous questions, translation, and outstanding all-around wikicitizenship, I hereby award you this Opera composer award!

78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 21:29, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

The first musician yet in my collection, thank you, my pleasure, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Kafka works

On 3 July 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Franz Kafka works, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that translators of Franz Kafka's works must cope with ambiguous words like Verkehr, which refers both to traffic and sexual intercourse? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Franz Kafka works. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Precious

	My precious
	Congratulations on the Franz Kafka TFA!! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Beautiful! Do you also give one to PumpkinSky? He also reached 100 DYK today with a triple, - you of all people would be the one to give him that award (I did 25) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Franz Kafka all time top TFA!!!

768,586 hits

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/Most viewed

WP:TOP25

YEE HAW, CONGRATS GERDA PumpkinSky talk 01:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow! That is amazing!User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 02:40, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Gerda, Guten Morgen, input here please PumpkinSky talk 02:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Der Morgen ist gut! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

ps: Franz Kafka works made the DYKstats, my first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

DOUBLE CONGRATS! PumpkinSky talk 10:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow that's impressive! I wonder why it had more hits than any though!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:01, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

didn't you use google yesterday? link to press on top of my user ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I use Firefox which has a search bar in the top right corner and have google books built into my wiki itinery and other websites like youtube and ebay I regularly are in the url bar section so no, I rarely see the home search page of google.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:12, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Unlike this Main page, the "doodle" appears on the top left of every (!) search, - read that article, it has a good image, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations to you both for this impressive result. I still say that this is one of the best FA's on the encyclopaedia. -- Cassianto 11:17, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

thank you, that means a lot from you, writer of excellent ones, - plus you saying this about one with an infobox ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I know! I had to go and have a lie down after saying that ;) Not even an infobox could ruin this one for me. -- Cassianto 00:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Casasianto. We really appreciate that. I also think Yogo sapphire is quite good. PumpkinSky talk 11:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

It is. This article brings back fond memories for me. -- Cassianto 00:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

"Logic may indeed be unshakeable, but it cannot withstand a woman who is determined to live. Where was the judge she had never seen? Where was the High Court she had never reached? She raised her hands and spread out all her fingers. But the hands of one of the men closed round her throat, just as the other drove the knife deep into her heart and turned it twice." Only kidding... congrats "Gerda K". Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

"determined", yes (remember my red cat?) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Like Hugs! Montanabw 17:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
What, almost a million hits... How does that feel, Gerda? Drmies (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow...*salute* Double sharp (talk) 15:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	You have plenty of barnstars, but I still don't think you receive the recognition that you deserve. Cheers! Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciated, You made my day! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		for being such a great encourager! Bermicourt (talk) 17:07, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, very kind, feels good, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:52, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Infobox case request post

Hi Gerda... Thanks for the thanks on the ArbCom case page, but what was it for? Did you just like my contribution, or ...? Sorry, but I'm confused. EdChem (talk) 10:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I liked your contribution, because I could not have written it better, both in wording and in my position, - well, I could make a list of the attributions I received in a few talks but don't want to look backwards, it's a waste of time ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks - it's always nice to hear that a contribution is appreciated. :) EdChem (talk) 12:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

For more bemusement, you could (better not in the case) analyse the edit summaries of Wagner. Quite astonishing, that whole completely unnecessary discussion about an infobox meant to stay on the talk page, isn't it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Most of the thread was pointless, I wonder if I'd just find the edit summaries more depressing. EdChem (talk) 13:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK count

Don't worry about it, it isn't important. Read my notice at User:Dr. Blofeld/DYK. Whoever is worth anything on here knows what I put into articles. Above all I've always wanted to put out the message that content is more important than anything. I'll continue to update my personal list, and I thankyou for helping me update it at one stage, but I'll just list the articles not the hooks.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

"You" are a sourced key fact of Misplaced Pages, why not show it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Friedrich Meyer-Oertel.Tibetan Prayer 17:42, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I like "prayer" in your name, you grant almost before asked. If you look at Carl Moritz (architect), started by some Dr. you may know, there are some stubs the same created, theatres and a publication. I humbly ask for moar ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Staatstheater Mainz. Tibetan Prayer 21:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

TFAR

Thank you, I've tweaked the blurb a little Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:12, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, that's what I hoped. Did you know that I picked the bird by its name? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Singing whales

Thanks for stopping by with that note, Gerda. You always know just what to say. Enjoy your day at the beach (or the bay) and if you hear those whales, I hope you close your eyes and listen to the choir knowing they aren't ghosts at all. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 14:45, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the choir, sounds great, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gerda can you help

