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Salam
As salam o alekum wa rehmatullahe wa barkarthu. i am just here to have a word with you. You have been here on[REDACTED] for a long time, i am very new here. i had just uploaded my first article and everybody pounced on the article. You might have experienced the feeling. Just see how many times my article was deleted again and again. On their official website they had put up a link to nominate this article for deletion. i am not an editor like you are but i just wanted to put up a decent article based on factual information. i think i might have hurt somebody , but i didn't mean to. i didn't even think there would be a fight over it. i am still learning posting in wikipedia, for during all this deleting and reverting nobody told me the flaws in the article. so when You pointed it out to me i rectified it and if You tell me i will further improve it. i am still at a loss as to how to make the article neutral. because all that i have mentioned is the truth as of date and i have used the best words to my ability to describe it. i have more, much more information about this topic but it would not fit the Misplaced Pages criteria. further more this article is about a sect that is kept as a secret, so how is it possible to get references about it. So the references i have placed from newspapers, though on another topic but my intention was to focus on the mention of Qutbi Bohra and not the article in question. Because Qutbi Bohra is not connected to the succession issue that i will prove it to you when this link goes live. i am in the process of writing my second article, that will make it clear that Qutbi Bohra is not connected to the succession issue. merging the article for just the newspaper information will not make any sense as i have used these reference to prove the exsistence of Qutbi Bohra and not for the content of the said articles.You can say that i have been forced to write my second article just to prove that Qutbi Bohra is not connected to the succession issue or for that matter with Dawoodi Bohra sect. i am just getting my second article ready to be published on[REDACTED] according to the terms of wikipedia. i have made the necessary changes as mentioned by you in Qutbi Bohra article. i request you to please not consider it for deletion before reading the second article. Furthermore i would like to state again that i would not have written the second article if the difference between Qutbi Bohra and succession issue was not so ambigious. and trust me all these people who were deleting my article again and again know what i am going to say in the second article because they are going to do what i am going to write. for a person new to this issue it may feel strange. But for the people who have planned it and are executing it is just a money game to bend religion according to their wishes. i am sorry i am telling you all this, but once you read my second article you too will have strong feelings towards all this that is happening. Shukran. i took too much of your time. i apologise. take care and thank you very much for your valuable time.
note: i hope i have written this explaination on the right side of the talk page, where you can see it. if not i am sorry this is my first time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Araz5152 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Eid Mubarak!!
Greetings.... | |
Salam! How are you? And how had your Eid been? Hope you were completely fine and had a really splendid Eid... Please accept my greetings too! The Moon has been sighted here, too and we will be celebrating Eid tomorrow, In sha Allah... —Шαмıq ☪ тαʟκ✍ @ 17:30, 8 August 2013 (UTC) |
- Greetings from me too! May you live happily for ever. Faizan 17:48, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, happy Eid to you guys too. Sorry, I saw this soon after you both commented but I said "let me reply to them later" and forgot about it. Look forward to seeing you two graduate some day soon. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
- No problem at all! Better late than never... And yeah, but you will have to still wait a lot before we can call ourselves ‘graduates’. Anyways, I will wish you again on the eve of ‘the Greater Eid’ in sha Allah. Till then, please pray for our good academic results...—Шαмıq ☪ тαʟκ✍ @ 12:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, happy Eid to you guys too. Sorry, I saw this soon after you both commented but I said "let me reply to them later" and forgot about it. Look forward to seeing you two graduate some day soon. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Request for translation
Good day,
since you are apparently willing to translate Arabic texts for hapless Wikipedians I thought I'd ask, if you would help me out. It's not a lot, just a couple of words, so here we go:
- الدعدع
- The above is a name, and I need the English transcription for it. (Full name was: امين على امين الدعدع)
- بطلقتات
- The above was used in the following: اثر اصابته بطلقتات ناريه بالصدر
- بالرقيه
- The word was used in the following context: اثر اصابته بطلقات ناريه بالرقيه والصدر
Thanks in advance. (Lord Gøn (talk) 20:32, 23 August 2013 (UTC))
