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Cleaning up, I was polite to AnonMoos because he is Senior to me. But it turns out he only wants religiously approved dogma to be known, An example is he Killed the "Etymology of Palestine" Article as Timeline of the name "Palestine".

Harry S Truman and the Second KKK along with Scottish Rite Freemasonry created 1948 Israel

It has absolutely no relevance to the article on "United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine", but during the early 1920s the revived KKK or "second Klan" was extremely politically influential across a number of regions of the U.S. (by no means all in the deep South, such as much of the state of Indiana), due to influence from the "Birth of a Nation" film, the aftermath of the Palmer raid etc. During that time (before the second Klan fell apart due to the Madge Oberholtzer case and wearing out its welcome in other respects), many local politicians had to work with or accommodate the Klan (regardless of their personal views) if they didn't want their careers to be destroyed... AnonMoos (talk) 20:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

My post was very short... Just a request for two maps to be added? I returned to " ' ' Palestine" and saw two people plotting how to butcher three citations, with a very wordy less informative myopic substitution. Annoyed with pity for the unknown PLNR I decided to share a jeweler's loop view of what light created Israel. The spiritually predecessor of the Current State. ...Facts of the matter, 1948 Israel is more extreme than the any KKK. http://davidduke.com/category/jewish-supremacism-2/ --DigDeep4Truth (talk) 21:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Harry S Truman was an Incumbent Judge. He joined the KKK and promised to Rule on case topics in their favor, to gain votes. He had a career and joined the KKK because of two friends, not political pressure or threats (You cast the decision to join as if it was out of duress and as if most people joined the KKK not amicably, but out of survival. Majority says the majority of men would have had to have been amicable to the goals of the Klan for the influence to matter.), conspiring to create Israel in an overnight U.N. meeting if proof he places the needs of the few Jews within his circle, above the needs of the many Palestinians outside his circle. Joining the KKK raised light in the agreement of his character. The KKK was not a shadow cast onto him, but a light he vowed to carry and spread. https://en.wikipedia.org/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics

F.A.M. is the only party or lobby one needs be mindful of crossing in politics or life. Masons like Wilbur Mills have beaten women on Capitol Hill and seen them thrown from his moving car. Such stories don't make the news if you are in good standing with a local F.A.M. Lodge. Story Source: Page 110 http://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/9780517229262?qwork=9813734#search-anchor ~ DigDeep4Truth (talk) 23:14, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Yale may no longer be a white supremacist think tank (Taft). But Harvard is currently an Israeli Supremacist Political Think Tank. http://davidduke.com/?s=harvard

It's far from clear from the link you supplied that Truman was ever a member of the KKK, but if he accommodated or worked with the KKK to some degree as Jackson County, Missouri administrative judge from 1922-1924, it would have been more because of local political realities than because of honestly-held beliefs (considering that he was very closely associated with both Catholics and Jews). In any case, I haven't seen any evidence of a direct link between his political maneuverings in Jackson County, Missouri in 1922-24 and his decision to recognize Israel in 1948, and I strongly doubt that there is any such evidence, so any claim of such a direct link would appear to be WP:OR and/or WP:FRINGE. AnonMoos (talk) 00:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Because you doubt the existence or proof, you already know the value is as low as you're predisposed prejudices? That makes no sense. Are you Psychic? And I thought you a sensible person. Which means I wrote something disagreeable to your emotion, and you wanted to express dissatisfaction? Take your time and tell me what shocked or upset you. Did you not know before my post that Truman who created Israel was once KKK? Or was it the other presidents before him that were KKK too which bothered you? --DigDeep4Truth (talk) 01:49, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I've known for about twenty years that local politicians in many areas of the U.S. had to work with or accommodate the second KKK during the first half of the 1920s if they wanted to keep their political careers. My great-grandfather was likely in a similar situation at the time. Meanwhile, please stop adding tangential ranting tirades to "Talk:United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine" until and unless you have a reliable source indicating a direct connection between politics in Jackson County, Missouri in 1923 and Harry S Truman's decision-making process in May 1948. AnonMoos (talk) 10:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me about your Great Grand Father. That explains a lot. ~ And assuming it hasn't been deleted from the internet I will look up and find where Harry S Truman as a Mason worked with a Jewish Friend also a Mason to Decide to Displace all the Arabics in Palestine so that a Jewish country might be invented, just as the 2nd KKK had envisioned as a Zionist Movement ideal. Africans to Africa. Jews to Jerusalem. DigDeep4Truth (talk) 09:28, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Whatever -- my great-grandfather died many years before I was even born, and belonged to a social class that very rarely joined the KKK, but he may have had to accommodate himself to the local political realities, since he was a prominent town father (though not actually an elected official) in an area where the Klan was quite strong during the first half of the 1920s. Meanwhile, the main motivation of Zionism was the painful and sometimes desperate situation of Jews in eastern Europe, and before 1936, Zionists mostly tried to ignore Arabs as best they could... AnonMoos (talk) 13:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Don't whatever me! It'll take a hell of a lot of my time to find those official masonic websites with the history. Many of them have been tagged, to not be indexed by search engines. You should say "thank you" for opening my eyes to Freemason Architecting the Destruction of Palestine through the the Three Points. F.A.M Blue Lodge (Zionists), York Rite (Catholic), Scottish Rite (KKK). All three have one thing in common, the Holy Crusades and the invasion of Palestine.