Hi Gerda,

I was just trying to make a small edit and it seemed that the entire format for editing had changed. Or so it seems, but not in this present page (ie your talk page) apparently. Rather than give up and scrap my user page (my initial reaction) I thought I would just ask. The page I wanted to edit is Wonersh. Attempting to edit I just get a horrid frame round the text and no instructions as to how to enter references etc. Has someone introduced a vile and idiotic reform? or is it just a private malfunction? Personally I work by the old axiom - 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Gad it's hot, best wishes and hope you are keeping in tune, Eebahgum (talk) 22:31, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The so-called reform is called Visual Editor (VE). You can do two things to edit normally: you go to your preferences and disable it, or you find a button (right of "edit") saying something like "edit source" and click there. (I disabled it.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I got there in the end. Have just been singing in Wales. Adapting to change becomes more difficult as time passes! Regards Eebahgum (talk) 21:42, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for the kind comments! You do great work as well! Adam Cuerden 08:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, also for being gentle on the ladies' toes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Well gee...

Never thought I'd be 'missed'. I didn't leave, per say, I just stopped making edits and removed most non-articles from my watch list. Just got sick of all the really stupid things that went on everywhere, (which I granted contributed too, especially my previous last edit), especially certain editors who seem to get away with ruining perfectly good articles because they have an adminbit or just happen to edit a lot, and decided not to bother any more...even to revert obvious vandalism. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Good to here your voice! You are missed ;) - You could join my red cat (see bottom of my user), to make more music together, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello my dearest German colleague

Gerda will you please review my post here:http://de.wikipedia.org/Benutzer_Diskussion:John_Cline and tell me if It makes any sense, and perhaps provide an answer. Here or there is fine but I am curious if Google translator came through for me or not. Thank you. :) John Cline (talk) 23:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Replied there, it's pictured here on my user, look for "this damned mess must stop", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Georg Solti

Check the talk page, re: infobox.--ColonelHenry (talk) 15:37, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Nuff, thanks. In case it's not nuff, here's a list of debated infoboxes, without / with / with shortened and/or collapsed. Should be easy to look at those which have "present" or "side navbox" in the "without" column. How much more attractive Carmen would have looked "with" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Contentious

Hey Gerda, you've said in a few different places that some edits are not "contentious". I'm wondering whether there is perhaps a difference in how we understand that word. Can you explain how you would define "contentious" (in general, not with reference to any particular case)? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:49, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

As I understood it - I may be wrong - it means that people have very different opinions about a contentious thing. I thought (back to example, easier for me), that everybody would agree that an infobox on an opera is simply and almost objectively better than a duplicated navbox in the "wrong" position leading away from the article in question. I was wrong. I thought that there was nothing debatable about an infobox on a church, - single fields yes, but not the whole thing. Wrong. - If there is a better word for what I described, please tell me, I only used this one because others used it, and I am not sure now if I interpreted it right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so there is a language thing, just not the one I thought there was - "contentious" is the right word, but is used with the wrong verb. You say, for example "Infoboxes in operas are not contentious", but we can see from multiple cases that some people do have very different opinions about their use, right? So what I think you mean is that they should not be contentious, or that you don't understand why they would be contentious, not that they aren't. Does that make sense? Nikkimaria (talk) 14:47, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, I understand better, I should have said "I didn't expect them to be contentious" or "I see no reason for them to be contentious". Waiting for input on the workshop talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I am routinely amazed that Gerda's English is often clearer and more understandable than a lot of the native speakers around here! Her search for precision and full understanding is also to be admired! Montanabw 17:27, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

And I'm routinely amazed by Gerda's gewissenhaftigkeit! (um, is that right, Gerda?) Martinevans123 (talk) 18:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, both! I like that, it's a nice pun also, "Gewissenhaftigkeit" is diligence first of all, "Gewissen" is "conscience", "gewiss" is "sure", and how I sure have a good conscience as the ally of the banned and - as some think - best to be banned is my secret and strength ;) Reach consensus! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

German question

Hi Gerda, someone has been spamming this message all over the place. Does it make any sense or is it just general nonsense/trolling? Mark Arsten (talk) 19:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can understand his German it is that apparently the German Misplaced Pages has got it wrong somehow. So even if it is not total rubbish it is an S.E.P. and can be safely deleted from the talkpages in question. If the trouble continues I recommend contacting @DerHexer: as he might be aware of a previous trackrecord at that IP range at deWiki. Agathoclea (talk) 20:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the info. Asking DerHexer sounds like a good idea. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

It says that Apollo 11 can't have happened due to calculations. No source, OR, I would say, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Certainly a longterm issue which is not limited to de & en accourding to this Agathoclea (talk) 21:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

But not as old as the Infobox wars (2005, according to reliable sources) ;) - Did you see "The Ban on Love? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