- Oh, that's the last name of one of those shooting victims. I saw that. Well, there's a letter in there we don't have in English, Ayin, and it's like a vowel sound but comes deeper down in the back of the throat. The word is roughly pronounced da'da' where the apostrophes are are the Arabic letter ayn. Keep in mind, though, that the victim is Egyptian and Egyptians have notoriously weird pronunciations when they use standard Arabic words, so it could end up being something more like de'a de'a, and considering the victims seem to have been villagers/small town folk, the English spelling (all Egyptian citizens have their names in both Arabic and English in their passports) could have been completely wrong in terms of phonetics. I would suggest the spelling Al-Daedae as excessive apostrophes in the name might seem strange to native speakers of English, though I guess Al-De'de' would be the closest to Egyptian pronunciation if you prefer using apostrophes for the letter ayn. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:23, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- I see. Well, I'll try to find out how transcription of that letter is generally handled here on Misplaced Pages, maybe there's a guideline or something, and then decide what version to use. Any suggestions on the other two words? (Lord Gøn (talk) 17:36, 26 August 2013 (UTC))
- Oh, I completely ignored the other words. Both of them are misspelled though. بطلقتات means "by gunshot wounds" and رقيه means "sensitive" and could likely be a euphemism for the victim being shot below the belt, though it would be better to see that written in more than one source before writing it that way. As for guidelines then there might not be - the problem is that Arabic speakers themselves will spell their names differently with Latin letters depending on whether their nation was colonized by Britain or France. I will see if I can find some sort of a guideline too. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Message
Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Abu Yusuf Riyadh ul Haq
Assalamu alaykum, I hope you are well. Any chance you could look at this page: Abu Yusuf Riyadh ul Haq ? One editor seems intent on making it into a fan page and adding unreferenced, or poorly referenced, material. My regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- User:GorgeCustersSabre, I sure will. I'm seeing a number of violations of WP:IRS already. If the user in question is motivated, perhaps some education on basic site policies and guidelines can help them to fine tune their editing. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Waris Ali Shah
Hi, I saw your deletion template on the article Waris Ali Shah, since you put it there I had done some additions based on RS and think that the deletion template should be removed. Please have a look on the article and if you agree with me then we can have deletion template removed from there. Thanks.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haidercs 22:07, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- User:Faizhaider, the work you did on that article is stupendous and just the sort of sourcing work needed; prior to that, I really didn't think the subject was notable or that some of the material on there was true. Good job, and I removed the template. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:04, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
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AfD discussions
I'm a little concerned that all of your recent AfD nominations appear to be for topics with connections to the Barelvi movement. Is there any particular reason for this, or is it just coincidence? Phil Bridger (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- @User:Phil Bridger, thanks for expressing your concerns here; they're valid and I do value the feedback on my editing. There is a reason but it isn't related to the movement itself; it's related to the user behind the specific articles I nominated. The shortest way I could put it is that during Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Msoamu/Archive, it was found that several users who have edit-warred on Barelvi related articles for six years were the same person the whole time, as they later confessed. This was all revealed about four and a half months ago. Another month and a half ago while bored and Wikisurfing via my own talk page archives, I realized that one of the sockpuppet accounts had created a fake portal linking to fake articles. The portal is still there as I don't quite know how to handle it, but I looked at articles the various socks had created during the blocks of the main account.
- A great deal of what they created was so obviously non-notable and solely intended to create online buzz, that some of it was prodded or even speedily deleted (I was the nom for said deletions). Anything about which I suspected was non-notable due to the antics I've seen from these accounts for the past six years, I nominated for AfD as suspicion alone isn't grounds for speedy or prod; a community-wide discussion for that would be required. Anything that was clearly notable, and I simply cut out all the peacock terms and ridiculous POV pushing.