It's rather unfortunate for you that you seem to be much better at nasty innuendo, spinning pointless conspiracy theories, than usefully or constructively advancing Misplaced Pages's goals. AnonMoos (talk) 00:15, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

What good is getting grumpy with me going to do you? I've only been here 4 days, right? Well today I proved "Yeshua" was NOT Jesus's name until 1700 CE. How many decades have Scholars like you not been able to figure this out? ` DigDeep4Truth (talk) 00:30, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

1. As of 521 CE the Jews say Jesus was never in their Talmud or Religious writings. https://en.wikipedia.org/Jesus_in_the_Talmud
2. Greek translation of the common Hebrew name Yehoshua יְהוֹשֻׁעַ (Joshua), Yeshua did not originate until the Second Temple period in Aramaic Talmud, Not Hebrew.
3. Then in 1700 CE Frankfort Johann Andreas Eisenmenger printed Entdecktes Judenthum, saying that "Yeshu" was always such a deliberately insulting term for Jesus. And that Yeshua should be the encoding his name.

United Nations in their own World Library sheds light on a Holy Crusade to take Palestine over for Jews Only

Because the majority of the League of Nations were Christian, its members GREW UP BELIEVING FALSELY there was once a Government named Israel. Sadly because of Religious Dogma, Politicians at the United Nations completed the Holy Crusades in 1948 with a Midnight Meeting and a Political Ambush at Sunrise, making a government which never existed into a reality. ~ In the Bible: Israel was a gimp legged man, then twelve sons, then a tribe, but Israel was never more of a Nation than the Cherokee Nation.

The Holy Land or Promised Land (Formerly Palestine), Recently Depicted and Published by Nicolaes Visscher 1659 CE --> http://www.wdl.org/en/item/210/#q=Palestine&time_periods=-8000-499&qla=en `` DigDeep4Truth (talk) 13:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Here ABOVE is another very good United Nations map. This one through title and layout shines light on a European Goal to replace Palestine with a "Holy Land" or "Promised Land" of a religious Europe's own design. _{Created in Amsterdam, one should mentally note Freemasonry started in Germany around 1500 CE setting up Martin Luther to take the Fall against the Catholic Church. Just as Harry S. Truman was set up and raised by Freemason members and tricked by friends into creating Israel with other masonic conspirators. Freemason had even converted the King of Jordan to Freemasonry in preparations for 1948 Israel.}

I'm also looking at another map, this time from Lithuania along the coast of Germany where they carved Palestine into 12 Tribes. Written in Hebrew. Eliyyahu ben Shelomo Zalman (1720-1797) better known as the Vilna Gaon or Elijah of Vilna, Although he traveled some in Eastern Europe, he never visited the Holy Land. However, more than 500 of his disciples moved to Palestine at his urging; this immigration is considered the beginning of the modern Jewish settlement of the Land of Israel. http://www.wdl.org/en/item/2662/#q=Palestine&page=2&qla=en

