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Template:Southland Conference West
unused. Frietjes (talk) 23:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox college marching band UK
Only three transclusions. Redundant to, and possible fork of, {{Infobox college marching band}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Infobox college marching band.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox college marching band Canada
Only two transclusions. Redundant to, and possible fork of, {{Infobox college marching band}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:41, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Infobox college marching band.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox government cabinet
- Template:Infobox government cabinet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 178)
- Template:Infobox cabinet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 110)
Propose merging Template:Infobox government cabinet with Template:Infobox cabinet.
Apparently, these serve the same purpose. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- do not merge, they don't serve the same purpose. Frietjes (talk) 23:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- In which case, what are the differences? Why are thy neither documented, nor apparent from the template names? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- The fact that they are undocumented and have similar titles are indeed problems that need to be fixed, but do not constitute reasons to merge them. If you look at how they are used on articles, you'll see that they indeed serve a different purpose: Infobox cabinet only provides a list of (US-style) cabinet members or similar appointments, whereas Infobox government cabinet contains various data about cabinets of parliamentary-system governments. I think improvement is certainly welcome, but I wouldn't merge them in their current forms. SPQRobin (talk) 14:50, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- In which case, what are the differences? Why are thy neither documented, nor apparent from the template names? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- Do not merge, they don't serve the same purpose. Kndimov (talk) 00:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox secondary school
Redundant to {{Infobox school}}, which has over ten times the number of transclusions. Keep as a redirect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- merge Frietjes (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - This template has 1989 transclusions; it's on is too many pages to make such a drastic change easily. This infobox usefully distinguishes secondary schools from other schools. - tucoxn\ 21:06, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- The number alone is nor a reason to keep; nor is the change overly complex (simply make the template a wrapper for {{Infobox school}}; have a bot 'subst:' it when done). A good number, probably the majority, of articles using {{Infobox school}} are about secondary schools; the distinction is already lost. Furthermore, {{Infobox school}} has a
|type=parameter, so that the distinction can be made unambiguously. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- The number alone is nor a reason to keep; nor is the change overly complex (simply make the template a wrapper for {{Infobox school}}; have a bot 'subst:' it when done). A good number, probably the majority, of articles using {{Infobox school}} are about secondary schools; the distinction is already lost. Furthermore, {{Infobox school}} has a
- Merge as Andy said, most articles about secondary schools already use Infobox school.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 13:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge. Number may not be a reason to keep, but why produce unnecessary pain and effort? A merge meets multiple goals and is simple. -- Bill-on-the-Hill (talk) 14:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox rare currency
Only five transclusions. Redundant to {{Infobox currency}} (Transclusion count: 369), into which any required parameters may be added. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and replace with IB currency.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox School System
Single use. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- redirect to template:infobox school district (replaced here). Frietjes (talk) 19:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Boldly done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox subnational economy
Only 17 transclusions. Redundant to {{Infobox economy}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:07, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- merge with infobox economy. Frietjes (talk) 19:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Patriarchate
Five transclusions; virtually identical to Template:Infobox official post. A sample conversion can be found here. eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- merge with official post. Frietjes (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as redundant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:46, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox court case 2
- Template:Infobox court case (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox court case 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Infobox court case 2 with Template:Infobox court case.