- I am assuming that since you did take the time to contact me personally, my recent editing must be a cause of concern for others. Please look over what I read here, and if you feel any of the recent nominations were baseless or incorrect in some other way then voicing such concerns could help me to adjust any problematic behavior on my part. Don't worry, I have thick skin and I don't get offended by criticism. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. I no longer have any concerns. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Muawiyah I
Yesterday I said to Adjwilley:
- We spent a year going through the Muawiya I article and collecting the information and going through hundreds of books. The Muawiya I article is related to the "First Fitna" article and the "Battle of the Camel" articles. We spent a lot of time on it. I put some of the background information on the "First Fitna" article and the "Battle of the Camel" article but Zabranos removed it. I don't have the time to edit war and don't want to edit war. I have a busy work schedule and already spend a lot of time in the evenings going through hundreds of books collecting information. Adjwilley if you have some time, can you please review every things. Adjwilley, since you are the admin, I don't mind what decision you make or what changes you make. We just need to make sure that the articles are accurate, neutral and not offensive to anyone. Thanks --Johnleeds1 (talk) 20:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
He replied:
- You might be interested to know that User:Zabranos was blocked today for abusing multiple accounts. (See here for details.) It looks like they were blocked for a week, so things should calm down a bit on that front. I'll have a look at the articles tomorrow, though I'll warn you, this isn't my area of expertise. ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:41, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Thanks for the positive attitude
Pass a Method talk 11:16, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for help in Muhammad Abduh page
Thanks--Ashashyou (talk) 05:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your envigilation, actually. The site really needs more people willing to watch biography articles on Middle Eastern people. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:17, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Bin Baz page naming
I see you have commented on this issue before, and I have opened a new discussion about how to resolve the fact that the page name and the name in the article do not agree with each other. I encourage you to add your voice. --Jprg1966 08:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
- Commented. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Interest
This discussion may interest you. Pass a Method talk 09:39, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Watch list
Please could you add List of casualties in Hussain's army at the Battle of Karbala to your watch list. There is an editor who keeps deleting mention that Hussain ibn Ali's father was 4th Caliph. The editor gives different explanations for the deletion. You may wish to express an opinion on the subject on the talk page.--Toddy1 (talk) 20:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Assalamu Alaikum
Please help these articles Template talk:First Fitna and Talk:Riyadh As-Saaliheen. Thank you. Ibensis (talk) 01:45, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Or maybe this is a template but linked into wrong wikidata. It linked to non template page in other[REDACTED] language. secondly, Can you help me make an infobox template about arabic name that contain:
- <{infobox arabic name
- | Name = Muhammad
- | Nasab = bin Umar bin Utsman
- | Kunya = Abu Bakr
- | Nisbah = Ash-Shabuni (soapman), As-Saghir (litle)
or better if you may insert those (Name, Nasab, Kunya anda Nisbah) into infobox muslim scolar. Sorry for bad english.Ibensis (talk) 02:21, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Opinion
I was wondering whether you thought such removals were appropriate: , , , or how about hierarchichal orders such as this ? Pass a Method talk 20:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
- MezzoMezzo, hi, just FYI the above edit has been linked in a discussion at ANI. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- User:Pass a Method, I have only taken a cursory glance but my first reaction is that the removing editor's edit summary mentions something about talk page discussions. If there is a discussion going on about the issue, my advice is always that all parties involved should stop editing, even if they feel that the article is in a poor state, and finish the discussion first; if there is some policy violation in the article, leaving it up for a few days while the matter is sorted out won't kill anybody. This is just my first impression, so take this with a few grains of salt.
- User:In ictu oculi, I have not yet read the ANI discussion. I will take a look at it now.
- By the way guys, by writing your user names are you getting notifications that I mentioned you? Or do I need to type that weird symbol with colons and the Internet "at" symbol? MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:23, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes thanks it works, unless you've turned page notifications of on preferences, :) In ictu oculi (talk) 12:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- MezzoMezzo, hi, just FYI the above edit has been linked in a discussion at ANI. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Religion
Hi MezzoMezzo. As one of the main contributors to the Islam-related pages, I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at the Religion in Somalia article to confirm the Pew Research Forum's figures for the various religions practiced therein. According to it, the country is 99.8% Muslim, with the remaining 0.2% of the population adhering to other belief systems. Islam is also the state religion. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- And have a look at talk page, there's some issue with the Irreligion in Somalia, in my opinion a notable section, although Middayexpress did a good job. Bladesmulti (talk) 17:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- According to the Pew Research Forum, less than 0.1% of Somalia's population in 2010 were adherents of Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, or unaffiliated with any religion . Middayexpress (talk) 17:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- User:Middayexpress and User:Bladesmulti, I will take a look at it right now. MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:40, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sure, good luck. Bladesmulti (talk) 12:41, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 12:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- User:Middayexpress and User:Bladesmulti, I will take a look at it right now. MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:40, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppet
A month ago you expressed the view that a returning editor who was editing as an IP-editor was probably a sockpuppet of a blocked editor. You said that you had "notified the admin who blocked the first IP," and that you were "hoping they will agree to reblock as an executive decision but if not I am ready to put together a formall sockpuppet investigation." I have not heard anything since then. The IP editor got him/herself a new account and continues to edit the same page and its talk page.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:24, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- User:Toddy1, when I brought it up to the admin a few legitimate reasons were listed as to why nothing could be done, among them the fact that the IP address could not be punished retroactively for the socking as it would be punitive rather than to simply stop the socking (which had stopped on its own). I will take a look at the relevant articles now. MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, something literally just came up in real life. I have to log off now but could you link me to the problem areas? MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- In November, we both expressed concern that an IP editor who was editing the article on the Salafi movement was a sockpuppet of a blocked editor. You can see part of the discussion at User talk:Toddy1/Archive 2#Returning editor. I wondered whether it was User:Shabiha/User:Msoamu. You thought that he she might be User:Baboon43. The suspected editor has used the following:
- In November, we both expressed concern that an IP editor who was editing the article on the Salafi movement was a sockpuppet of a blocked editor. You can see part of the discussion at User talk:Toddy1/Archive 2#Returning editor. I wondered whether it was User:Shabiha/User:Msoamu. You thought that he she might be User:Baboon43. The suspected editor has used the following:
- Sorry, something literally just came up in real life. I have to log off now but could you link me to the problem areas? MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:52, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
16 November 2013
- 18:2518:25, 16 November 2013 diff hist −6 Muhammad Abduh Reverted movement back to Salafism and corrected spelling. Please see talk to discuss further.