The other links posted on my UserPage, make it clear Harry S Truman was KKK. You have to keep your mind open and see views outside of your personal experiences. --> http://davidduke.com/ & Palestine before Israel http://www.wdl.org/en/search/?q=Palestine&qla=en // From the Truman KKK Wiki, Someone removed the part about Six or Seven klan members calling him to a meeting to find out why he helped a Catholic Mason. Someone jumbled up the story about his grandpappy as a jew or something and said that was why they called him, but his Great GrandMa was a Gregg and his Great Grandpa was a Free & Accepted Mason not a Jew. I've seen the Obelisk on his grandpas grave. ~ F.A.M. see many of their Degrees as Knight degrees, tying back the the Holy Crusades. That might make them worse than the KKK. Plus the Scottish Rite and Albert Pike are largely responsible for the creation of the KKK. No matter how you doubt his loyalty to the KKK, Truman was a Mason, and their Degrees, of which Truman proudly brags he acquired every single degree (except for 99 Memphis degrees) are largely Holy Knight & Religious Crusade Degrees. Can you doubt that the Crusades were about Taking the Holy land from the Arabic people? DigDeep4Truth (talk) 09:28, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

DigDeep4Truth, you are invited to the Teahouse

Jesus

Re this edit. Yeah, there were only three sections and I needed a fourth to generate the direct link to the section I wanted to make into a URL. I could have forced a ToC with the appropriate code, but I was lazy… Thanks for removing the now superfluous section. --Pete (talk) 04:59, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Please stop the personal attacks and ranting tirades

You are not a linguist, and you don't even play a linguist on TV, and your knowledge of ancient languages such as Biblical Greek and Hebrew appears to be minimal at best, so when you make emphatic assertions in these areas based on very little valid knowledge, you are unfortunately verging towards Randy in Boise territory. Furthermore, accusing me of writing things which I know to be false is a pointless useless meaningless personal attack, and a violation of WP:AGF policy. -- AnonMoos (talk) 03:37, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

This is your last notice on violations of WP:NPA and WP:AGF

I've been semi-tolerant so far, but if you accuse me again of maliciously "lying" (on subjects which I generally know a lot more about than you do), then I will call in the authorities tasked to deal with such matters, and it might not go well with your account's editing privileges. AnonMoos (talk) 14:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you make personal attacks on other people, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors.

FREE GIFT to AnonMoos and Reader. http://wordweb.info/ ~ Please Accept with Attentive Use

• Lie ~ A statement that deviates from or perverts the truth
  

What if my post demonstrate the content you are posting "lies", that are directly false against proven facts? You are posting things claiming they are facts, by omitting details you know through contact with the articles here, obfuscating your statements with wording to provide a false understanding to the reader on purpose, using modifiers that allow you to escape criticism by the exaggeration of your wording not being intentionally misleading, and posting without links to support further reading and unravel your well words deceptions and lies by supposition clauses rather than facts.

If AnonMoos's posts are proven consistently false and misleading, despite his long tenure and contact with the topic, does that not make those posts apparent lies AnonMoos is spreading? -- I honestly feel like AnonMoos is baiting a 'pissing contest', with statements like, "I generally know a lot more about than you do" by claiming just because AnonMoos has been on Misplaced Pages longer than me His understanding of the topics being discussed is superior to my own. Before I even Edited an Article, AnonMoos was unapologetically insulting me calling my Goal to reveal the Aramaic origins of Jesus a "Manifesto". The definition of "Manifesto" is "(government) a public declaration of intentions (as issued by a political party or government)", and only popular usage was to a Hermit and Mad Bomber; a lie, a slander, a personal attack, I never reported AnonMoos for making because these attacks becuase I don't know how to manipulate the rules like AnonMoos does to Bully others into staying quite. AnonMoos posted this personal attack on my TalkPage and I was polite to AnonMoos on three occasions asking AnonMoos to use a proper definition of the word. Then I discovered AnonMoos habit of insulting others too, dismissing truth in Talk of users like Onceinawhile United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine, and posting falsehoods about the History of inland Palestine starting with Hadrian when AnonMoos known better for years, even posting to block the Etymology of Palestine from coming to light by giving GreyShark09 Timeline of the name Palestine a Lie in regards to the definition, taking advantage that he is a foreign speaker.

Etymology ~ A history of a word.

