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Unjustified Deletion of aReputation Article

The[REDACTED] article on areputation was created adhering to the[REDACTED] policies, citing all the related media references. Hence deleting the article merely for the reason that it had been deleted earlier too is not justified. The content of the article created by me couldn't be similar to the earlier one as i have no idea of that content. We can take up a discussion for restoring the deleted latest areputationarticle.

Art2edit (talk) 10:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

aReputation was deleted as a result of this deletion discussion. If you think "significant new information has come to light" since September, and aReputation is now notable, please read WP:CORP (the relevant notability guideline) and file a request at WP:Deletion review. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletion review for AReputation

An editor has asked for a deletion review of AReputation. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Art2edit (talk) 11:46, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Response Awaited

I have filed the request for the undeletion of theaReputation[REDACTED] article. Response is awaited for the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Art2edit (talk • contribs) 12:55, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't have anything to contribute to the discussion at this time. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 16:25, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Expected Time Duration for Undeletion

Can you please suggest how much time will the undeletion process of aReputation[REDACTED] article take. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Art2edit (talk • contribs) 07:27, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

The deletion review process takes seven days. You might want to check in at WP:Deletion review#aReputation, because somebody asked you a question there. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 16:42, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
I checked the talk page and also replied to the question asked but there is no response yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Art2edit (talk • contribs) 11:44, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The Deletion review discussion was closed today, making the point moot. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 16:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

question

Hi Malik, would it be possible to give this IP a wikibreak? He's been regularly vandalizing articles and deleting his talk page warnings for about two weeks now. I welcomed him with a carrot instead of a stick around June 9. Looks like it's time for the stick. SW3 5DL (talk) 02:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi SW3 5DL. I left the IP a final warning, and I'll try to keep an eye on their contributions. If they act up, please let me know. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
That will be great. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 02:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Your revert of my re-instatement at Internet pornography

Hi. Thanks for your correction on that article. I hadn't noticed the redirect, and the previous editor left no comment. peterl (talk) 02:36, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Earlier in the day, I was ready to revert the prior editor when I clicked on the link and saw it redirected to Internet pornography. An edit summary from him would have been nice. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:55, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey!

It seems you deleted my page. called Na Fail. I had just opened it it would be really good if u would keep it on for two more days. its a major event in India where i live. so i would like to kindly request you to put the article back as it is of major importance. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.199.213.82 (talk) 17:07, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

The page was promotional in tone (see WP:G11) and it failed to explain what makes Na Fail important or significant (see WP:A7). Also, it wasn't about an event, but an institute. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:13, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

it was not for promoting we don't want to promote anything.

if i had to promote then would'nt i promote on google adds or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.199.213.82 (talk) 17:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Using language such as "the top institute" and "geniuses of their time" is promotional. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:19, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

u can remove that if you want. but removing the whole page is quite rude i would say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.199.213.82 (talk) 17:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to restore the page. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Robert Vano (Musicproducer Triphop, Lounge, ElectroDub)

Hy. Just created today first time the (my) first article on[REDACTED] and it could be that there are some issues not to do. You delited the site. What do I have to do in order to have it online again. The site is not mentionned as a promotion tool (its on many platforms already, dont need it for this) but it should show the history of the Artist, not more. Can you let me know. Thank you.

Just sended you a message. This is the Site name: Robert Vano (Musicproducer Triphop, Lounge, ElectroDub) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.162.250.39 (talk) 20:54, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

The page was deleted because it was promotional in nature. See WP:G11.
In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a person must be "notable". Please see WP:MUSICBIO, the relevant notability guideline. If Robert Vano satisfies the notability criteria, please write a new article about him by summarizing in your own words what reliable sources have written about him. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 01:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

You deleted the page Jorge Elorza after it was cleaned up

I remedied the copyright problem from using bio information from the person's website and added sections to divide biographical information from the more important information that warranted the writing of the article in the first place (a candidate running for mayor of the 2nd largest city in New England and the 38th largest metropolitan area in America). If this one doesn't work out then I won't be able to make pages for other people as well. Related to this article, other notable Rhode Islanders have their own[REDACTED] pages such as Clay Pell (candidate for Rhode Island governor and Buddy Cianci candidate for Mayor of Providence. There is however, no page for Jorge Elorza Providence city judge and Mayoral frontrunner and Michael Solomon Providence city councilman. Jorge Elorza is endorsed by the current mayor of Providence Angel Taveras and Michael Soloman is within the margin of era in recent polls to win in the democratic primary.