A ban on love seems a likely outcome of the Arbcom case... but if this guy has been going on about Apollo 11 since 2008 it looks like I might have to semi protect for longer. Thanks everyone! Mark Arsten (talk) 23:09, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ban on love or Götterdämmerung, Wagner has good titles for such things. You know how to tell that the end of civilization is near? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

"It's a box, Jim, but not as we know it". Martinevans123 (talk) 11:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Or as a great artist commented the end of Götterdämmerung: "Weialeialaleialalei. (sung) You're exactly where you started, 20 hours ago!" (or 25 acts, or 8 years). "I'm not making this up, you know!" (This phrase also became the title of her autobiography, published in 1985.) - An infobox is as redundant as a book cover. Paraphrasing "Siegfried, tired of love on the rocks with Brunhilda ..." - I am a bit tired of saying such simple things again and again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

lol, yes, know what you mean.... ..love on the rocks with Brunhilda - that's "precious"! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

It's also part of that delightful half hour, a must! Another "Mr. and Mrs. Wotan have an argument." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

"One bold edit for a Wikipedian, one great improvement for Misplaced Pages-kind". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you from Thryduulf

It is always nice to be appreciated, and being called "awesome" is a good thing to wake up to :) Thryduulf (talk) 07:54, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I remember the feeling, August 2010 ;) - I recently saw several of your comments and thoughts that I liked! Do you have words for this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I do, but in the interests of civility I shall not be sharing most of them. "Unhelpful" and "obstructionist" are two that are printable, but I'll not be sharing them there at the moment as I do not wish to get involved in any debates about infoboxes until at least the arbitration case concludes. You may wish to ask for an explanation of those points though so that you can rebut them factually. Thryduulf (talk) 08:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for a new term: "obstructionist"! I collect words, did you know? Not a native speaker of English, I have some above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Team

Gerda, you have accused me of tag-teaming which I regard as a serious and unwarranted attack on my integrity as an editor. I had thought that you understood my principles better than this; do not confuse my behaviour with that of others who disagree with me. I express my own opinions; if others agree with me that is of course gratifying, but I have not , in any way, incited them to support me. Indeed my messages to WP Classical music and WP Composers were strictly neutral and informative. I have never involved myself in tag-teaming, and as it happens I have never previously had any contact with User:Alfietucker or (as far as I know) with the anonymous editor (whoever he or she is). I should be grateful for an apology.--Smerus (talk) 13:18, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I haven't accused you. I said it "looks like" a team (not even mentioning "tag"). You will notice the difference. I apologize for not making this clear enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Gerda, to say that 'it looks like' implies in English that you think 'it is'. I would appreciate it if you would clearly post on the page where you made this accusation that you accept that ths was not the case.--Smerus (talk) 14:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I did not make an accusation but will clarify, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Smerus, haven't you read "don't template the regulars?" This is an example of your attempts at intimidation and failure of AGF toward Gerda. I am going to mention this at Arbcom in a moment. .. done. Montanabw 22:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, Smerus, I slept. I didn't report to Arbcom a single diff against (!) anybody, intentionally so. Looking at the PD, that was a mistake, and if there will be victim I will feel guilty. - Thank you for your support of my infobox for the Eighth. Should we call it a different name, for example "summary concept", to make it palatable, as a tool, not a weapon? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda! @Montanabw - terribly sorry, my old friend, I was only copying what Andy Mabbett did to me - (see my talk page) - I had been told by others that he was experienced in this sort of thing, but I guess I have learned better!--Smerus (talk) 06:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Well Smerus, two things, one is that he apparently did use a template and it was about a WP:Legal concern, so of a different nature than your simply expressing a difference of opinion. Second, if we argue (which I don't, but for the sake of this discussion) that Andy was in error, since when do two wrongs make a right? Your response to the two things posted on your page (your single word answer, "bollocks") says much for your attitude, which I think would benefit from an adjustment in the direction of a more collaborative outlook with more assumption of good faith and fewer personal attacks. JMO... Montanabw 17:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Dearest Montana, do grow up. And take a look at wht the arbs had to say about the ludicrous 'legal' complaint made against me by Rexss when he followed his leader. And if you want to whinge about me, do it on my page, not on Gerda's. If Gerda wants to report me for intimidation or anything else, she doesn't need your protection or advice.--Smerus (talk) 18:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