- 18:1718:17, 16 November 2013 diff hist +1,851 Talk:Muhammad Abduh →Salafism and accusations: new section
- 15:4815:48, 16 November 2013 diff hist +2 2013–14 Football League One →Results
- 15:4515:45, 16 November 2013 diff hist +4 2013–14 Football League One →Results
- 15:1615:16, 16 November 2013 diff hist +2 2013–14 Football League One →Results: Added a missing result for Leyton Orient
- 15:0715:07, 16 November 2013 diff hist +248 Talk:2013–14 Football League One →Top Goal Scorers: new section
- 14:5114:51, 16 November 2013 diff hist +658 Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya Added Ibn al-Qayyims views on Ansari
- 14:4114:41, 16 November 2013 diff hist +639 Abdullah Ansari Added Ibn al-Qayyims views on Ansari
14 November 2013
- 22:0622:06, 14 November 2013 diff hist −4,466 Salafi movement Undid revision 581579354 by MezzoMezzo (talk) Please see talk
- 22:0322:03, 14 November 2013 diff hist +1,445 Talk:Salafi movement →Neutral Sources and Toddy1
- 00:4800:48, 14 November 2013 diff hist −42 Muhammad Abduh Undid revision 581449109 by Ashashyou (talk) This has been reverted as it would otherwise contradict the article "Salafism" on Misplaced Pages. Abduh has been listed as a salafi in that Article
- 00:4700:47, 14 November 2013 diff hist 0 Muhammad Abduh Undid revision 581449580 by Ashashyou (talk)
- 00:4400:44, 14 November 2013 diff hist +490 Talk:Salafi movement →Neutral Sources and Toddy1: new section
- 00:3800:38, 14 November 2013 diff hist −892 Salafi movement Undid revision 581557264 by Toddy1 (talk) As below
- 00:3700:37, 14 November 2013 diff hist −3,574 Salafi movement Undid revision 581557860 by Toddy1 (talk There is no reference to this in the talk section. Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources
- 00:2700:27, 14 November 2013 diff hist −892 Salafi movement Undid revision 581548008 by Toddy1 (talk) Sorry, but Salafi sites gushing about there sect aren't RS no matter how one tries to spin it. Misplaced Pages articles are required to present a neutral POV.
13 November 2013
- 21:4421:44, 13 November 2013 diff hist −2,442 Salafi movement Unfortunately this entire section has been copied blindly from the bigoted and unreliable website http://ahlusunnahwaljamaah.com/qa-on-salafiyyiah/. I have removed all these quotes for copyright and reliability reasons. Tag: section blanking
- 21:3721:37, 13 November 2013 diff hist +721 Salafi movement Added to extremism section
- 21:2921:29, 13 November 2013 diff hist +130 Salafi movement Added balance to the extremism section and removed honourific titles
- 21:1221:12, 13 November 2013 diff hist −222 Salafi movement Removed another reference from the partizan and unreliable website SalafiPublications.com
- 21:0921:09, 13 November 2013 diff hist +963 Salafi movement Added information on taqlid
- 20:5020:50, 13 November 2013 diff hist −42 Salafi movement Removed honorific titles
12 November 2013
- 22:4922:49, 12 November 2013 diff hist −1,272 Salafi movement Removed quotes from the biased site SalafiPublications.com. This site is unreliable and considers all those who disagree with there views as unbelievers. Please only reference reliable neutral sources.
- 22:4022:40, 12 November 2013 diff hist −2,302 Salafi movement Removed unreliable quotes from the biased and polemic sites SalafiPublications.com and http://theauthenticbase.wordpress.com/.
