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With all pleasure! (re: Philippine languages)

No problem. It was actually such a challenge most especially the higher language nodes since I have to fix the range relative to other nearby groups and preexisting maps. Took me more than 2 hours for most of them, but for the sake of information! --Pansitkanton (talk) 14:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

to do

S.Twa also indigenous, like Kwisi etc. (Inskepe). Kwisi may have once had cattle?

upload new rongorongo R photos.

Emilian: language or dialect

Why have you taken it upon yourself to reclassify Emilian and Romagnol as dialects of one unified language? There is a clear distinction, obvious to speakers of either. mgSH 09:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I haven't. Our sources classify them as dialects of one language. Native speakers on the talk page even see them as dialects of one language. — kwami (talk) 11:02, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Where exactly is this? Further, do you have a source for this? As a native speaker myself, I find your assertion surprising. In 2009, SIL reclassified Emilian and Romagnol as separate languages in the tradition that residents of the region have always understood. You do seem quite the expert on this subject for someone who probably didn't know the language existed a week ago. mgSH 18:23, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

See the talk page. — kwami (talk) 18:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Emilian dialect? Most of that is your fruitless attempt to establish the language as dead. I can't see anything which supports your claim. Help me out. mgSH 18:29, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Native speakers there refer to it as a dialect of Emiliano-Romagnol. They also mention the politics of the guy who got the ISO code split, and how he's not a linguistic source. Our ref in the lead of Romance languages, distinguishing languages on the basis of mutual intelligibility, also has Emiliano-Romagnol. — kwami (talk) 18:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Dialetto in Italian does not have the same meaning as English's dialect. Cognates are not always as simple as direct translation, unfortunately. The word dialetto is applied to Emilian and Parmesan (which I'd agree is a true dialect), just as it is to Tuscan. None of the three references in the lead of Romance languages mentions Emilian, Romagnol or its parent language group, as far as I can see. I still can't see the claim that a native has suggested Emilian is a dialect either. Again, please help me out by being specific on any of these points. mgSH 18:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Ah, you're right, Dalby considers Emiliano-Romagnol as a whole to be a dialect.

Several of the commenters there speak excellent English, so I don't know if we can chalk it up to mistranslation. Certainly "So he invented that Romagnol and Emilian are different languages, not dialects of the same language, and he pushed his claim to ISO", while not perfect English, is pretty clear.

My Routledge volumes speak of both Emiliano and Romagnol as being dialects, though not necessarily of an Emiliano-Romagnol language.

Before the split, Ethnologue cited Agard (1984) A course in Romance linguistics, a diachronic view (Georgetown UP) as saying that Emiliano-Romagnolo is "a structurally separate language from Italian". — kwami (talk) 18:55, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Several of the commenters where speak excellent English? Is this on this talk page you're yet to link to? In the absence of any credible evidence, I still don't know understand why you've made this re-classification, especially given your plainly obvious lack of knowledge of the region's linguistic make-up. mgSH 20:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Please add ref e17

Emilian dialect --Frze 11:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

That's not actually a ref for the claim. — kwami (talk) 11:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Re 50000 Quaoar

Regarding my revert to the 50000 Quaoar article, I initially looked at it because User:Memy9909 had been vandalising other articles, and I seem to have got confused between KBOs in general and classical Kuiper belt objects in particular - our article on the latter says that Pluto isn't one. Thanks for correcting my error. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

It looks like that's what they were originally going for: classical KBO's, but the wording's not clear and Haumea's no longer considered to be one. — kwami (talk) 17:22, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Native Languages Map

Why are you removing the native languages map from the languages in India page? Jujhar.pannu (talk) 21:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Because it's not a native-language map. — kwami (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

A reference problem

Hi! Some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with broken reference names.

Otomi language

Cite error: A list-defined reference named "FOOTNOTEZimmermann_2012" is not used in the content Can you take a look and work out what you were trying to do? Thanks --Frze (talk · contribs) 08:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I didn't even edit that section. It was broken before I got there, and I have no idea how I made it worse. — kwami (talk) 17:43, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Wisdom requested

Kwami, would you mind commenting at Talk:Motor Gun Boat? Many thanks. Shem (talk) 19:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

I added my 2¢. The one you really want to talk to is User:Noetica. They're retired, but you still might get an answer if you email them. — kwami (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks. Food for thought. Shem (talk) 21:42, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

IPA for English listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect IPA for English. Since you had some involvement with the IPA for English redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Cathfolant (talk) 21:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Request for input

I have been engaged in a dispute at Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias for some time now that could be of relevance to the many pronunciations of non-English names throughout WP. It's a former featured article, and one of the contributors who got it to FA status objects to the pronunciation of the name Caxias being indicated, for a rotating set of reasons. Any input there would be appreciated, as we don't seem to be resolving it ourselves and hardly anyone else is watching the page. — ˈzɪzɨvə (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

IPA for English links

Kwami,

You told me I need to fix links before retargeting IPA for English. But what links? I look at what links to IPA for English, and I see zero articles, and the only Misplaced Pages pages are archives (which you wouldn't normally retarget) and the Redirect for Discussion pages, which you obviously wouldn't retarget. What needs to be retargeted first? Ego White Tray (talk) 06:17, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

There are talk pages, some of them archived, a wikiproject how-to page, some archived MOS and ref-desk pages, etc. I don't see why we can't fix the archives. I've never had a problem. It's the same thing we do when we change or retire a template so that the archives don't become illegible. I've even cleaned up people's talk pages and their archives, and never had a complaint, though I wouldn't worry much about that here. As for what to do first, I don't know that it matters. The whole thing would only take a couple minutes with AWB. — kwami (talk) 06:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok–Oksapmin languages ()

Hello Kwamikagami, is there any reason which could explain why did you move Ok–Oksapmin languages to Ok–Oksapmin languages ()? Pamputt (talk) 23:43, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Just a placeholder. Move it to the proper name if you can. — kwami (talk) 23:45, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

File:Natively Vietnamese-speaking areas.png

Vietnamese people now are majority in Central Highlands, Soc Trang, Tra Vinh, Thai Nguyen ; the population of Kiên Giang, Dong Nai consisted of primarily ethnic Vietnamese people for a long time. This File is inaccurated and outdated. --123.17.229.91 (talk) 02:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't see how that contradicts the map. If majority meant covering the largest area, then Australia would have a greater population than Vietnam. Anyway, if you want to update it, why don't you update it, rather than just deleting it. Or you could just say "traditionally" or "as of 19xx" or "excluding recent immigration" or whatever works. — kwami (talk) 03:01, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

"data from Ethnologue" ?, this only Austo-Asiatic, not Vietnamese language.--123.17.229.91 (talk) 03:13, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect. Take a closer look at the map.

Also, you are on the verge of violating 3RR. If you continue edit warring rather than discussion, I will ask to have you blocked or to have the article protected from you. — kwami (talk) 04:33, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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