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Volunteer Marek

Not closely related to the Eastern Europe discretionary sanctions so outside the jurisdiction of AE. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Volunteer Marek User who is submitting this request for enforcement walkee 12:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Misplaced Pages:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions: "Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict (defined as articles which relate to Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted) if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process." Volunteer Marek is subject to those sanctions and is placed officially on them by Thatcher (talk · contribs). Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 12 February 2014 "in your usual slimy way", "Stop being daft." 12 February 2014 "Luke, you seem to have a serious problem with reading comprehension and a propensity to respond to figments of your imagination rather than the actual situation. At the same time you appear to be easy to influence, apparently because you're lazy and not particularly... astute." "You are imagining things or you're deliberately misrepresenting things." "crying "notcensored!" like some twelve year old who doesn't get his way and calls his mommy a fascist, want to enable the harassment and humiliation" 12 February 2014 "your little agitation games" "behaving like the stereotype of an immature adolescent internet bully who revels in humiliating others for the fun of it and gets their kicks by exercising petty power in petty fashion. Oh, wait a minute, you don't even have any power, you're not even an admin, just another drama board groupie wasting people's time. Find better places to hang out than ANI" 12 February 2014 "an anonymous IP coward with obvious mental problems" 12 February 2014 "Look you moron" "I really hope you're just sitting there lying because it's hard to believe that anyone would be that stupid." 12 February 2014 "Worse you have a twisted sense of morality" "Do you have some special dispensation from God, the United Nations, or your local knitting club which says that "it's okay for Lukeno94 to act like an asshole on Misplaced Pages but no one is ever allowed to criticize him for it, because gosh darn it that's "harassment""? No? Then quit it with the double standards" "so stupid it hurts" "Again, you're full of shit and you're lying." 12 February 2014 "Is it really too much to ask that people actually bother thinking and checking before they come here and talk nonsense?" 12 February 2014 "you're making yourself look more and more ridiculous" "Calling your behavior "slimy" is putting it very very very mildly. I have never outed, abused, harassed ANYONE you little twerp!" Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Warned on AE, 12 May 2011 by EdJohnston (talk · contribs) for incivility Admonished on 7 June 2012 Kudpung (talk · contribs) for incivility Blocked on 19 July 2012 by DangerousPanda (talk · contribs) for personal attacks/harassment Warned on 11 December 2013 by Estlandia (talk · contribs) for personal attacks Note: This list is very incomplete: it is hard to find warnings against him because he deletes them immediately. Additional comments by editor filing complaint This user was with the EEML so this thread will be spammed by supporters and attacks against the messenger as always. These insults comes in response to a strongly founded but not uncontroversial diatribe that kept appearing on my watchlist . The essay laid out how Volunteer Marek was almost enjoying a carte blanche in the Eastern European topic area, mentioning over a dozen cases of reports where Piotrus tried to save him from consequences, against which Volunteer Marek now lashes out fiercely, unsurprisingly. I know that in this topic area you can't criticize without the messengers being attacked in defense. Recently that a user got topic-banned for 6 uncivil or personal attacks with less history in that regard than Volunteer Marek fills me with the hope that this can be ended better very late than never. This case is completely and directly related to the Rfa statement over which additionally Volunteer Marek edit-warred three times. This Rfa statement is almost completely about the Eastern European topic and the Eastern European mailing list. On a scale of 1-10 of relatedness, it would score an 11. I have disregarded the topic area for several months but I remember another warning for Volunteer Marek, although I found the closing admin's decision (Sandstein) regarding him too weak. A little later I discovered how Volunteer's treatment was standardized in the EE topic area, for example in regards to User:Skäpperöd, who then seems to have left Misplaced Pages in reaction: "you seem to be trying to obfuscate and confuse the issue on purpose" or "No, these are just pretext you've invented to remove a source you don't like." "just to watch you come up with yet another sneaky way of dodging that question" "based on nothing but your own personal feelings" "you sneaked that in" "that pretty much suggests that you are not engaging this discussion in good faith", "bullshit ... stop twisting words and trying to manipulate the conversation", "him manipulating the wording" "to skew the reader to his POV" "attempt to allow him to invent even more irrelevant excuses" "he's basically relying on your ignorance of this chunk of history to get away with it" "is just making up bullshit excuses per IDONTLIKEIT". The preceding Diffs are from last year where I was paying greater attention but someone with more time than me can look for more and they will find that accusations of bad intentions, personal attacks and incivility was and is a must for him. The current charges are completely related to the Eastern European topic are.--walkee 14:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Volunteer Marek notified: Discussion concerning Volunteer Marek Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Volunteer Marek And this has nothing to do with the DIGWUREN case. It's just another battleground account, filing another spurious request on a flimsy pretext.Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:07, 13 February 2014 (UTC) To be more precise, these comments were made in response to completely unfounded accusations (only "implied" at first, then made explicit) by another user that I was planning or actually capable or possibly engaged in writing Encyclopedia Dramatica attack pieces on other users. Someone accuses you of that, you'd get mad too. Either way, they were made in response to these particular accusations, and not in relation with anything to do with DIGWUREN (and please take a look at filer's editing history. Shows up out of nowhere, knows all the ins and outs, etc.) Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC) Statement by Lukeno94 Whilst there is little doubt that Marek should've been blocked for his actions in that thread, I'm not seeing how they fall under the ARBEE case, and thus, by extension, how AE is the place to request the block. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 13:14, 13 February 2014 (UTC) I'm certainly not going to argue against a block for Marek, but, as is evidenced by a reasonable post on my talkpage, I don't think you need to place an interaction between Marek and myself (regardless of if it was 1-way or 2-way), Sandstein, so please don't. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC) FPaS is making things up yet again. Marek's first comment was a personal attack on the IP, so no, I didn't start anything (although it does look like Marek's initial comment is not present in the ANI thread, or has moved so it looks like I'm commenting on absolutely nothing.) Nor did I state that another person had mental problems. I'd hoped to leave this be to finish on its own, but if I should be blocked for questioning Marek's character, then FPaS should be blocked for doing exactly the same thing about multiple editors... Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 22:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Statement by Giano I am completely and happily uninvolved with the EEML and any of its members. However, they have been under a lot of provocation lately. Piotrus had a perfect right to attempt to become an admin again; I'm less sure that an anon IP had the right to influence that attempt. That this has led to resentment and anger is understandable. I don't see Marek being totally abusive - I see some understandable anger and resentment. I don't see the point in penalising Marek, exasperation is not a crime in anyone's book. Blocking Marek for this will just lead to more festering resentment and animosity - who will that help? It's hardly an occurrence that's likely to be repeated. Giano 15:00, 13 February 2014 (UTC) Statement by The Devil's Advocate To me it seems that this matter falls within the scope of the discretionary sanctions. It is not as though this was some random dispute about some random people with some sort of connection to the Eastern European topic area. At the center of the ANI case was the repeated removal of evidence compiled against Piotrus showing that editor's misconduct with regards to Eastern European topics. Marek was apparently one of the people engaged in such removal and was connected to some of the misconduct in question. How Marek behaved during a noticeboard discussion about misconduct directly concerning the Eastern European topic area seems to fall within the bounds of the discretionary sanctions. Even if one were to argue that the link is too tenuous it does not mean that no action can be taken as any conduct issue raised here can be acted upon even if not through the discretionary sanctions. It would just be a normal administrative action subject to normal administrative review procedures.