- 22:1922:19, 12 November 2013 diff hist −42 Muhammad Abduh Undid revision 581091193 by Ashashyou (talk) This has been reverted as it would otherwise contradict the article "Salafism" on Misplaced Pages. Abduh has been listed as a salafi in that Article
(talk)
24 November 2013
- 21:2921:29, 24 November 2013 diff hist +1,391 Talk:Salafi movement →New section on Taqlid (scholarly authority): Added references as they were not readable
- 02:4402:44, 24 November 2013 diff hist +4,063 Talk:Salafi movement Taqlid recommendations
- 01:1401:14, 24 November 2013 diff hist +1,004 Talk:Salafi movement →2 different things under one name
23 November 2013
- 16:5516:55, 23 November 2013 diff hist +2 2013–14 Football League One No edit summary
20 November 2013
- 19:3819:38, 20 November 2013 diff hist +254 Talk:Keith Vaz Female Genital Mutilation Section Added
- 19:2119:21, 20 November 2013 diff hist +245 Talk:Muhammad Abduh →Salafism and accusations
- 19:1919:19, 20 November 2013 diff hist −118 Keith Vaz →Probe into Female Genital Mutilation: Removed signature
- 19:1819:18, 20 November 2013 diff hist +551 Keith Vaz Added section - Probe into Female Genital Mutilation
- 08:4208:42, 20 November 2013 diff hist +290 Talk:Salafi movement →Extremism
19 November 2013
- 20:4820:48, 19 November 2013 diff hist 0 Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya →Spiritual Life: Fixed broken link
- 19:3019:30, 19 November 2013 diff hist +269 Carol Vorderman →Television career: Adding hosting of chess championship 1993
- 19:1619:16, 19 November 2013 diff hist +359 User talk:86.163.52.147 →Welcome!
- 18:2618:26, 19 November 2013 diff hist +780 Talk:Muhammad Abduh →Salafism and accusations
- 07:5507:55, 19 November 2013 diff hist +485 Talk:Salafi movement →Copyright violation?
- 07:5007:50, 19 November 2013 diff hist +3,156 Talk:Salafi movement →Extremism
18 November 2013
- 22:1322:13, 18 November 2013 diff hist +1 Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya Improved English
- 22:1222:12, 18 November 2013 diff hist +1 Abdullah Ansari Improved English
- 21:3521:35, 18 November 2013 diff hist +949 Talk:Abdullah Ansari No edit summary
- 21:3221:32, 18 November 2013 diff hist +1,582 Abdullah Ansari →Life
- 21:2721:27, 18 November 2013 diff hist +1,610 Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya →Spiritual Life
- 21:2121:21, 18 November 2013 diff hist +950 Talk:Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya →Ibn Qayyim and Ansari: new section
- 01:1801:18, 18 November 2013 diff hist +4,837 Talk:Salafi movement →Neutral Sources and Toddy1
- 00:5300:53, 18 November 2013 diff hist +740 Talk:Muhammad Abduh →Salafism and accusations
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29 January 2016
- 12:0012:00, 29 January 2016 diff hist +267 User talk:RookTaker →Fethullah Gülen
- 08:5408:54, 29 January 2016 diff hist −10 m Fethullah Gülen Grammar
- 08:4908:49, 29 January 2016 diff hist +355 Fethullah Gülen As per the source
- 08:4608:46, 29 January 2016 diff hist −1,262 Fethullah Gülen Sources do not support text. BLP issue
24 December 2015
- 04:2104:21, 24 December 2015 diff hist −63 Ibn Taymiyya Removed unreliable source and improved language
- 04:0804:08, 24 December 2015 diff hist +40 Yasir Qadhi restored sourced content
19 December 2015
- 17:3517:35, 19 December 2015 diff hist +19 User:RookTaker No edit summary current
4 November 2015
- 15:2115:21, 4 November 2015 diff hist +109 Talk:Ahmadiyya →Removal of sourced content: Added heading as it was becoming difficult to read through all the comments
- 14:1914:19, 4 November 2015 diff hist +3,331 Talk:Ahmadiyya →Removal of sourced content
3 November 2015
- 22:3822:38, 3 November 2015 diff hist +2,338 Talk:Ahmadiyya →Removal of sourced content
- 17:4417:44, 3 November 2015 diff hist +891 Template talk:Caliphate →RfC
- 17:1917:19, 3 November 2015 diff hist +220 Talk:Ahmadiyya →Removal of sourced content
- 16:0516:05, 3 November 2015 diff hist +1,227 Ahmadiyya Undid revision 688871733 by Peaceworld111 (talk) Re-added content sourced from the Encylopedia of Islam. Please only remove after answering my questions on the talk page.