"Grow up"? From the person who responded to an Arbcom notice with "bollocks"? Really. Look in the mirror, my dear friend. Sheesh. But if you are forming a truce with Gerda, then more power to you and I will be glad if that happens. Montanabw 23:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Gerda, I think your suggestion for Sib 8th was a nice one. But it's neither an infobox nor a 'tool' in my opinion, rather simply a good way of using a photo at the head of an article with some interesting text. I see that Brian would prefer without - so be it. For myslef (who also loves the 1939 image), I could envisage a series of such relatively simple pix at the head of each symphony, each with a pic of the composer at that era and with a shortish text giving some of the background. I will try to think of a series of articles where this might be appropriate and not stir up any aggro. Best, --Smerus (talk) 18:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Smerus, you just made my day, did you know? - As for "reporting", I am determined not to, see above. But it troubles me that the Rite of Arb seems to require a victim. - I have a true story for you: Friends came with their seven-year-old daughter, sorry that this girl didn't eat vegetables. She got corn-on-the-cob and liked it, - nobody had labelled it "vegetable". - Btw: Andy has an article on the Main page, see above, the first British victim of World War I, shot before the UK entered the war. I didn't know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

OK,as Brian seems to have accepted the pic for Sibelius 8, take a look at Symphony No. 1 (Sibelius) where I have added a similarly 'informative' pic - mind you, the article is terrible and needs revamping.--Smerus (talk) 13:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

And now Symphs 2 and 5 as well. The Symph 2 article is also useless and needs a revamp. Symph 5 rather better, but also needs work.--Smerus (talk) 11:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Also see Robert le diable, with an experimental 'opera-specific' picture in the template and a pic of the compser at around thetimehe wrote it.--Smerus (talk) 14:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Also see my message below (tree), - I am debating with myself if I can reasonably support this projects any longer, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank-you!

Gerda, thank-you for beautiful gemstone "awesome Wikipedian" award! I like how you go around spreading happiness to other Wikipedians. —Prhartcom (talk) 20:56, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Precious

Hi, thank you so much for the award! And thanks for digging up my famine events article... that was so long ago! Haha.

Best wishes. Alex Shih 06:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You are so welcome! Did you know, Misplaced Pages never forgets ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kammerorchester Basel

On 21 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kammerorchester Basel, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the musicians of the chamber orchestra Kammerorchester Basel accompanied Andreas Scholl in Bach cantatas and also sang the closing chorale? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kammerorchester Basel. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Alex Shih 00:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Precious

Thank you, Gerda, for the "Precious" you have put on my user talk page. As you know I am all more than 50 years a Bruckner-fan.--Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

A tree for you!

Pine-Trees and the Sky: Evening

Then from the sad west turning wearily,

I saw the pines against the white north sky,

Very beautiful, and still, and bending over

Their sharp black heads against a quiet sky.

And there was peace in them; and I

Was happy, and forgot to play the lover,

And laughed, and did no longer wish to die;

Being glad of you, O pine-trees and the sky!

Rupert Brooke

Thank you, makes this a holiday! I cherish the tree further up - safe from archiving - and I loved the music on the hill of my page. Are you ready for a game? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Had a quick butchers.. I kinda like the infoboxes, reminds me of the school playground. -- Hillbillyholiday 15:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC) A forest!

I wish it was playground. It's about banning an excellent content editor for the reason that some find him "intimidating", - if you ask me: just because he has the better arguments, very intimidating indeed. I thought arbitration had to do with trying to find a solution between parties in battle, I really did. More experienced users corrected my innocent belief. "And there was peace in them", - not in me now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Gott ist mein König, BWV 71

Did you mean to end up with this sequence of edits? I thought I read somewhere that you had a self-imposed rule not to re-add infoboxes where their addition was challenged, but I may have misunderstood you or missed a conversation about this particular one:

you add an infobox (20th Aug)
infobox is removed "rm infobox pending consensus for this change via discussion on Talk. Thanks!" (21st Aug)
you re-add the infobox (22nd Aug, talk page is blank, can't see a discussion about this issue anywhere else).

Bencherlite 22:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

My time is limited. I added an infobox to an article by an author who likes them. A different author removed it, but not only that, also replaced the image of Bach's autograph by one of the first edition. I missed a conversation. - I did NOT re-add the infobox, I only inserted a title showing the uninitiated reader at a glance that the bulk of German of the title is a cantata by Bach, with links I think are helpful. More important: I re-added Bach's autograph, keeping the other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, so you added a different infobox the second time - without a discussion - re-adding much of the same information as before, but this time merely as hidden comments (for now?). If you really think that this sort of behaviour is the best use of your time when infobox-related sanctions are being discussed in an Arbcom case, then that's up to you. I really wish you found other, more productive things to do than this sterile row over infoboxes. Bencherlite 23:24, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Please see the section above, and the top of this page, it's a prayer, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:31, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

See discusion on the talk, started now (I really was too tired after midnight.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