Why was it still deleted after the appeal and reconfiguration as if the earlier problems were not addressed? Prominent figures running for offices like this in large cities almost always have[REDACTED] pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncataldo (talk • contribs) 03:16, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

The page was deleted because it was promotional in nature. See WP:G11.
In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a person must be "notable". Please see WP:BIO, the relevant notability guideline. If Jorge Elorza satisfies the notability criteria, please write a new article about him by summarizing in your own words what reliable sources have written about him. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:17, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

I really don't have a vested interest in promoting someone I don't know and cannot vote for. Is it possible to have the original article available for me to paste into a word file so I don't have to rewrite most of it. It's my first article and though that doesn't play into a mod's decision to delete it, I feel like this article should be able to exist (albeit in an even more cleaned up form with your help).

How much more notable does someone need to be? I've spent a while adding Rhode Islanders to places that meet their criteria like notable Italian American politicians and RI/native american history but this seems to be the only thing I'm not allowed to write. This person is running for Mayor in a large city and is well known here in Rhode Island. There's thousands of articles of people on here that have far less notoriety. The final edition of the page I made before deletion seemed to me to be neutral after I eliminated the information gleened from his own website. The last edit I made had some biographical information and then the reason for his notoriety which is the campaign he's running for mayor. If I can have the original text back I can rework the article again but more meticulously and with many more sources (dozens). I don't want to just throw another article out there and make it look like I'm spamming it so I'm letting you know I intend to rework it. While I'm waiting for a response I'm going to work on a practice article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncataldo (talk • contribs) 03:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

It appears you inadvertently requested speedy deletion when you created the article, so I restored it for you. Please improve it by adding material from reliable sources such as newspaper and magazine articles. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 18:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

HurricaneTracker2003

Hello, I am HurricaneTracker2003. I was wondering why you deleted my page. All I had were to pics, one of me and my friend (I am the one on the right) from a video, and one of a bridge I made on Minecraft. Please comment back.

Thanks, HurricaneTracker2003 — Preceding unsigned comment added by HurricaneTracker2003 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a person must be "notable". Please see WP:BIO, the relevant notability guideline. You do not appear to be notable. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 18:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

IP

Hi Malik, the IP is back, not yet vandalizing, but he's reverted the final warning on his TP. I'll keep a watch to see what he does next and let you know. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 21:31, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, SW3 5DL. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:36, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 June 2014

question

I was just wondering, should this be a delete and then redirect? I've seen that done before at AfD, I've never seen just a redirect. It was a non-admin closure. SW3 5DL (talk) 17:36, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure. WP:Articles for deletion/Administrator instructions#Carrying out the AfD close doesn't say that. Is there anything in the article history that concerns you (BLP violations, for example)? — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 18:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Only that it was totally without RS. Even the blog source that is used doesn't cover all the info the BLP had. I tried finding RS but it's just not out there. Since it's not properly sourced, and it is a BLP, I guess one could say that's a violation in itself. Would it be better to delete on that account and just redirect his name to the book article? SW3 5DL (talk) 19:50, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
As far as I can see, the article has been sourced, if poorly, during its history and there are no significant BLP problems that might require deletion of its history. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:05, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for checking. SW3 5DL (talk) 03:10, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Columbians Drum and Bugle Corps

The page was started by a novice & tagged for speedy deletion... I stated that I would add content ASAP, and as soon as I started, you deleted the page right out from under me... Come on, please let me correct this kid's error without having to go through a bunch of rigamarole... GWFrog (talk) 19:43, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Apologies. I've restored the article. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanx muchly... I'm already adding content to the article... GWFrog (talk) 19:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Matt Drudge: Habonim