- 16:0316:03, 3 November 2015 diff hist +1,961 Talk:Ahmadiyya →Removal of sourced content: new section
- 15:3415:34, 3 November 2015 diff hist +546 Ahmadiyya Added Ghulams claim to be Krishna and the buruz from the Encyclopedia of Islam
- 15:2415:24, 3 November 2015 diff hist +681 Ahmadiyya Added sourced info
2 November 2015
- 16:1816:18, 2 November 2015 diff hist +20 Mujaddid →Fifth Century (September 1, 1106): Added reliable source
- 16:1716:17, 2 November 2015 diff hist +20 Mujaddid →Third Century (August 17, 912): Added reference
- 16:1716:17, 2 November 2015 diff hist +167 Mujaddid →Second Century (August 10, 815): Added reliable reference
- 15:4715:47, 2 November 2015 diff hist −5 Deobandi movement →In the United Kingdom: The Deobandi school is not a sect but a movement
- 15:4615:46, 2 November 2015 diff hist +4 Deobandi movement →In India: The Deobandi school is not a sect but a movement
- 15:4015:40, 2 November 2015 diff hist +493 Ibn Qudamah →Views: Added sourced info
- 13:3413:34, 2 November 2015 diff hist −10 Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya Undid revision 688681897 by 2A02:A03F:2C80:F400:7085:7A66:CCFC:603A (talk) Ibn Rajab was Ibn Qayyim's student
- 10:2110:21, 2 November 2015 diff hist +1,354 Template talk:Caliphate →RfC
1 November 2015
- 16:2116:21, 1 November 2015 diff hist +1,044 Template talk:Caliphate →RfC
- 12:3012:30, 1 November 2015 diff hist +37 m Template talk:Caliphate →RfC: Added wikilink
- 11:5111:51, 1 November 2015 diff hist +735 Template talk:Caliphate →RfC
- 10:1210:12, 1 November 2015 diff hist −169 Template:Caliphate Undid revision 688385727 by FreeatlastChitchat (talk) revert back to agreed upon version
31 October 2015
- 20:3620:36, 31 October 2015 diff hist +22 Al-Raghib al-Isfahani added Category:Ash'aris using HotCat
- 20:3620:36, 31 October 2015 diff hist +74 Al-Raghib al-Isfahani Changed infobox and added reference
- 20:2420:24, 31 October 2015 diff hist +588 Al-Ghazali Reverted back to Sunni and added sources
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- 11:4411:44, 31 October 2015 diff hist −1 Template:Maliki scholars Transliterated as Laqani according to most academic sources
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- 16:0716:07, 30 October 2015 diff hist +448 Husayn ibn Ali →Early life: Added sourced info
- 15:3015:30, 30 October 2015 diff hist −15 Al-Ghazali As per other wiki entries
- 15:2615:26, 30 October 2015 diff hist +4 Ibn al-Jawzi Better source
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User:RookTaker (talk)
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- 22:3722:37, 24 November 2013 diff hist +4 N User:BobbyDavro1 ←Created page with 'Test'
- 22:3622:36, 24 November 2013 diff hist +160 User talk:86.163.52.147 →Welcome!: Created Account
User:BobbyDavro1 (account creation and self-identification only)
- Do you still believe that this editor is a sockpuppet of a blocked editor?
- In any case, please can you review his/her proposals on Talk:Salafi movement.--Toddy1 (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
- You might also suspect
- In any case, please can you review his/her proposals on Talk:Salafi movement.--Toddy1 (talk) 22:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
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- 08:4608:46, 3 January 2014 diff hist +213 User talk:Malik Shabazz →its an honor sir: new section
29 December 2013
- 23:1823:18, 29 December 2013 diff hist +199 Talk:Salafi movement →Changes to the section on Extremism
to be a sock. Vizier loki in his/her one and only edit to Misplaced Pages cites a[REDACTED] policy complete with wikilink.--Toddy1 (talk) 00:16, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- I just logged on, let me see if I can take a detailed look now. MezzoMezzo (talk) 16:52, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- User:Toddy1, I reviewed the discussion and RookTaker is the same as the previously blocked IP address (block log here). However, I don't think it's an issue because that block was only a temporary one for a minor infraction. As far as I can tell, RookTaker has been abiding by site policies and guidelines as well as any other new editor still learning the ropes. Now, because the user once edited anonymously and was blocked, does that need to be noted on their page by some admin? I'm not sure but I doubt it. The best thing to do is to remember all this info you have here on my talk page - it will be archived but never deleted - and simply hope that RookTaker has seen the light and it never needs to be brought up again.