I wished to thank you for your kind sapphire and words! It's certainly nice to be appreciated, and it's an honour to receive it from such a nice editor like yourself. Feel free to page me if you need any favours. Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 19:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! It's certainly nice to be called nice, where others think I need to be restricted and a friend needs to be banned, see? Did you know I contributed to Kafka? Kafkaesque, Teh Judgment, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Lautten Compagney

On 26 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lautten Compagney, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Lautten Compagney played Monteverdi's Vespers for the Rheingau Musik Festival's annual Marienvesper, which was sung by ensemble amarcord and guests? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lautten Compagney. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Message

Gerda, thanks for the message. Yes, we have done quite a few in collaboration with Dr. B and Rosiestep for achieving my milestone DYK 1000 award. Ibitekerezo marks the milestone 1000. The first was Mysore mallige (used in making the famous perfume Chanel No. 5 in 2007 for which my state of Karnataka, India is famous. I am the first non native English speaking user to do so. Incidentally, you may like to contribute to this Bulgarian wedding music which I have started today.--Nvvchar. 05:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Sounds lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Did you see may prayer about love on top? ... and our attempt for peace and reconciliation? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Bulgarian wedding music, eeks it really isn't lovely Gerda!! It's bizarre, strange time signatures!! Hope you are well!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I am not well, I'm bizarre and strange, see above (tree) and in the Signpost. Every editor is a human being. Look at the attempt right above, for a reason. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes again?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:36, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

You are so wise ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can help, but you have my support, Gerda. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Don't miss the link to "peace and reconciliation" on my user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Frustrated, sick

Hi Gerda. After reading a few of your comments on various arbitrators' talk page, I'm a little worried about you, and would suggest – with great respect – that you take a few days off from Misplaced Pages. This place isn't worth the stress! With every best wish, AGK 17:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

AGK, a LOT of us feel rather frustrated and sick at heart. Montanabw 18:38, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

AGK, thanks for the advice. Please note that I wrote about frustration 22 August. It's much worse today, but I don't have words for it. "In te speravi" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Sadly, I am flooded with words; words I can not ponder to write lest I also become ill. Though things are in fact, worse than they appear, the burden is not yours to carry alone. I insist that you allow me to share that burden and promise that upon your gaze, you will see me, toiling aside you until words are no more. :) John Cline (talk) 22:08, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, John. I heard music. Remember your black barnstar? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

ps: Andy told me not to behave as if he was banned --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Gerda, the Doncram Arbcom case resulted in "editor probation" and a ban on new-page creation in article space for Doncram. Any notion why that sort of thing couldn't happen for Pigs/Andy? --Orlady (talk) 04:06, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Profeti della Quinta

On 31 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Profeti della Quinta, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Profeti della Quinta, a male vocal ensemble from Israel based in Basel, performed Italian madrigals and Hebrew psalms by Salomone Rossi in a documentary of the composer's life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Profeti della Quinta. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Million Award

I've been slow to follow up on your comment at PumpkinSky's page, but you're right--even without the main page appearance, Kafka comes in at just over a million. Which means I get to give one of favorite Wikipedians--that's you--one of these, too!

[REDACTED]		The Million Award
		For your contributions to bring Franz Kafka (estimated annual readership: 1,002,000) to Featured Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Misplaced Pages's readers. -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a "million" for all you do here. It's a much better place thanks to your presence! -- Khazar2 (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Fantastic! Binksternet (talk) 02:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much, made my day! This is the first userbox ever that I will use! - My user page is designed differently, feel free to follow the links in the image, - thank you, Khazar, you did it! (For those who don't know: I am proud of editor retention, and won Khazar twice! Looking at the results, that may have been the best I did here.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:49, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, and thanks! You definitely get to count me.

-- Khazar2 (talk) 06:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

You will like the ensemble mentioned just above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I do! -- Khazar2 (talk) 06:38, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Need a German speaker

Hi Gerda, long time no see. How do you feel about poetry? I'm trying to work on Der Busant, but I don't speak German. Could you help? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:43, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes if you can wait. You can look for my name in the arb case, or just above. - project opera archived 17.000 words yesterday, and I simply said that I don't get passionate about infoboxes but people. Well, you know that, "Standing Strong". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I've exhausted all English sources I can find, and Drmies has helped with some German sources. I'm sorry to hear about this ArbCom case, though to be honest I've avoided it the best I can. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:53, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I know many most reasonable people who reasonably stay away, - It makes sense but I keep standing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I haven't looked today, for the peace of my mind. You will not get "involved" if you follow the two links, the first taking you to a discussion where you can say from the viewpoint of a reader if in an opera article you would prefer to see a side navbox or an infobox, the second even easier: you can simply sign my hope to continue collaboration with Andy, for things like peace and reconciliation on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I looked at the poem, interesting. What would you like me to do? I would add a time to the pic cap? I would also add the unspeakable thing, because - as The Rite of Spring looks like a painting, this looks like about a tapestry ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

