Misplaced Pages

Talk:Canton 10

Article snapshot taken from[REDACTED] with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Maple leaf eh (talk | contribs) at 03:16, 8 November 2014 (Coordinate error: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 03:16, 8 November 2014 by Maple leaf eh (talk | contribs) (Coordinate error: new section)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Canton 10 article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Article policies
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Archives: 1
The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.
WikiProject iconBosnia and Herzegovina C‑class Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconCanton 10 is part of the WikiProject Bosnia and Herzegovina, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Bosnia and Herzegovina on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.Bosnia and HerzegovinaWikipedia:WikiProject Bosnia and HerzegovinaTemplate:WikiProject Bosnia and HerzegovinaBosnia and Herzegovina
CThis article has been rated as C-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.


Name Change

I originally posted most of this at User talk:193.188.105.17:

If someone wishes for us to change the name by which the canton is referenced, an explanation less silly than "Some bosnian islamic nationalists call this canton "West Bosnia Canton" to make a reference to Greater Bosnia" will have to be provided. The term "Zapadnobosanski Kanton" is widely used, in official institutions too, and in a non-derogatory manner, a simple Google search shows this, so there's little or no point in trying to claim that it's some evil Bosniak conspiracy. Please be rational. --Joy 12:30, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Herzeg Bosnia.gif

Image:Herzeg Bosnia.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Misplaced Pages article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Misplaced Pages:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Misplaced Pages policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 22:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits

The symbols and name were found unconstitutional stop pushing your pov. PRODUCER (talk) 19:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


Until there appear to be symbols accepted on both sides. .. these ones will stay. Misplaced Pages does not obey not any constituition!! YOU should stop pushing your POV!! here you can not outvote somebody! --Añtó| Àntó (talk) 09:39, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Page protected

I've protected this article for two weeks and hopefully a solution can be found. I see the dispute is whether File:Flag of Herzeg-Bosnia.svg and File:Coat of arms of Herzeg-Bosnia.svg should be added to the infobox. I haven't examined this issue in detail, but this seems to be a case of de jure vs. de facto status.

Infoboxes generally only include official symbols. Since the flag and coat of arms seem to be used as de facto symbols despite being ruled unconstitutional, perhaps they can be taken out of the infobox and put under a section explaining their status. Would this be an acceptable solution for both sides?

Spellcast (talk) 01:57, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


Hi Spellcast!

As I have already explained at Talk:West Herzegovina Canton...

these symbols are:

  • de jure:partially accepted-used by the local governement but not accepted at the federal level
  • de facto: absolutely accepted

--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 06:29, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

To avoid duplicate conversations, we'll continue the discussion there. Spellcast (talk) 10:00, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


names

the local government referrs the Canton 10 as "hercegbosanska zupanija" that counts as "native name" even if it is not official.--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 15:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Same situation with the symbols, the name was found unconstitutional, this is already explained on the page as per the consensus. 15:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

There is not any court that has jurisdiction over this. Therefore it is meaningless.--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 14:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

HERZEGOVINA

OK, efendija PRODUCER


Could you explain me what is the problem with this sentence:

That geography proof is however disputed since the boarders of Herzegovina are not strictly geographically and especially not legally determined.

  • Are claiming that Herzegovina borders are determined? And you know them?
  • if they are , give us some sources for that!

--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 14:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for the compliment. I'm not the one adding new information it's up to you to provide sources. Stop returning the name we've gone over this nonsense, for the last time do not return it, it has been declared unconstitutional. PRODUCER (talk) 14:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
You have not answered my question!--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 06:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I am still waiting. And as it seems to me I will be waitign till eternity.--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Name

The official website of the Canton uses the name "Herzegbosanska županija", which is obviously the Croatian native name for the Canton. The Bosniak name is "Kanton br. 10", whil the Serbian name is "Zapadnobosanski kanton" ("Западнобосански кантон"). --DIREKTOR 15:57, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


precisely!That is my point ,too!Añtó| Àntó (talk) 06:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Coat of Arms

Is there any Coat of Arms of Canton 10? All other cantons have their own heraldic symbols... --WhiteWriter 17:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Canton 10

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Canton 10's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Data":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 08:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Part of Hercegovina? / Constitutional Court Article

"This name has been deemed unconstitutional by the Federation's Constitutional Court partly because it "does not cover any part of the traditional region of Herzegovina""

I do not believe that is what the accompanying article claims. The article states that the petition submitted to the Constitutional Court claims this, but not that the court ruled this to be true. From my understanding, Tomislavgrad is usually considered to be a part of Hercegovina. Ezc 195 (talk) 09:10, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Coordinate error

Coordinates in this article may need fixing. WikiProject Geographical coordinates and tools on Obtaining geographic coordinates may help. See Manual of Style on how to format coordinates.

Replace the {{geodata-check}} template with {{tlc|geodata-check}} when the request has been accepted or rejected.

The following coordinate fixes are needed for CANTON 10 is an administrative region in Bosnia Herzegovina. The coords fall in the middle of the Adriatic Sea. The fol coords are closer to the correct location, although a little too far north of the centre point. 44°22′N 16°23′E

Terry in Ottawa


Maple leaf eh (talk) 03:16, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Categories:
Talk:Canton 10 Add topic