- Now regarding my comments on specific proposals mentioned on that talk page, then it will take some more time as you both have a detailed discussion going on. I need to look at it more before providing some feedback on where the article should be headed. MezzoMezzo (talk) 17:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Toddy1 (talk) 21:50, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- I just logged on, let me see if I can take a detailed look now. MezzoMezzo (talk) 16:52, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Muslim Students Organization of India MSO
Hello MezzoMezzo. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Muslim Students Organization of India MSO, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article is not substantially the same as the deleted version. A new deletion discussion is required. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 22:20, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I will take a closer look when considering speedy next time. MezzoMezzo (talk) 16:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Nomination of Muslim Students Organization of India MSO for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Muslim Students Organization of India MSO is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Muslim Students Organization of India MSO until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 23:44, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- You might want to keep an eye on
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, who made this edit putting the obscure student organisation top of the list on MSO. It has since been deleted as non-notable.--Toddy1 (talk) 00:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- By the way, the IP is a proxy-server.--Toddy1 (talk) 00:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Fyi
Hi MezzoMezzo. There's a user on the Somali people page who has claimed that Somalis are "predominantly Sunni Muslim, with a christian minority and an unknown number of agnostics and atheists", and added these other religions to the infobox alongside Islam. He has attributed this statement to Mohamed Diriye Abdullahi, who actually indicates that ethnic Somalis are pretty much all Muslim, and that "Somali identity is intertwined with Islam" . The user has also tried to add an image of Hirsi Ali to a section of the page reserved for everyday Somalis. I've explained to him that she is a controversial, disliked figure, and that other controversial figures were omitted as well, as per convention on other pages (e.g. at Syrian people). As a knowledgeable contributor to the religion topics, would you mind taking a look? Best, Middayexpress (talk) 21:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- User:Middayexpress, that's a classic case of edit warring but the guy might not be aware of it. I will mention it at the noticeboard either way. MezzoMezzo (talk) 15:14, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 15:28, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Thx for Sunni Students'
Thanks for fixing it up. I've been really busy as of late. I didn't realize the user involved was being problematic. The article should stand as a stub, notable subject, just bad execution at the moment. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:21, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Content on Shafi'i's al-Risala
Since you are officially the only person I have ever had contact with on Misplaced Pages (you thanked me for some tweaks I made to the Shafi'i article), I figured I'd start here and see where I land. On the talk page of Al-Risala (book) I indicated I was beginning to write up some notes on my reading of Shafi'i's Risala (in the Khadduri translation). I've been adding them to my sandbox in the meantime. Would you mind either: (1) glancing at them yourself or (2) directing me to someone else I should be talking to about it? I'm wondering if I should continue doing this at all, if this kind of note-taking and/or level of detail is appropriate for Misplaced Pages or what. I'm making the notes for myself, of course, but figured I'd share. Why not? Dmvjjvmd (talk) 12:48, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- User:Dmvjjvmd, I just took a look and while it is written quite thoroughly, it will eventually need input from more reviewers than just one. What you're doing now is similar to what has already been written about other classical religious/philosophical works here on Misplaced Pages, I'm struggling to remember other detailed articles like that off the top of my head but The Republic (Plato) comes to mind. I also created an article about the first dictionary of the Arabic language, Kitab al-'Ayn, which isn't as detailed as what you're doing but it's another example.