I was just wondering if you'd be willing to check out some of the German sources available in Google books, see if there is significant information (like an estimate of the year?). LOL at the tapestry; yes, have not found a scan of the manuscript. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:53, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Your source #2 has "early 14th century", and this has "In der mittelhochdeutschen Versnovelle Der Busant (Der Bussard) eines unbekannten elsässischen Autors aus dem 14. Jahrhundert" - without a source. - so: "middle high German" (?), "rhymed novella" (?), "unkown author from Alsace", things to search for, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:18, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Trees

Hello. You have a new message at ColonelHenry's talk page.

SP comment

Hi, I've heard a rumour that Neotarf is offline for at least a few days due to circumstances not under that editor's control Tony (talk) 21:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Tony, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Bacon thanks

Thanks for your kind words about my recent successful GA, FA, TFA contributions to Everything Tastes Better with Bacon.

I really appreciate it.

It's nice to know that my quality improvement projects on this website are appreciated and acknowledged.

Thanks again,

— Cirt (talk) 00:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I thank you! An article starting with "Everything Tastes Better" sends the mood to positive, - a great asset! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Elgar Cello Concerto

Greetings, dear Gerda. I have put a bomb under your info-box, but you won't be astonished at that. But really, it didn't add anything of use and made the top right image irritatingly small. With all my respect and affection, as ever, Tim riley (talk) 19:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Dear Tim, I am not surprised. Be careful using terms as "bomb", - irony is not easily detected in written conversation, and "battleground mentality" actually used, as "(mental) health". Redundancy is no valid argument, you know that much, right? If the pic size is a concern, it can be easily adjusted, but with caution, for readers with different interests and displays? - I was elucidated today. - Btw, I had the great pleasure to hear the concerto, look at the top if you missed it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ben Gunn (campaigner)

On 2 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ben Gunn (campaigner), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Ben Gunn, imprisoned 32 years for killing a friend when he was 14, earned a Master of Arts degree in peace and reconciliation? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ben Gunn (campaigner). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Your potential admonishment

I've been dipping in and out of the ArbCom case you're involved in, and if I were a betting man I'd say it's quite likely that you'll be admonished (what a strangely pretentious word that is). Anyway, I just popped in to say that if you are, don't take it too seriously. I know from personal experience how difficult it is to see yourself being discussed for weeks on end, often unfairly, without any effective redress, so keep your chin up. Eric Corbett 15:15, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, Eric, you know it of all people ;) - I left the two projects where controversy is seen and where I damage the atmosphere. - Ched left, THAT is what I take seriously. He started the case, he saw it go in the opposite direction from what he may have hoped, we never blamed him, - now I miss him. Don't miss our latest DYK, in the box on top, "peace ..." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Gosh, I hadn't seen that Ched's buggered off, what a shame. Eric Corbett 15:39, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Tell him his talk, please. I was physically sick three times on Misplaced Pages, when BarkingMoon left, when I thought Andy had been banned (forgive me, - turned out that my math was too simple), and when I saw the red links on Ched's name today. There was a time when his user page proclaimed that I was the reason for him to stay. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest Gerda I'm not sure I'd encourage anyone to remain here, or even to register as a member. It seems quite clear that the Dark Lord has won the battle of WP, largely using the ridiculous civility policy as a subterfuge. The analogy with the recent Internet law enacted in Vietnam is inescapable. Eric Corbett 15:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Nor would I. But I could tell him that I miss him. I have three red cats now, will rival Floq some day. How did you like our DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I can tell him that privately. As for DYK, I've got no time for it, a complete waste of space. Eric Corbett 16:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I told him both ways. - DYK: in general you are right, but this one is good for a point of irony, - I was accused of pointed edits several times, this is it (not mine, - look for author, subject and message) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

There's a time to regroup, but never give up! While the place currently seems to be run by out of control children, it isn't. Can't be letting the dark side of the force troll on unimpeded. Sometimes strategic retreat to fight again another day is advisable, though. Montanabw 21:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Hold Your Head Up, Hold your head high. This too shall pass. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I hold my head up: Andy will stay with us, "She shall drink of the brook in the way, therefore shall she lift up his head." (paraphrasing Psalm 110) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Gerda, these events are best ignored. I don't think it helps to seek more clarification. I am very aware that you have a passionate interest in classical music, including the works of Buxtehude and Bach. That is what counts. Even in secondary matters like infoboxes, which I find useful in some places and not in others, I found you reasonable and accommodating. In BWV 39 you helped expand and improve an inadequate article; doing the same thing for BWV 140 might be a therapeutic exercise. On a personal note, when in London I went into Handel's parish church St George's, Hanover Square and itched to play the chamber organ there, which is illustrated in the external links for Handel organ concertos Op.4 and can be seen here in situ. Perhaps next time. I have written WP articles on two buildings nearby, the Handel House Museum and the Hanover Square Rooms (at one time the main concert hall In London, but sadly demolished in 1900). Music is the thing, the rest is fairly meaningless. Please keep up the good work. Regards, Mathsci (talk) 08:00, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Amen ;) - I said before that I am not passionate about infoboxes, but people, and am happy that we can continue together, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