A suggested in #2's documentation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Support, particularly as the creator of "Infobox court case 2" himself suggests a merger. — Cheers, JackLee 11:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Support, of course. Unless there have been recent changes to IB court case, they can be merged by simply copying court case 2 to court case.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:04, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Neutral, I like the light-blue background highlighting that appears in court case 2 as it structures the different sections of the infobox better than alternatives and so if this merge goes forward, then I think we should adopt the layout of cc2 as an improvement over cc, but it's unclear from this proposal which format will survive the merger. Brianwc (talk) 20:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I don't see how they are meant to merge, though. Do you just mean to scrap no 2, and so lose the blue bits? If that's it, then I'm all in favour if the creator is suggesting it. Wikidea 12:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
- Support, with Brianwc's modification - the light-blue background highlighting in Infobox court case 2 should be added to Infobox court case if merged. Ithinkicahn (talk) 10:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose, I'm afraid sorry, if we want to have a debate about the way to change the generic infobox, that should be done separately. This isn't really a merging debate, but a changing the templates debate. If you want a changing the templates debate that's absolutely fine: but we need to know what the proposal actually looks like before it's possible to make an informed choice. Wikidea 12:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- Support a merge either way (no preference on the blue highlights) —PC-XT+ 08:25, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Italian wine
Only seven transclusions. Redundant to {{Infobox grape variety}} (Transclusion count: 352) or {{Infobox wine region}} (Transclusion count: 369). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure about this one, the articles are about the wine brand, rather than the kind of grape or the region of origin. What about using Template:Infobox beverage?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- These don't appear to be merely brands, but regions. e.g. Ostuni DOC -> "The village of Ostuni that lends it name to DOC region". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:49, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- keep pending demonstration of redundancy. Frietjes (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- You say that in a number of discussions. It's tiresome. Just look at the template names, let alone their descriptions; the redundancy is readily apparent. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- I looked again and it appears it is not redundant, so keep it pending a demonstration of redundancy. Frietjes (talk) 01:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Again: the redundancy is readily apparent, even from just the template names. See also the comment from User:Agne27, below. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:57, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I looked again and it appears it is not redundant, so keep it pending a demonstration of redundancy. Frietjes (talk) 01:19, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- You say that in a number of discussions. It's tiresome. Just look at the template names, let alone their descriptions; the redundancy is readily apparent. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - As a wine editor (though admittedly one who hates infoboxes), the Italian one is redundant to {{Infobox wine region}}. An Italian Denominazione di origine controllata (DOC) or DOCG is a wine region, much like an American Viticultural Area (AVA). It is not a wine brand, like Cold Duck or Charles Shaw. Numerous different wineries can produce several different wines or wine brands within a DOC/G as long as they follow the particular laws and regulations for that DOC/G. Agne/ 23:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox wine grape variety
Only 26 transclusions. Redundant to {{Infobox grape variety}} (Transclusion count: 352). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge with grape variety, they cover the same topic.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge with grape variety. Two different infoboxes are not needed to cover the same topic. Agne/ 23:52, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox dark nebula
- Template:Infobox dark nebula (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 14)
- Template:Infobox diffuse nebula (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 73)
Propose merging Template:Infobox dark nebula with Template:Infobox diffuse nebula.
Very similar templates. Merge as {{Infobox nebula}}, with a |type= parameter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge per nom.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:09, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment if these are merged, the names should remain as redirects; and a new edit history should start with the new merged form, with the old edit histories residing at the old names. The new merged template should also use a third color to indicate when type is not selected. (there are more than two types of nebulae, so third color is needed anwyays, and more when the other types are filled in) -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 00:22, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- History attribution can be taken care of with {{copied}} on the three talk pages. -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 10:51, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox hotspot custom
- Template:Infobox hotspot custom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Infobox moon hot spot data (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Infobox hotspot custom with Template:Infobox moon hot spot data.
Similar templates; only three transclusions between them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge per nom.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:09, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment it appears you can subst and delete the "moon" one, since it calls "infobox hotspot custom" -- 70.50.151.11 (talk) 00:33, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox extrasolar planet
Only five transclusions. Redundant to {{Infobox planet}} (Transclusion count: 11,905) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, Infobox planet is already the most used infobox for extrasolar planets.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:58, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Orthodox Diocese
- Template:Infobox Orthodox Diocese (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 26)
- Template:Infobox former Orthodox Diocese (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 3)
- Template:Infobox Medieval Scottish Diocese (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 6)
Redundant to {{Infobox diocese}} (Transclusion count: 2,753), to which any necessary parameters should be added. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Merge IB Orthodox Diocese and former Orthodox Diocese to Infobox diocese; not sure about Medieval Scottish Diocese since it has a large number of very specific parameters which would be useless for all other articles about dioceses.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 12:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:Infobox Orthodox Church
- Template:Infobox Orthodox Church (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 80)
- Template:Infobox Anglican Church (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (Transclusion count: 40)
Propose merging Template:Infobox Orthodox Church with Template:Infobox Anglican Church.
Propose merge as "Infobox Christian church body" (or similar final word; to distinguish from infobox for church buildings) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Support. The template could then be used for other Christian denominations. -- Hazhk 13:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Template:International young physicists' tournaments
- Template:International young physicists' tournaments (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
currently only navigates one sub-article. Frietjes (talk) 01:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, not useful for navigation.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 11:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator....William 13:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)