I am an American. I see a coin heads up, it is heads up. I see a lie in print, it is a lie. That is three people he has lied to including me. AnonMoos attacked me first, then never apologized after being solicited to correct your behavior or at least use accurate wording, Prepare for Facts based on the very Definition of Facts! After I post again, keep it posted, and report me. The only reason to delete it is because you don't like accurately used words, and disapprove of Misplaced Pages becoming an academically consultable source on Religion. ` DigDeep4Truth (talk) 22:35, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

What impresses me about AnonMoos is his writing skill (making it difficult for passersby to perceive his bias), so a total ban of him replying to me is not being sought; merely an agreement that he post on my TalkPage and gain consent to reply to me elsewhere. This restriction is necessary to avoid him "wikistalking" me and posting false understandings where AnonMoos where he plants omissions and avoidance of facts, to make busy work out of replying to him, typing up progress, creating a forum, rather than advancing the concern being expressed by my post.

"Perpetrators, collaborators, bystanders, victims: ...‘The only thing necessary for the triumph is for good men to do nothing.’" http://tartarus.org/~martin/essays/burkequote.html

Contested deletion

This page should not be deleted because I am hoping it is not a spelling error, and it provides an important Canon, that at least 3 different Paul Epistle authors were employed to author 13 books in replacement to. --DigDeep4Truth (talk) 12:09, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Please allow time to find the Article that exists in my vague imagination or recollection of Misplaced Pages and redirect to it. AND IF IT DOES NOT EXIST, THEN ALLOW this to become a Well Laid out Article. Here is an online version of the entire canon of this book printed in english in 1820 CE. --> http://sacred-texts.com/bib/lbob/ ` DigDeep4Truth (talk) 12:09, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent contributions. Getting started creating new articles on Misplaced Pages can be tricky, and you might like to try creating a draft version first, which you can then ask for feedback on if necessary, with less risk of deletion. Do make sure you also read help available to you, including Your First Article and the Tutorial. You might also like to try the Article Wizard, which has an option to create a draft version. Thank you. Pahazzard (talk) 12:58, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Concerning edits on Sirach...

Hello,

I'm very concerned about your edits on Sirach. Your resource doesn't explain what the "Gospel of Jesus" is, nor does such content exist. Also, you've added unnecessary redirecting links. What you basically did is reworded the introduction of the article and added non - existing content. None of your edits weren't really undone except redirecting links I removed. Please place a proper resource that explains to me about the extra content such as the: "Gospel of Jesus" or I have to remove useless information that really doesn't exist. -- ♣Jerm♣729 02:29, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

off-topic

Hi, I have previously asked you to stop your off-topic discussion on the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine article, which doesn't contribute to its improvement( per WP:TPG ). Since you guys can stop, I am moving that entirely personal exchange between the two of you, to the talk page of the editor who started the discussion, where you may continue your discussion if you wish todo so.--PLNR (talk) 04:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Palestine has existed since 800 Years Before the times of Jesus, Maps project it as far back as 400 CE

Palestine has existed legally since at least 200 years BCE, in Palestinian Aramaic in legal non-religious and religious texts, in fact Palestinian Aramaic was the primary language of the Hebrew Faith, Torah and Talmud for nearly 400 years; Another fact is that it can be found as three regions spanning from Egypt across the Dead Sea area and North in a U.N. European maps Regional Map of the Holy Lands showing its borders around 400 CE

• Palestine 200BCE-200CE http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/learn-about-the-scrolls/languages-and-scripts
• http://www.wdl.org/en/item/11745/zoom/#group=1&page=1&zoom=5.4635&centerX=0.2820&centerY=0.5588 DigDeep4Truth (talk) 04:28, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • But back then, "Palestinian" meant Jewish. It was not until the 1900s that the Arabs usurped the word Palestinian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.143.3.67 (talk) 09:27, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
    • That is hearsay, not correct. Please read it directly. Visit the following 400 CE Map link http://www.wdl.org/en/item/11745/zoom/#group=1&page=1&zoom=6.5562&centerX=0.2848&centerY=0.5562 ~~ And consult the 1947 Jewish Land Distribution Map ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/File:Jewish_Land_Ownership_in_Mandatory_Palestine,_1947.svg ~~ Hebrew Jews were located in "Phoenice", and a few in "Phoe.Libam" who came from Russia and managed to break the Ottoman land purchase laws https://en.wikipedia.org/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine#cite_note-Ocak2002-7 and Still next to no one claiming to be a Jew owned lands in "Palaeftina" as the classic map depicting 400 CE indicates modern Jews were in "Phoenice" and may be why Hebrew speakers claim Phoenician Language descent, even though the Phoneticians invaded the Aramaic and then converted to Aramaic Religion, even adopting their Writing systems, which 21st Century Jews now falsely called things like "Proto-Hebrew" or "Paleo-Hebrew" or "Biblical-Hebrew" when they are plainly "Aramaic Dialects". -- User:DigDeep4Truth
• Hebrew speech claims Phonecian then var. Aramaic Scripts -- http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/History/history.html