- Overall I think you're going in the right direction currently, any trimming of the edges and cleaning up can be handled once it's ready to be published in main article space. Though if you don't mind other people editing your sandbox, you could extend the invitation on the relevant Wiki projects and see how others feel about that. MezzoMezzo (talk) 15:33, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- User:MezzoMezzo, thanks so much for taking a look! I just wasn't sure if what I was doing was even appropriate for Misplaced Pages, which is why I asked. But Shafi'i's Risala is such an important work in the history of fiqh, it seemed possible. For now, I was just trying to gauge if it was something I should continue to put up here, as opposed to leaving in my own personal notes in a word proc. doc. I completely agree, it'll need editing and further review later on, especially as I haven't edited any of it, just drafted. I was just switching the Qur'an citations to the Cite quran template and noticed a couple of sentences that struck me as coming off entirely the wrong way from what I meant to convey. Yikes! But in general, as the first go-round, I'm just trying to note down the main lines of Shafi'i's argument(s), his scriptural evidentiary support, and anything particularly noteworthy or interesting (like that quote at the end of the introduction about patience in learning). Anyway, again, I really appreciate your responsiveness! And happy new year! Dmvjjvmd (talk) 15:51, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Bot question
Do you have any idea why the Wiki v. 1.0 assessment bot is basically reassessing the same three or four articles every day, and nothing else? See here to see what I mean. Technology: confusing to a humanities nerd like me. :P Dmvjjvmd (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
- User:Dmvjjvmd, I'm the last guy to ask about technical stuff. There are common areas for questions, though. Misplaced Pages:Help desk is often the best place to start, I use it myself sometimes. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
- MezzoMezzo, thanks, that should help me to stop nagging you about, well, everything. ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmvjjvmd (talk • contribs) 20:37, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
Sunni Islam question
Hello MezzMezzo I removed it because I thought the sources were rather unreliable: a children's book and a murder mystery. Perhaps you could quote some more reliable academic or statistical sources. Thanks. Erasmus1536
January 2014
Information icon Hello, I'm MezzoMezzo. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Sunni Islam without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:53, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi MezzMezzo- Sorry for not adding a note that was a mistake I had forgot to add something. Reason for the change is that it is an un-substantiated comment without any specific estimates. Currently there are no reliable estimates for the current Sunni population therefore it cannot accurately be described as being the largest single religious denomination. For example estimates range from between 70%-90% of world Islam adherents which again depending on estimate's of population it can range from 1.12 billion to 1.4 billion. At 1.12 it would not be the largest denomination as that would be Roman Catholic at roughly 1.22 billion. At 1.4 billion it definitely would be however I believe that unless there is a qualified number this claim should not and cannot be accurately made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.152.85.45 (talk) 15:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Hello
Hello. :) I saw on AN/I that you considered the F.Tromble issue solved with my outside mediation and explanation. I'm glad to hear so, as I believe that although some of his behaviour was problematic, he did and does intend to be a constructive contributor.
I sincerely hope that next time he needs some advice or help, he'll ask me, but should you notice that he's getting into trouble again, please let me know and I'll see if I can't explain to him how to handle things.
AddWittyNameHere (talk) 10:30, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- User:AddWittyNameHere you're right, I think it was a combination of paranoia on my part and (as you pointed out) attempts at lightening up the situation being unclear on the Internet vs. face-to-face. I had a rought start at the beginning, too. I don't expect him to get into trouble after the experience, but we can view this as both of us (as well as others) ready to help him out if he asks. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:01, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Article Titles
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته Please tell me how i could get a discussion about the titles of some articles more open because if I only do it on the article talk page, maybe not as many people would view it. عمر چودھری 08:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omar Choudhry (talk • contribs)
- (talk page stalker) @Omar Choudhry: wa alaikum al salam First, most of our articles (like Fatima) are already at the right title, so there's no need to move them (to Faatwimah, for example). If there's not enough of an audience at the talk page, you could post a Request for Comment. Other editors would get the notice and respond. You could also raise these issues at the applicable WikiProjects (like WikiProject Islam). Chris Troutman (talk) 17:26, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback
on the Oman articles. I found them interesting to research. I hope I did not make too many errors in the names, which I find quite confusing. Thanks again, Aymatth2 (talk) 14:51, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Talkback
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Succession to Muhammad Page
Hi MezzoMezzo I added some content into the Succession to Muhammad page but Kazemita1 keeps on removing it citing copy right violation even though I gave the references and the whole page is already full of quotes from various books. I want to avoid an edit war. I want to improve Misplaced Pages so that it contains researched scholarly content, that is useful to the readers. This whole article is full of people pushing their opinions. There needs to be a critical analysis of the content on this page. Various books have been written on this issues through out the ages and this content needs to be put into a table so that people could compare what was said when and by whom and why. Thanks --Johnleeds1 (talk) 21:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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assalamualykum
assalamualykum, https://en.wikipedia.org/Sheik_Abdur_Rahman_Madani, i discovered that you voted for delete this article. Could you do anything? I have created it with too much effort. He is a sheik of london. Thanks. Jazakallaahu Khair Highermafs (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
A Dobos torte for you!
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Just a suggestion . . .
Since the article Names of God in Islam already notes that the names are not all found in the Qur'an and that the sources include both Qur'an and hadith, would you consider re-entering the names you've deleted, including a note in the "Qur'anic Usage" column like "not found in Qur'an" or "Hadith only"? If you're interested in doing so, I would be more than happy to help by tracking down the hadith sources for the names not found in the Qur'an. مع خالص الشكر والتقدير.
--أخوها (talk) 21:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- User:أخوها: while compromise isn't my middle name, it's still a Wiki virtue to be desired. I am totally down with such a self revert and change and will do my best to help with finding names in hadith only as well. MezzoMezzo (talk) 02:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)