For someone who claims not to be passionate about infoboxes, you spend a hell of a lot of your time pushing them and have done so even when the Arbcom case has been in progress: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Infobox is all written by you, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Infobox is mostly written by you; you turn up at my talk page on the day that one of my articles is the TFA and suggest that it could have an infobox, and make the same comment elsewhere (hardly great timing, and completely uncalled for); you add an infobox to an article that I've written knowing that I'm on holiday, no discussion anywhere of course, leaving me with a fait accompli when I eventually look at it a long time later; as I noted above, you push an infobox back into Gott ist mein König, BWV 71 despite your first attempt being challenged and despite your self-proclaimed restrictions; you advocate infoboxes at FAC and PR to editors who you know take a different view on them to you, risking raising hackles completely unnecessarily; etc. As I've said to you before, "I really wish you found other, more productive things to do than this sterile row over infoboxes." But as you seem incapable of doing so voluntarily, hopefully the forthcoming restriction will make you find better things to do with your editing time. Please. Best wishes, Bencherlite 08:38, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

What did you miss? I left projects classical music and opera, the areas of conflict. If I added an infobox you could simply revert it, and now I will not even add one. If I ask about an infobox - TFA day or another - you can just say no, or yes. Collecting diffs to defend Andy (trying to show that I am the one to better restrict) is bookkeeping, not passion. Thanks for your time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

ps: I happen to prefer Inno delle nazioni to Rigoletto, and the infobox is not by me, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Gerda, the gesture of leaving those two projects is utterly immaterial to you avoiding future conflict. Every time you start an infobox "proposal" on an established article's talk page or at TFA when you know full well that it will be opposed by some of the main editors in the area, and especially by the article's principle author, you will start unnecessary conflict and friction. You may not like that situation, but that's the way it is. If you think that infoboxes are so crucial to the building an encyclopedia that you plan to plow on proposing them and ignore the collateral damage, well so be it, but I hope you give some serious thought to the advice you have been given by several experienced editors who are not members of either the Classical Music or Opera projects. Voceditenore (talk) 10:53, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I don't plan to start infobox proposals on talk pages, enough is enough. To ask an author whose preference I don't know should be possible, no? Infoboxes are not crucial, but I would like to see Bach cantatas consistent. Please look at the other discussion, to have only one, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

When did you leave? It can only have been very, very recently, given actions like this. And if you have left, you don't need to bookmark disputes in this manner anymore, do you? In fact, why not just remove the entire Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Infobox#Infoboxes for discussion section if you're through with infoboxes? Bencherlite 08:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

I left on 2 September. I didn't record the reverts of two symphonies after that, and will not add. The page is a historic document, and many links from the case go there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps {{hat}} and {{hab}} the section to mark it as history rather than anything active? It might also help lower temperatures and act as a discouragement to others to carry on where you left off. Bencherlite 09:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Do it if you think it's helpful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Someone appears to have hijacked your account to add an infobox to a classical music article this morning: see Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Proposed decision#Already a dead letter? Obviously it wouldn't be you, not after you reassured me just a couple of hours ago with "I left projects classical music and opera, the areas of conflict. If I added an infobox you could simply revert it, and now I will not even add one." "Phew", I thought, "Gerda is going to put this behind her now." Before I block your account as compromised, is there another explanation? Bencherlite 10:43, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

I answered, "consistency". That I left the project doesn't mean that I don't care about the articles I created or am the main contributor, nor that I will not write new ones. The projects will be free from my unwanted discussions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