--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 00:22, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Statement by Piotrus I am torn here. On one hand, I've always argued for enforcing civility and NPA; and I usually agree with Sandstein. On the other, to issue sanctions only because of an argument that C/E Europe arbitration sanctions apply here seems rather ridiculous, or an exercise in advanced wikilawyering; those sanctions apply to content namespace, not RfA or ANI. I wouldn't have a problem with enforcing CIV/NPA or such, but to do so using a next-to-nonexistent connection to content-area arbitration ruling as an excuse is simply not right. What I do have a problem is a logic that seemingly creates two groups of editors: once editing in content areas with ArbCom sanctions (C/E Europe, presumably few others) and the rest. In other words, if VM was not editing C/E articles, but another controversial but without discretionary sanctions area, such as, let's say, abortion, he could have said exactly the same things and there would be no reason to act? That's putting some twisted letter of the law so beyond any spirit that I am simply amazed. Then there's also the usually forgotten argument that sanctions should be preventative, not punitive (yeah, I know, dead letter). Plus an issue of WP:BOOMERANG (it takes two to tango...). And perhaps someone would be so kind as to consider whether referencing to an Encyclopedia Dramatica article, where information such as real life names, personal addresses and death threats have been posted, is not a more serious issue to consider (I am not saying this as a general snide at ED, I am saying this as mine and Marek's real life info was posted there, accompanied by the said death threats... Anyway, I'd suggest issuing a bunch of civility warnings, and/or "next time, interaction ban will be considered" warnings, for a number of parties, and moving on. On a closing note, it is not the first time that RfA has seen major and likely nonpunishable violations of CIV/NPA and such. Perhaps we should consider issuing a set of discretionary sanctions to RfAs in general, subjecting comments of editors in that forum to above-average scrutiny, and violations of NPA and such there, subject to serious sanctions? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus\| reply here} 14:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Comment by arbitrator: Roger Davies No view whatsoever on the facts, just a comment on the underlying principle, posted not as a party but as an individual arbitrator. It has never, to my knowledge, been the intention of the committee that DS attaching to topic morph into DS for any individual who has ever edited within it. Roger Davies 17:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Comment by Fut.Perf. I'm not going to take admin action here myself, but I'd like to point out that if V.M. were to be sanctioned here, then User:Lukeno94 would certainly have to be sanctioned too. It was Lukeno's attacks on V.M. that provoked much of his outbursts, and the underhanded way Lukeno was implying V.M. was inolved, or likely to be involved, in real-life harassment of opponents, was odious indeed. Quote: "… the abuse they would get from the likes of Marek, and, given the various underhanded tactics that this group of editors have engaged in, if their account easily leads to the finding of their real name, they may well be very nervous of real-life repercussions" – it may not be as overtly intemperate in its wording as V.M.'s responses, but it is no less serious as a defamatory personal attack. Indeed, it is nothing short of character assassination. One might say it deserved every bit of the heat it got in response. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Result concerning Volunteer Marek This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. @Walkee: How does this relate to Eastern Europe - which is the area the sanctions are authorised for? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:23, 13 February 2014 (UTC) The link between the thread in question and the Eastern Europe discretionary sanctions is very tenuous bordering on non-existent so I don't see that AE can do anything here. Given this it looks like the issue has been dealt with. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC) I also strongly disagree with Sandstein on this one. My opinion is that if the Committee intended the discretionary sanctions to apply to all editors who edit that topic area (or who were involved in the case) they would have said that rather than restricting it to articles. Having re-read it I can see where you're coming from but I disagree with your interpretation. On sanctioning, given this and this I don't feel that blocking would be appropriate anymore however if another admin believes an interaction ban is necessary then AN (sort of a case request) would be the place to go. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC) I agree that the connection to Eastern European articles is practically non-existent, but while we're at it, I would support any form of censure for any editors who had reduced that discussion to a level this unseemly. This is toxic and it's only a matter of time before it does spill over to areas that we're allowed to police under the harsher decorum regime. --Joy (talk) 16:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC) I think that AE has jurisdiction here. The ANI thread in which these edits were made is a result of long-term feuds and animosities dating back to the WP:EEML arbitration case. This is a sufficient link to the Eastern Europe topic area. Discretionary sanctions were introduced in that case, in part, precisely to allow administrators to stop this kind of long-term battleground conduct. In addition, the relevant remedy, WP:ARBEE#Standard discretionary sanctions, says that "Articles which relate to Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions. Any uninvolved administrator may levy restrictions as an arbitration enforcement action on users editing in this topic area, after an initial warning." The wording of this remedy suggests that it is important that the editor at issue is actively editing in this topic area (which applies to Volunteer Marek, see their article contributions), and that the degree to which the misconduct is related to Eastern Europe is not a principal concern. WP:AC/DS#Authorization says something similar. On the merits, this report contains evidence of inexcusable repeated and severe violations of WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL, which are important policies. Volunteer Marek's confrontative response to this complaint illustrates that only a substantial sanction is likely to have any preventative effect. It must also be taken into account that Volunteer Marek has a lengthy block record for similar misconduct. I am of a mind to impose a one-month block and an interaction ban with respect to the users attacked by Volunteer Marek in this case. Sandstein 18:30, 13 February 2014 (UTC) I strongly disagree with Sandstein; it would be improper to extend the DS for the topic area of Eastern Europe to the RfA of an editor who happens to edit there. --Guerillero \| My Talk 23:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC) Considering the different opinions among admins here, I have suggested that the Committee clarify this issue in the upcoming rules review. See WT:AC/DSR#What relation between the misconduct and the area of conflict is needed?. Sandstein 15:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Do what you wish, but I still feel that any move, like the one above, to broaden DS beyond its normal scope, via unilateral action, is beyond the pale. --Guerillero \| My Talk 00:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC) I'm afraid I'm with Callanecc et al. The connection to the intended scope of discretionary sanctions is tenuous at best, and ANI is adequately equipped to deal with misconduct when it takes place on that board. HJ Mitchell \| Penny for your thoughts? 18:55, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Not closely related to the Eastern Europe discretionary sanctions so outside the jurisdiction of AE. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning Volunteer Marek