DigDeep4Truth -- the name "Philistia" and slight variants probably goes back before 1000 B.C., but it was not too commonly used to refer to areas beyond the southern coastal plain until ca. 135 A.D., when the Roman emperor Hadrian changed the name of the Roman province of "IVDAEA" (Judea) to "PALAESTINA" (Palestine) for the specific purpose of spiting the Jews in the aftermath of the Second Jewish Revolt. Since Jesus did not come from the southern coastal plain area (and never even travelled there, as far as can be determined from the New Testament), therefore during his lifetime he would not have referred to himself or been referred to by others as "Palestinian"...
122.143.3.67 -- From 1917 to 1948 the word "Palestinian" was used to refer to all the inhabitants of the British-administered territory, including both Arabs and Jews. Before that time, the word "Palestine" was rather vague in meaning, and was used much more often by Europeans than actual inhabitants of the area. Not sure when "Palestinian" would have meant "Jew"... AnonMoos (talk) 14:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Look at the Map -> http://www.wdl.org/en/item/11745/zoom/#group=1&page=1&zoom=6.5562&centerX=0.2848&centerY=0.5562

Jerusalem is clearly in Palaeftina and Jesus did travel there. Where did you get a different idea from? -- 04:28, 29 January 2014‎ DigDeep4Truth;

Unfortunately for you, you don't seem to have bothered to read my message with any degree of attention. Jesus certainly lived in Palestine according to the post-135-A.D. definition of Palestine, but this is somewhat anachronistic, since during Jesus' lifetime, Palaestina basically meant Philistia, or the southern coastal plain area. By the way, that's not an "f"... AnonMoos (talk) 07:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

AnonMoos, "Unfortunately for you"...

1. The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia & Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece. Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, the first historical work clearly defining the region, which included the Judean mountains & Jordan Rift Valley.
2. Approximately a century later, Aristotle used a similar definition in Meteorology, writing "Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said. They say that this lake is so bitter and salt that no fish live in it and that if you soak clothes in it and shake them it cleans them," understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea. ` DigDeep4Truth (talk) 07:24, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

That's nice -- as has been discussed previously elsewhere, Herodotus seems to have been quite ignorant of areas beyond the coast in that part of the world, and knew absolutely nothing about Jews other than that they were circumcised like Egyptians. Those who were more knowledgeable generally used Παλαιστινη to refer mainly to the coastal plain area (i.e. Philistia). For example, Pausanias referred to Judea as being "above" Palestine (i.e. in the hills inland from the coast), and not "in" Palestine. The Greek words huper tês Palaistinês υπερ της Παλαιστινης "above Palaistine" can be seen at http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0159%3Abook%3D10%3Achapter%3D12%3Asection%3D9 . -- AnonMoos (talk) 08:24, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

AnonMoos, we've discussed this before. It defies credibility that you continue to push this WP:OR about Pausanias and other points. To refute your points:

• As you know, scholarly sources translate the Pausanias quote as "in Palestine" (see Timeline of the name "Palestine"
• Contemporary with that, c.130 BC: Agatharchides wrote "Near (Tiran) island is a promontory, which stretches towards the Rock of the Nabataeans and Palestine". The logic of this geographical description holds only if Palestine bordered Nabatea.
• Philistia in Biblical Greek was Φυλιστιειμ - a very different spelling
• The only reference is all written history or literature to Philistia being the southern coastal plane is in the bible, and even then only during the time of the books of judges and samuel.