Malik: I understand that Facebook is a tricky source to rely on. In this case I am pointing to a discussion group for Habonim-Dror Camp Moshava alumni with first-hand, primary-source knowledge of Matt Drudge's attendance at the summer camp. The discussion thread underway in Facebook includes numerous anecdotes and photographs of young Matt at Habonim-Dror Camp Moshava. This is primary material from numerous sources. What more could you ask for? I can assure you that this would be good enough factual back-up for the New York Times to run with it. Yes, it's true that there seems not to be any reference on the web currently to Drudge's summer camp attendance. But why in the world would this be considered better sourcing than a half dozen people who actually went to camp with the guy? I can't figure out how to upload an image otherwise I'd show you a screenshot of the discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naparstek (talk • contribs) 01:59, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you're not familiar with Misplaced Pages's core policies, WP:V and WP:BLP. Facebook is never a reliable source, even if a person named Matt Drudge posted on the Habonim Dror alumni page saying that he was a member. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:04, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Malik: I get that Facebook would be a bad source. But Facebook is not the source here. The sources are multiple individual alumni of Habonim-Dror Camp Moshava who are confirming that Matt Drudge was, in fact, a camper at Mosh. They are backing up their claims with photographs of Matt Drudge as a young camper and numerous anecdotes. Unlike you, these sources are using their actual names and identities and can easily be contacted to verify. What is the problem here? Has Drudge complained or asked for his name to be removed from Misplaced Pages? I do not understand why you would make an issue of this when there are a number of other un-sourced names on that list. Unless Drudge is personally objecting, this seems like a very strange fight to pick. Were you a member of Habonim-Dror or are you knowledgeable about the youth movement's history? What is your particular source of authority to edit the page? BTW... I will just add that the bullet-pointed list was a very nice touch! That's way better. So, thanks for doing that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naparstek (talk • contribs) 02:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:Verifiability:
In Misplaced Pages, verifiability means that people reading and editing the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Misplaced Pages does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. (Footnote omitted.)
Where is the previously published information concerning Matt Drudge and Habonim? The experiences of his fellow campers just don't count as reliable sources in the Misplaced Pages world. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
And my "authority" to edit the page comes from my ability to research and read sources. My interest in the subject, which is a separate matter, comes from my having been a member of Habonim (before the merger). — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 02:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

ok

Its ok to delete my account because it seems like it doesn't matter what I put down as what I think is the correct statement I don't use Misplaced Pages much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrin8 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Malcolm X=

Hey, I noticed that you reverted the last edits I made on the Malcolm X page. I want to thank you once again for your help on the Martin Luther King Jr. page. I wanted to talk about the Malcolm X page to see if we could come to some sort of compromise. I don't want to edit the page and mess it up, but the Youtube interviews are indisputable proof as you hear what the person says straight from the person's mouth. The James Baldwin reaction, I feel, could help strengthen the page. I will try to find another source with Baldwin's reaction if you still feel that Youtube is a bad source (I do understand why you say so), but since it is a legitimate interview from Baldwin there is no dispute that he said it, and it is a reliable citation nonetheless. Also, what Malcolm said about King, and his views after the Nation, those all show how substantially he had evolved from his time in the Nation. I also thought the Paradise Lost quotes fully explained Malcolm's views of white America (also, this was not a Youtube source, it was straight from the autobiography). If you really don't want Youtube sources, I will try to find the sources that have the same information as the youtube interviews. So, would you please revert them back? Some of the information I added is new, and I feel that it would help the article greatly. I greatly admire Malcolm X and I noticed that you did too; I am glad to be working on the page with someone who appreciates the man. Thanks,Kinfoll77 (talk) 20:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

PS, I just found another source (a better one) from a book that speaks about Baldwin's reaction to the assassination. This is after Baldwin learns the full circumstances of Malcolm's assassination (in the youtube interview, he only knew that he died, but not how). This book could be used as a good citation.Kinfoll77 (talk) 21:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Malcolm X

Hey, I noticed that you reverted the last edits I made on the Malcolm X page. I want to thank you once again for your help on the Martin Luther King Jr. page. I wanted to talk about the Malcolm X page to see if we could come to some sort of compromise. I don't want to edit the page and mess it up, but the Youtube interviews are indisputable proof as you hear what the person says straight from the person's mouth. The James Baldwin reaction, I feel, could help strengthen the page. I will try to find another source with Baldwin's reaction if you still feel that Youtube is a bad source (I do understand why you say so), but since it is a legitimate interview from Baldwin there is no dispute that he said it, and it is a reliable citation nonetheless. Also, what Malcolm said about King, and his views after the Nation, those all show how substantially he had evolved from his time in the Nation. I also thought the Paradise Lost quotes fully explained Malcolm's views of white America (also, this was not a Youtube source, it was straight from the autobiography), and there was another source from an online article which mentioned Malcolm's disdain for the Civil Rights bill (some of the sources are not from Youtube). All of this is new info, not mentioned beforehand in the page. If you really don't want Youtube sources, I will try to find the sources that have the same information as the Youtube interviews. So, would you please revert them back? Some of the information I added is new, and I feel that it would help the article greatly. I greatly admire Malcolm X and I noticed that you did too; I am glad to be working on the page with someone who appreciates the man. Thanks,Kinfoll77 (talk) 20:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

PS, I just found another source (a better one) from a book that speaks about Baldwin's reaction to the assassination. This is after Baldwin learns the full circumstances of Malcolm's assassination (in the Youtube interview, he only knew that he died, but not how). This book could be used as a good citation in place of the Youtube citation. Kinfoll77 (talk) 21:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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