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: walkee 12:58, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested: Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Misplaced Pages:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions: "Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict (defined as articles which relate to Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted) if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process."

Volunteer Marek is subject to those sanctions and is placed officially on them by Thatcher (talk · contribs).

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

12 February 2014 "in your usual slimy way", "Stop being daft."
12 February 2014 "Luke, you seem to have a serious problem with reading comprehension and a propensity to respond to figments of your imagination rather than the actual situation. At the same time you appear to be easy to influence, apparently because you're lazy and not particularly... astute." "You are imagining things or you're deliberately misrepresenting things." "crying "notcensored!" like some twelve year old who doesn't get his way and calls his mommy a fascist, want to enable the harassment and humiliation"
12 February 2014 "your little agitation games" "behaving like the stereotype of an immature adolescent internet bully who revels in humiliating others for the fun of it and gets their kicks by exercising petty power in petty fashion. Oh, wait a minute, you don't even have any power, you're not even an admin, just another drama board groupie wasting people's time. Find better places to hang out than ANI"
12 February 2014 "an anonymous IP coward with obvious mental problems"
12 February 2014 "Look you moron" "I really hope you're just sitting there lying because it's hard to believe that anyone would be that stupid."
12 February 2014 "Worse you have a twisted sense of morality" "Do you have some special dispensation from God, the United Nations, or your local knitting club which says that "it's okay for Lukeno94 to act like an asshole on Misplaced Pages but no one is ever allowed to criticize him for it, because gosh darn it that's "harassment""? No? Then quit it with the double standards" "so stupid it hurts" "Again, you're full of shit and you're lying."
12 February 2014 "Is it really too much to ask that people actually bother thinking and checking before they come here and talk nonsense?"
12 February 2014 "you're making yourself look more and more ridiculous" "Calling your behavior "slimy" is putting it very very very mildly. I have never outed, abused, harassed ANYONE you little twerp!"

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

Warned on AE, 12 May 2011 by EdJohnston (talk · contribs) for incivility
Admonished on 7 June 2012 Kudpung (talk · contribs) for incivility
Blocked on 19 July 2012 by DangerousPanda (talk · contribs) for personal attacks/harassment
Warned on 11 December 2013 by Estlandia (talk · contribs) for personal attacks

Note: This list is very incomplete: it is hard to find warnings against him because he deletes them immediately.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

This user was with the EEML so this thread will be spammed by supporters and attacks against the messenger as always. These insults comes in response to a strongly founded but not uncontroversial diatribe that kept appearing on my watchlist . The essay laid out how Volunteer Marek was almost enjoying a carte blanche in the Eastern European topic area, mentioning over a dozen cases of reports where Piotrus tried to save him from consequences, against which Volunteer Marek now lashes out fiercely, unsurprisingly. I know that in this topic area you can't criticize without the messengers being attacked in defense. Recently that a user got topic-banned for 6 uncivil or personal attacks with less history in that regard than Volunteer Marek fills me with the hope that this can be ended better very late than never.

This case is completely and directly related to the Rfa statement over which additionally Volunteer Marek edit-warred three times. This Rfa statement is almost completely about the Eastern European topic and the Eastern European mailing list. On a scale of 1-10 of relatedness, it would score an 11. I have disregarded the topic area for several months but I remember another warning for Volunteer Marek, although I found the closing admin's decision (Sandstein) regarding him too weak. A little later I discovered how Volunteer's treatment was standardized in the EE topic area, for example in regards to User:Skäpperöd, who then seems to have left Misplaced Pages in reaction: "you seem to be trying to obfuscate and confuse the issue on purpose" or "No, these are just pretext you've invented to remove a source you don't like." "just to watch you come up with yet another sneaky way of dodging that question" "based on nothing but your own personal feelings" "you sneaked that in" "that pretty much suggests that you are not engaging this discussion in good faith", "bullshit ... stop twisting words and trying to manipulate the conversation", "him manipulating the wording" "to skew the reader to his POV" "attempt to allow him to invent even more irrelevant excuses" "he's basically relying on your ignorance of this chunk of history to get away with it" "is just making up bullshit excuses per IDONTLIKEIT". The preceding Diffs are from last year where I was paying greater attention but someone with more time than me can look for more and they will find that accusations of bad intentions, personal attacks and incivility was and is a must for him. The current charges are completely related to the Eastern European topic are.--walkee 14:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Volunteer Marek notified:

Discussion concerning Volunteer Marek

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

Statement by Volunteer Marek

And this has nothing to do with the DIGWUREN case. It's just another battleground account, filing another spurious request on a flimsy pretext.Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:07, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

To be more precise, these comments were made in response to completely unfounded accusations (only "implied" at first, then made explicit) by another user that I was planning or actually capable or possibly engaged in writing Encyclopedia Dramatica attack pieces on other users. Someone accuses you of that, you'd get mad too. Either way, they were made in response to these particular accusations, and not in relation with anything to do with DIGWUREN (and please take a look at filer's editing history. Shows up out of nowhere, knows all the ins and outs, etc.) Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Statement by Lukeno94

Whilst there is little doubt that Marek should've been blocked for his actions in that thread, I'm not seeing how they fall under the ARBEE case, and thus, by extension, how AE is the place to request the block. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 13:14, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm certainly not going to argue against a block for Marek, but, as is evidenced by a reasonable post on my talkpage, I don't think you need to place an interaction between Marek and myself (regardless of if it was 1-way or 2-way), Sandstein, so please don't. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

FPaS is making things up yet again. Marek's first comment was a personal attack on the IP, so no, I didn't start anything (although it does look like Marek's initial comment is not present in the ANI thread, or has moved so it looks like I'm commenting on absolutely nothing.) Nor did I state that another person had mental problems. I'd hoped to leave this be to finish on its own, but if I should be blocked for questioning Marek's character, then FPaS should be blocked for doing exactly the same thing about multiple editors... Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 22:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Statement by Giano

I am completely and happily uninvolved with the EEML and any of its members. However, they have been under a lot of provocation lately. Piotrus had a perfect right to attempt to become an admin again; I'm less sure that an anon IP had the right to influence that attempt. That this has led to resentment and anger is understandable. I don't see Marek being totally abusive - I see some understandable anger and resentment. I don't see the point in penalising Marek, exasperation is not a crime in anyone's book. Blocking Marek for this will just lead to more festering resentment and animosity - who will that help? It's hardly an occurrence that's likely to be repeated. Giano 15:00, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Statement by The Devil's Advocate

To me it seems that this matter falls within the scope of the discretionary sanctions. It is not as though this was some random dispute about some random people with some sort of connection to the Eastern European topic area. At the center of the ANI case was the repeated removal of evidence compiled against Piotrus showing that editor's misconduct with regards to Eastern European topics. Marek was apparently one of the people engaged in such removal and was connected to some of the misconduct in question. How Marek behaved during a noticeboard discussion about misconduct directly concerning the Eastern European topic area seems to fall within the bounds of the discretionary sanctions. Even if one were to argue that the link is too tenuous it does not mean that no action can be taken as any conduct issue raised here can be acted upon even if not through the discretionary sanctions. It would just be a normal administrative action subject to normal administrative review procedures.--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 00:22, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Statement by Piotrus

I am torn here. On one hand, I've always argued for enforcing civility and NPA; and I usually agree with Sandstein. On the other, to issue sanctions only because of an argument that C/E Europe arbitration sanctions apply here seems rather ridiculous, or an exercise in advanced wikilawyering; those sanctions apply to content namespace, not RfA or ANI. I wouldn't have a problem with enforcing CIV/NPA or such, but to do so using a next-to-nonexistent connection to content-area arbitration ruling as an excuse is simply not right. What I do have a problem is a logic that seemingly creates two groups of editors: once editing in content areas with ArbCom sanctions (C/E Europe, presumably few others) and the rest. In other words, if VM was not editing C/E articles, but another controversial but without discretionary sanctions area, such as, let's say, abortion, he could have said exactly the same things and there would be no reason to act? That's putting some twisted letter of the law so beyond any spirit that I am simply amazed.

Then there's also the usually forgotten argument that sanctions should be preventative, not punitive (yeah, I know, dead letter). Plus an issue of WP:BOOMERANG (it takes two to tango...). And perhaps someone would be so kind as to consider whether referencing to an Encyclopedia Dramatica article, where information such as real life names, personal addresses and death threats have been posted, is not a more serious issue to consider (I am not saying this as a general snide at ED, I am saying this as mine and Marek's real life info was posted there, accompanied by the said death threats... Anyway, I'd suggest issuing a bunch of civility warnings, and/or "next time, interaction ban will be considered" warnings, for a number of parties, and moving on.

On a closing note, it is not the first time that RfA has seen major and likely nonpunishable violations of CIV/NPA and such. Perhaps we should consider issuing a set of discretionary sanctions to RfAs in general, subjecting comments of editors in that forum to above-average scrutiny, and violations of NPA and such there, subject to serious sanctions? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Comment by arbitrator: Roger Davies

No view whatsoever on the facts, just a comment on the underlying principle, posted not as a party but as an individual arbitrator. It has never, to my knowledge, been the intention of the committee that DS attaching to topic morph into DS for any individual who has ever edited within it. Roger Davies 17:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Comment by Fut.Perf.