Oncenawhile (talk) 10:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Oncenawhile -- I really don't know any such thing. You apparently dredged up something from somewhere, but I really have no idea who these people are or what they're referring to. Meanwhile, the translation of the well-known green-backed books (as well as the basic literal meaning of the ancient Greek words) is "above Palestine". Since you have no real knowledge of the ancient Greek language, I really don't know how you're in any position to evaluate or correct anything in this area. And your comment on Φυλιστιειμ reveals that you don't have any knowledge of the ancient Hebrew language either, since that's an obvious Greek transliteration of the Hebrew word פלשתים plishtim "Philistines" (plural noun). The Hebrew word for "Philistia" was פלשת peleshet (where the last vowel would not have been present in older pronunciation). "Philistia" is a standard term meaning land of the Philistines, including the main Philistine cities or Pentapolis -- Ashdod, Ashkelon, Ekron, Gath, and Gaza -- all located in the southern coastal plain... AnonMoos (talk) 03:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Comment. Guys, this is not a forum, please refrain from discussions unrelated to article improvement. -- 19:25, 31 January 2014‎ PLNR

Unfortunately, User:DigDeep4Truth didn't like my comments in reply to his on page "Talk:Jesus (name)" so he scanned my recent edit history and followed me over to this page. I've removed several of User:DigDeep4Truth's conspiracy tirades about the KKK and pointless personal attacks from this page, but left the history of Palestine thing (maybe I should have removed that as well, but I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt at that time)... AnonMoos (talk) 14:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

-- Until recently, even after Reading this Article I was under the Impression the United Nations(League of Nations) had invented a Mandatory Palestine (As if it were a construct). When it turns out the Country of Palestine has been Mapped since 500-400BCE by the Greeks. It is older than most European Countries! And still not allowed a Speaking Chair at the United Nations. A Holy Crusade Mocking move decided to let Palestine have a UN chair on Christmas 2012. On December 25 2012 they were recognized by the UN with a chair, but they are still not allowed to speak during UN meetings.

PLNR place make it clear that Palestine existed and the Greeks Gave it Boundaries 500-300BCE, it was on Roman Maps represented it 43CE, and it is on United Nations maps, some representing 400CE, long before the Mandatory Palestine took place. / United Nations Library, 400CE Palestine --http://www.wdl.org/en/item/11745/zoom/#group=1&page=1&zoom=5.4635&centerX=0.2820&centerY=0.5588 -- User:DigDeep4Truth

Sorry, but if "Palestine" was the name of an official administrative unit under the Ptolemaic or Seleucid empires (which I strongly doubt), then it would have referred to the southern coastal plain. It was not an official name of a Roman administrative unit until ca. 135 A.D. Before that time, it was frequently those who were most ignorant of inland areas (such as Herodotus) who extended the term "Palestine" (most commonly referring to the southern coastal plain) to cover such inland areas also. AnonMoos (talk) 14:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't lie to yourself like that. Sorry but your ignorance is so astounding. An "Official Administration"? That is the same argument England, France, and Spain used to cut up and Massacre the Native People for 500 years 1492 through the 1830's Trail of Tears into 2000's oil sand mining is leaching into the waters and giving cancer to an entire Tribe. They have a Government per Capital Hill but no Organized Military to resist invasion. ~ AnonMoos's Logic is the same logic used by slave traders to capture Africans and make them work on farms in America for free, because there wasn't a large government paroling the coast in boats with canons. AnonMoos logic is the same logic that kept Africans slaves even after the Atlantic Slave trade was ended, because they had no Government to stop people from stealing their Letters of Freedom and declaring them runaways to be made slaves again. AnonMoos's logic is that of Murders and Bullies who look down on other people, with their "Sorry" you weren't large enough to stop us from abusing or bullying you. Central Governments only exist for countries that have Central Military. And AnonMoos's life focus is Religious Crusades, so he can not see how his religion has smashed every citizen who lived by faith, but did not have a military to live by war.

Palestine did Exist. The Greeks said so repeatedly in their History and they included the Dead Sea which AnonMoos continues to lie about, claiming it was not until Rome expanded the borders. AnonMoos Argument for Rome shows AnonMoos only know the ways of violence and Religious Crusades, and does not wish to admit those without a Military, may also have a Government. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DigDeep4Truth (talk • contribs) 03:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)