In other words, you have no intention of complying with the restrictions that arbcom placed on you? "Gerda Arendt is indefinitely restricted from: adding or deleting infoboxes; restoring an infobox that has been deleted; or making more than two comments in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. They may participate in wider policy discussions regarding infoboxes with no restriction, and include infoboxes in new articles which they create.". Where does it say that if your view, you are a main contributor, you can continue adding infoboxes? Voceditenore (talk) 11:05, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Please keep this discussion in one place, the other, where the same question was raised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Everyone lay off Gerda. This anti-infobox obsession of the classical music projects is the stupidest, most damaging thing I have ever seen on wikipedia. Over half of all articles already have infoboxes, the only question should be about design and content, not their existence itself. Given that I happen to believe that every article not only needs but deserves a good infobox, maybe I should step up next and start adding them to classical music articles, eh? Then someone can take me to a drama board. Please, let's just never end this stupid infobox war. Sheesh! Montanabw 00:52, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Gerda, I hope you will ignore such inflammatory and, frankly, asinine posturing. I also hope you will not seek martyrdom, as you have plenty to contribute to Misplaced Pages, in music and elsewhere. My advice is to bite the bullet for a bit, and concentrate on the articles that interest you; much needs to be done in the field of Bach and elsewhere. I and others don't have a completely closed mind on the infobox question, and I am happy to continue talking to you about ways in which valid objections (not, incidentally, confined to classical music projects) might be overcome. But you need to be aware that, for a while at least, you will be walking on eggshells on this issue. Keep your profile low, avoid provoking people's sensitivities, and it will be possible to make progress. Fighting to the death is an empty option. Brianboulton (talk) 09:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

In case any of that lecture was addressed at me, Montanabw, and just so we're clear, I'm not anti-infobox or pro-infobox in principle - some of my FAs use them, some don't. Many of my GAs use an infobox, {{infobox church}}, that I think exemplifies many of the worst trivialities of infobox parameterization. But that's beside the point for now. What I have been trying to get Gerda to do is to back away from the issue in advance of being forced to do so by the impending Arbcom restrictions, and expressing my frustration when she added an infobox to a classical music article after I understood her to be saying that she would not be doing this again. This just gives ammunition to those who have been saying that Gerda has developed a battleground mentality and / or an "I didn't hear that" attitude, and it gives ammunition to those who want to paint infobox campaigners in a bad light. I know that Gerda is perfectly capable of working excellently across Misplaced Pages on a range of issues, in article space and away from article space - I just think that wasting time on the infobox wars is, well, a waste of time. Bencherlite 10:06, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, all three. As Smerus said several times, I am grown-up (see above). Classical music is not against infoboxes per se, I explained that in detail in the other discussion. I would love eventually to not talk about individual articles, but groups, for example orchestras and Bach cantatas, two topics where I don't see the slightest conflict. Let's calm down and then do it. Any volunteer to take the reverted infobox of BWV 51 and the one proposed for BWV 138 to the respective article? To help the reader understand at a glance that the long German title, followed by a translation and a catalogue number, is a work by Bach? ... year and location? ... let him know the sources of the hybrid text and the voice parts? - Regardless of how good or bad the article is, an by whom, these are facts important for a reader. Please let him have them at least for articles for which I feel responsible, - accepting that it is impossible at present for the several that Nikkimaria wrote. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Calling for volunteers to carry on the battle in which you're about to be prevented from participating isn't a good idea. It will inevitably be seen as an unworthy attempt to sneak around the restrictions if you do it after the case is closed, so please don't start doing this now. Bencherlite 11:28, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

What can we do? The premiere of one cantata is 5 September. Can we establish a user page where I can propose an infobox and some indepent judges examine it and handle it? Other ideas? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

So what if one cantata premiered 5 September? Why should I, or anyone else, come up with ideas to help you get around the forthcoming Arbcom restrictions that would prevent you from adding the infobox yourself? Bencherlite 11:39, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

I still think of the readers, more than the authors. It's not a forthcoming restriction that prevents me from adding it myself, but a voluntary 1RR rule. I would modify the phrasing but can't, now that you responded. - Please, keep the discussion one place, - the other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

I give up. You clearly aren't in the mood to listen to anyone. Bencherlite 11:54, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Inno delle nazioni

On 3 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Inno delle nazioni, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Giuseppe Verdi's secular cantata Inno delle nazioni, his first collaboration with Arrigo Boito, contains three national anthems? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Inno delle nazioni. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I couldn't care less about

Hello Gerda, my understanding of the term is that it has the connotation of that you would ignore the restrictions by overstepping them. I am quite sure you meant that you are not worried as you have no problem staying within the restrictions. Agathoclea (talk) 08:21, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

you are right, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Infobox: Holy Sonnets

I'd be interested in how you would propose an infobox for my continuing recent poetry project Holy Sonnets.--ColonelHenry (talk) 12:03, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Holy Sonnets
(Divine Meditations)
by John Donne
Written	possibly 1609 and 1610
First published in	1633
Form	19 sonnets of two quatrains and a sestet
Full text
[REDACTED] Holy Sonnets at Wikisource

some ideas, imagine the pic here, no need for it on my talk, - no more time now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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