I'm not going to take admin action here myself, but I'd like to point out that if V.M. were to be sanctioned here, then User:Lukeno94 would certainly have to be sanctioned too. It was Lukeno's attacks on V.M. that provoked much of his outbursts, and the underhanded way Lukeno was implying V.M. was inolved, or likely to be involved, in real-life harassment of opponents, was odious indeed. Quote: "… the abuse they would get from the likes of Marek, and, given the various underhanded tactics that this group of editors have engaged in, if their account easily leads to the finding of their real name, they may well be very nervous of real-life repercussions" – it may not be as overtly intemperate in its wording as V.M.'s responses, but it is no less serious as a defamatory personal attack. Indeed, it is nothing short of character assassination. One might say it deserved every bit of the heat it got in response. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Result concerning Volunteer Marek

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@Walkee: How does this relate to Eastern Europe - which is the area the sanctions are authorised for? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:23, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- The link between the thread in question and the Eastern Europe discretionary sanctions is very tenuous bordering on non-existent so I don't see that AE can do anything here. Given this it looks like the issue has been dealt with. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
  - I also strongly disagree with Sandstein on this one. My opinion is that if the Committee intended the discretionary sanctions to apply to all editors who edit that topic area (or who were involved in the case) they would have said that rather than restricting it to articles. Having re-read it I can see where you're coming from but I disagree with your interpretation. On sanctioning, given this and this I don't feel that blocking would be appropriate anymore however if another admin believes an interaction ban is necessary then AN (sort of a case request) would be the place to go. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree that the connection to Eastern European articles is practically non-existent, but while we're at it, I would support any form of censure for any editors who had reduced that discussion to a level this unseemly. This is toxic and it's only a matter of time before it does spill over to areas that we're allowed to police under the harsher decorum regime. --Joy (talk) 16:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I think that AE has jurisdiction here. The ANI thread in which these edits were made is a result of long-term feuds and animosities dating back to the WP:EEML arbitration case. This is a sufficient link to the Eastern Europe topic area. Discretionary sanctions were introduced in that case, in part, precisely to allow administrators to stop this kind of long-term battleground conduct. In addition, the relevant remedy, WP:ARBEE#Standard discretionary sanctions, says that "Articles which relate to Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions. Any uninvolved administrator may levy restrictions as an arbitration enforcement action on users editing in this topic area, after an initial warning." The wording of this remedy suggests that it is important that the editor at issue is actively editing in this topic area (which applies to Volunteer Marek, see their article contributions), and that the degree to which the misconduct is related to Eastern Europe is not a principal concern. WP:AC/DS#Authorization says something similar.
On the merits, this report contains evidence of inexcusable repeated and severe violations of WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL, which are important policies. Volunteer Marek's confrontative response to this complaint illustrates that only a substantial sanction is likely to have any preventative effect. It must also be taken into account that Volunteer Marek has a lengthy block record for similar misconduct. I am of a mind to impose a one-month block and an interaction ban with respect to the users attacked by Volunteer Marek in this case. Sandstein 18:30, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with Sandstein; it would be improper to extend the DS for the topic area of Eastern Europe to the RfA of an editor who happens to edit there. --Guerillero | My Talk 23:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Considering the different opinions among admins here, I have suggested that the Committee clarify this issue in the upcoming rules review. See WT:AC/DSR#What relation between the misconduct and the area of conflict is needed?. Sandstein 15:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Do what you wish, but I still feel that any move, like the one above, to broaden DS beyond its normal scope, via unilateral action, is beyond the pale. --Guerillero | My Talk 00:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm with Callanecc et al. The connection to the intended scope of discretionary sanctions is tenuous at best, and ANI is adequately equipped to deal with misconduct when it takes place on that board. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:55, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Ronz

Both users officially notified of discretionary sanctions. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Ronz User who is submitting this request for enforcement Dmcq (talk) 20:59, 14 February 2014 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Ronz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change#Standard discretionary sanctions Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it Revision as of 17:34, 5 February 2014 Warnings and threats to others who have answered them, a repeat to focus on content and an attempt to divert the discussion from the topic of secondary sources. Revision as of 18:35, 31 January 2014 Gives a list of policies without being specific and says they have explained their position in the past. Will not give any specifics and threatens AE. Revision as of 18:10, 3 February 2014 Attempt to divert the discussion so no agreement is evident to something that they are already discussing elsewhere on the talk page. Revision as of 22:57, 12 February 2014 Yet again asking for sources when sources were provided in the first response with a diff pointing to the discussion. Revision as of 19:00, 14 February 2014 Unreasonable warning and accusation. Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Warned on Revision as of 17:25, 12 February 2014 by Dmcq (talk · contribs) Additional comments by editor filing complaint Latest revision as of 19:21, 14 February 2014 by NewsAndEventsGuy about summarizes the situation. Minor variations of objections keep being brought up and they require the whole business to be gone through without referring to the same thing before even with accurate pointers. And yet they will not give any accurate indication of their own objections just lists of whole policies without sections and not saying where they have explained themselves. They keep warning others to concentrate on the topic and warn about bringing them to here, yet they keep trying to divert discussions. @Sandstein: I guess I'm missing something. I thought the discretionary sanctions on those pages were supposed to be to stop disruptive conduct on them. What is the appropriate forum please to bring a complaint about someone who continually brings up the same sort of thing again and again in different discussion, quotes long lists of policies without explanation, threatens people, diverts discussion to things that are other discussion, doesn't acknowledge that they have read an acknowledged stuff very recently and asks for it again? Basically disruptive behaviour as NewsAndEventsGuy says? Or is there no such place and this is normal behaviour one must accept? I'm not expecting much to be done besides a formal warning from an administrator so they know they have been properly warned and something more can be done in the future if they continue on with it. Dmcq (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC) @Callanecc: The 6th AfD on the topic ended just last month and Ronz contributed to that Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming (6th nomination). I don't think it would be reasonable to renominate so soon. You can see his main contribution and reply to my enquiry about it at ]. Dmcq (talk) 11:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested AE Notice Discussion concerning Ronz Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Ronz I'm having trouble identifying how the descriptions of the diffs actually describe what was going on, much less how addressing them is beneficial to Misplaced Pages. I disagree with Dmcq's interpretations of key areas of dispute with the article, and have found that trying to discuss them only brings out battleground responses (User_talk:Dmcq#CONLEVEL, User_talk:Dmcq#IDIDNTHEARTHAT). It seems that these disagreements are what are being brought here, just without the proper context. --Ronz (talk) 18:47, 16 February 2014 (UTC) Statement by (username) Result concerning Ronz This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. As submitted, this complaint seems to have no merit, and borders on the frivolous. The submitter doesn't explain how exactly these talk page messages are supposed to violate any conduct policy or guideline, and it is not apparent from looking at them how they might do so. Also, there's no diff of a warning meeting the requirements of WP:AC/DS#Warnings. Sandstein 21:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC) Responding to Dmcq's second explanation, I have to agree with Sandstein. You still have not posted diffs or an explanation or justification for how what Ronz is doing is abusive, or violating our policies, or insulting people. He's perhaps obliquely threatening that the arbitration enforcement penalties are out there on the articles and can be used on troublemakers, but not to me evidently to abuse someone. In what way do you feel he has been abusive here? What, precisely, did he do wrong? Please explain. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 04:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC) Looking at the history, including the discussions linked in this comment by NewsAndEventsGuy, suggests that conversations on this talk page go round in circles. My suggestion would be that if Ronz doesn't believe that the list is notable then an AFD or an RFC is order, once that's done everyone can drop the stick and move on. As to what we should do at AE, given that neither Ronz or Dmcq have been officially notified of discretionary sanctions that seems to be an appropriate thing to do. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC) If there are no other comments in the next 24 hours or so I'll close with a discretionary sanctions notice to Ronz and Dmcq. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Both users officially notified of discretionary sanctions. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Request concerning Ronz

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Dmcq (talk) 20:59, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested: Ronz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Climate change#Standard discretionary sanctions

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Revision as of 17:34, 5 February 2014 Warnings and threats to others who have answered them, a repeat to focus on content and an attempt to divert the discussion from the topic of secondary sources.
Revision as of 18:35, 31 January 2014 Gives a list of policies without being specific and says they have explained their position in the past. Will not give any specifics and threatens AE.
Revision as of 18:10, 3 February 2014 Attempt to divert the discussion so no agreement is evident to something that they are already discussing elsewhere on the talk page.
Revision as of 22:57, 12 February 2014 Yet again asking for sources when sources were provided in the first response with a diff pointing to the discussion.
Revision as of 19:00, 14 February 2014 Unreasonable warning and accusation.

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

Warned on Revision as of 17:25, 12 February 2014 by Dmcq (talk · contribs)

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Latest revision as of 19:21, 14 February 2014 by NewsAndEventsGuy about summarizes the situation. Minor variations of objections keep being brought up and they require the whole business to be gone through without referring to the same thing before even with accurate pointers. And yet they will not give any accurate indication of their own objections just lists of whole policies without sections and not saying where they have explained themselves. They keep warning others to concentrate on the topic and warn about bringing them to here, yet they keep trying to divert discussions.

@Sandstein: I guess I'm missing something. I thought the discretionary sanctions on those pages were supposed to be to stop disruptive conduct on them. What is the appropriate forum please to bring a complaint about someone who continually brings up the same sort of thing again and again in different discussion, quotes long lists of policies without explanation, threatens people, diverts discussion to things that are other discussion, doesn't acknowledge that they have read an acknowledged stuff very recently and asks for it again? Basically disruptive behaviour as NewsAndEventsGuy says? Or is there no such place and this is normal behaviour one must accept? I'm not expecting much to be done besides a formal warning from an administrator so they know they have been properly warned and something more can be done in the future if they continue on with it. Dmcq (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

@Callanecc: The 6th AfD on the topic ended just last month and Ronz contributed to that Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming (6th nomination). I don't think it would be reasonable to renominate so soon. You can see his main contribution and reply to my enquiry about it at ]. Dmcq (talk) 11:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

AE Notice

Discussion concerning Ronz

Statement by Ronz

I'm having trouble identifying how the descriptions of the diffs actually describe what was going on, much less how addressing them is beneficial to Misplaced Pages.

I disagree with Dmcq's interpretations of key areas of dispute with the article, and have found that trying to discuss them only brings out battleground responses (User_talk:Dmcq#CONLEVEL, User_talk:Dmcq#IDIDNTHEARTHAT). It seems that these disagreements are what are being brought here, just without the proper context. --Ronz (talk) 18:47, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Ronz

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As submitted, this complaint seems to have no merit, and borders on the frivolous. The submitter doesn't explain how exactly these talk page messages are supposed to violate any conduct policy or guideline, and it is not apparent from looking at them how they might do so. Also, there's no diff of a warning meeting the requirements of WP:AC/DS#Warnings. Sandstein 21:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Responding to Dmcq's second explanation, I have to agree with Sandstein. You still have not posted diffs or an explanation or justification for how what Ronz is doing is abusive, or violating our policies, or insulting people. He's perhaps obliquely threatening that the arbitration enforcement penalties are out there on the articles and can be used on troublemakers, but not to me evidently to abuse someone.

In what way do you feel he has been abusive here? What, precisely, did he do wrong? Please explain. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 04:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the history, including the discussions linked in this comment by NewsAndEventsGuy, suggests that conversations on this talk page go round in circles. My suggestion would be that if Ronz doesn't believe that the list is notable then an AFD or an RFC is order, once that's done everyone can drop the stick and move on. As to what we should do at AE, given that neither Ronz or Dmcq have been officially notified of discretionary sanctions that seems to be an appropriate thing to do. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:32, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

If there are no other comments in the next 24 hours or so I'll close with a discretionary sanctions notice to Ronz and Dmcq. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Yossiea

Yossiea blocked for 24 hours (now expired) for breaching 1RR and notified of discretionary sanctions. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Request concerning Yossiea

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: IRISZOOM (talk) 07:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested: Yossiea (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:ARBPIA

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

06:37, 17 February 2014 This is her first revert after removing the Gaza Strip as one of the territories being under occupation. Yossiea got reverted by Sepsis II and she responded with this revert. While this revert is little after the 24 hour period, it may still be seen as a revert but either way, the two reverts after is enough.
02:33, 18 February 2014 First revert in a 24 hour period.
06:56, 18 February 2014 Second revert in a 24 hour period.

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

I am astonished by Yossiea's actions. This is not what I would expect from a user who has edited so long, even less by someone who has rollback and reviewer rights.

She removed the Gaza Strip from the list of territories being occupied. This was sourced with this by UN. While it is acceptable to make changes, it is not acceptable to trying to enforce your own view, and keep in mind she is not offering any sources and has been informed that many still see it as occupied, as she has done by constantly removing the Gaza Strip from the list and demanding that we discuss it. She wrote this in her first edit summary about this: "Removing Gaza Strip, regardless of what the UN says, there is no Israeli military occupation of the Strip, it could be stated that Hamas is occupying Gaza, but I guess we can't go there". In her second edit, she wrote this "No matter what, there is no military occupation of Gaza". Then she reverted another time. I reverted her saying "You need sources for that. Presenting your own opinion is not enough". She responded by saying "Please see Talk Page and discuss first. Evidence? Are you saying Israel didn't withdraw from Gaza????". This was already discussed in the talk page, including by me who had wrote there and offered a soloution. She wrote this in the talk page after her last revert: "It's not disputed, the Israeli military withdrew from Gaza". Is it this she mean with discuss? On 02:34, 18 February 2014, she went to Sepsis II's talk page and warned him for "disruptive editing".

I am not 100% sure if this is covered by ARBIA. She was warned on 02:53, 18 February 2014 by Sepsis II on the article's talk page that "The section is also under 1RR which you have broken and may be blocked for, please revert per BRD rather than edit war". She wrote to him there two hours later so she must have seen it in that small section and Sepsis had put up an ARBIA header. She should not have reverted again on 06:56, 18 February 2014 and had the time to self-revert.

Yossiea did also canvass by writing "At List of military occupations Gaza Strip is being inserted under the "current" section of military occupations even though Israel withdrew. You might want to take a look and add your comments" in Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Israel. --IRISZOOM (talk) 07:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

How do you mean it is a violaton by Sepsis II? One revert was 03:14, 16 February 2014‎ and the other one 14:04, 17 February 2014‎.

I do not think Sepsis II meant Yossiea was "clueless" but that he was for getting a warning by her for "disruptive editing". I was also clueless when I saw that. --IRISZOOM (talk) 08:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Yes.

Discussion concerning Yossiea

Statement by Yossiea

Statement by (username)

Statement by Sepsis

I'll try to use words like astounded and flabbergasted when I think of the baseless attacks by editors like Yossiea and Magog. Sepsis II (talk) 13:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Result concerning Yossiea

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I've blocked Yossiea (talk · contribs) for 24 hours for breaching 1RR (3RR as well in fact so no excuses). I've also notified them of discretionary sanctions so we can't do much about anything else at the moment expect maybe the possibility of a compromised account. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Collapsing previous comment, see below for version 2. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

We may also want to look at Sepsis II (talk · contribs) who reverted twice 1 and 2 so breached 1RR. However my other concern is this edit summary which called Yossiea "clueless" given the sanction imposed Magog the Ogre three months ago regarding personal attacks we should probably look at blocks for breaching 1RR and the personal attack. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll try that again: Given this edit summary in which Sepsis II (talk · contribs) called Yossiea clueless and the sanction imposed by Magog the Ogre three months ago regarding personal attacks we may want to look at sanctions, possibly a warning. That'll depend on what Sepsis was referring to; a direct personal attack or as IRISZOOM describes. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Yosseia was clueless. He WP:TEMPLARed Sepsis, and he warned him for "vandalism" (see this essay I wrote up just for situations like this for why that's wrong). Magog the Ogre (t • c) 22:04, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

That edit summary wasn't really egregious; the warning was silly, and a reasonable person might have struggled to show restraint in reverting the edit. The best thing (for everyone) to do is to let it go. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:06, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy with that so I'm closing this request now. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Ivan Štambuk

Ivan Štambuk is blocked for a week. Sandstein 12:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Ivan Štambuk User who is submitting this request for enforcement Shokatz (talk) 21:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested Ivan Štambuk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Sanction or remedy to be enforced WP:ARBMAC Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it 16:35, 17 February 2014 He blatantly labels me a "nationalist" without any provocation for the first time. 01:22, 18 February 2014 Again labeling me a "Croatian nationalsit" after I warned him not to WP:CANVASS other users. 20:19, 17 February 2014 Yet again indirectly accusing me (and everyone else in that discussion) as "nationalists". 10:14, 19 February 2014 Even starts a new thread on WP:ANI again stating: I am getting overrun on this article by several Croatian nationalists. 19:20, 19 February 2014 And yet again, blatant ad hominem on WP:ANI. He states: But you are Croatian nationalists. 19:24, 19 February 2014 He claims to be a victim of coordinated attacks by nationalists who try to outnumber dissenters and yet again goes for a blatant ad hominem: You're a POV pusher that needs to be forbidden from editing this article. Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required) Additional comments by editor filing complaint The user in question was an instigator of a couple of content disputes, most notably on Ivan Gundulić. Now I wouldn't usually mind it nor the long tirades on the talk page but this user has shown such a blatant incivility and made so many ad hominem personal attacks towards me (and other users) that I no longer can ignore this. He crossed the line as far as I am concerned. He was warned for this before . I would also point out that he did a blatant attempt of WP:CANVASS here to a user recently topic-banned from Balkan related articles per WP:ARBMAC. Do note that I have also started a SPI as I believe he openly admitted to be a known sock-puppeteer PaxEquilibrium. Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested Notified here Discussion concerning Ivan Štambuk Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Ivan Štambuk If you are insulted by being called a nationalist (it's not an insult) you should have said so. Though I personally find it very hard to believe. I didn't canvass anybody - the message I left at User:Slovenski Volk's talkpage was related to an entirely different topic. Sockpuppet investigation is a joke, I'm not PaxEquilibrium or PravdaRuss. These reports that you keep making against me are nothing but harassment. You're the one that should have ARBMAC enforced for POV-pushing in Balkans-related topics. My edits were all done with NPOV in mind, while you were the one who removed NPOV notice from ], and removed Serbian writer/language from the article. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 21:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Whatever you may think, calling someone a "nationalist" is WP:PA and a violation of WP:CIVIL and since it is on Balkan-related articles, also under WP:ARBMAC. You have been warned by others not to do so as well . Now I find it hard to believe that your reply to User:Slovenski Volk was related "to a completely different topic" when you explicitly asked for help starting with: I keep running into conflicts with Croatian nationalists... while looking at your contrib page and seeing your main focus at that time was the article where you were discussing with me and other users. As for your accusations, you can see that my only edit during that whole incident was this. If you refer to my edit prior to asking for the lockdown of the page, I reverted both you and other users who were about to start an edit war with you...the page was restored to the version prior the conflict and locked by an admin. Shokatz (talk) 12:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC) Statement by (username) Result concerning Ivan Štambuk This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. Quick note to save others from looking, both users have been notified of discretionary sanctions. Shokatz in October 2013 and Ivan Štambuk in October 2010. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC) While calling others "nationalists" is not an insult, it is a derogatory statement about the person of another editor, in violation of WP:NPA's instruction to "comment on content, not on the contributor." Editors must at all times focus their discussion on the content of articles, not on the persons of others. Per WP:WIAPA, personal attacks do include "national ... epithets ... directed against another contributor" or "using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views". The request has merit. Because Ivan Štambuk's reply fails to reflect an understanding of this, I am blocking him for a week to prevent the recurrence of this conduct. Sandstein 12:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Ivan Štambuk is blocked for a week. Sandstein 12:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Request concerning Ivan Štambuk

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Shokatz (talk) 21:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested: Ivan Štambuk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:ARBMAC

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

16:35, 17 February 2014 He blatantly labels me a "nationalist" without any provocation for the first time.
01:22, 18 February 2014 Again labeling me a "Croatian nationalsit" after I warned him not to WP:CANVASS other users.
20:19, 17 February 2014 Yet again indirectly accusing me (and everyone else in that discussion) as "nationalists".
10:14, 19 February 2014 Even starts a new thread on WP:ANI again stating: I am getting overrun on this article by several Croatian nationalists.
19:20, 19 February 2014 And yet again, blatant ad hominem on WP:ANI. He states: But you are Croatian nationalists.
19:24, 19 February 2014 He claims to be a victim of coordinated attacks by nationalists who try to outnumber dissenters and yet again goes for a blatant ad hominem: You're a POV pusher that needs to be forbidden from editing this article.

Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

The user in question was an instigator of a couple of content disputes, most notably on Ivan Gundulić. Now I wouldn't usually mind it nor the long tirades on the talk page but this user has shown such a blatant incivility and made so many ad hominem personal attacks towards me (and other users) that I no longer can ignore this. He crossed the line as far as I am concerned. He was warned for this before . I would also point out that he did a blatant attempt of WP:CANVASS here to a user recently topic-banned from Balkan related articles per WP:ARBMAC. Do note that I have also started a SPI as I believe he openly admitted to be a known sock-puppeteer PaxEquilibrium.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Notified here

Discussion concerning Ivan Štambuk

Statement by Ivan Štambuk

If you are insulted by being called a nationalist (it's not an insult) you should have said so. Though I personally find it very hard to believe. I didn't canvass anybody - the message I left at User:Slovenski Volk's talkpage was related to an entirely different topic. Sockpuppet investigation is a joke, I'm not PaxEquilibrium or PravdaRuss. These reports that you keep making against me are nothing but harassment. You're the one that should have ARBMAC enforced for POV-pushing in Balkans-related topics. My edits were all done with NPOV in mind, while you were the one who removed NPOV notice from ], and removed Serbian writer/language from the article. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 21:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Whatever you may think, calling someone a "nationalist" is WP:PA and a violation of WP:CIVIL and since it is on Balkan-related articles, also under WP:ARBMAC. You have been warned by others not to do so as well . Now I find it hard to believe that your reply to User:Slovenski Volk was related "to a completely different topic" when you explicitly asked for help starting with: I keep running into conflicts with Croatian nationalists... while looking at your contrib page and seeing your main focus at that time was the article where you were discussing with me and other users. As for your accusations, you can see that my only edit during that whole incident was this. If you refer to my edit prior to asking for the lockdown of the page, I reverted both you and other users who were about to start an edit war with you...the page was restored to the version prior the conflict and locked by an admin. Shokatz (talk) 12:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Ivan Štambuk

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.

Quick note to save others from looking, both users have been notified of discretionary sanctions. Shokatz in October 2013 and Ivan Štambuk in October 2010. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

While calling others "nationalists" is not an insult, it is a derogatory statement about the person of another editor, in violation of WP:NPA's instruction to "comment on content, not on the contributor." Editors must at all times focus their discussion on the content of articles, not on the persons of others. Per WP:WIAPA, personal attacks do include "national ... epithets ... directed against another contributor" or "using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views". The request has merit. Because Ivan Štambuk's reply fails to reflect an understanding of this, I am blocking him for a week to prevent the recurrence of this conduct. Sandstein 12:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)