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help me in using my talk page

--nids 23:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC) nidhish

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easy

many people of the not too intelligent variety tried to downplay the affair by arguing totally beside the point that the ban didn't matter much, since hardly any Indian can read Rushdie's English.


removing passages like this does not qualify as vandalism, not in my book. you did not give any reasons for your changes. maybe you can explain a little what you want to say on the article's talk page... please don't threaten so quickly and sign your comments--trueblood 18:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

your style was hardly neutral, Nidhishsinghal. If you are quoting someone, provide your source before complaining that you are reverted. Please see WP:NPOV. dab (ᛏ) 18:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

yep, gimme the link, the quote would be interesting, i think the article already said, that rushdie apologized at some point. maybe somebody took that off. i have a look.--trueblood 18:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

After the death of Khomeini in 1989, Rushdie published an essay in 1990, In Good Faith, to appease his critics and issued an apology in which he seems to have reaffirmed his respect for Islam. However, Iranian clerics did not retract the fatwa..

this passage is in the satanic verses article, which has a more extensive timeline of the controversy. check out the article, is that enough?--trueblood 18:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

the opening statement of this section is just the mere fact and i just intended to bring in light the narrowmindedness of many of my fellow indians, who just argued beyond the point to support the ban on rushies books. in my view this was similar to shah bano case. no wise indian would have been offended by renouncing this statement. nids 17:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

please help if you can

i read ,amazingly if true, that sunderbans are not natural forestlands, but manmade ones. and most likely to be implanted by britishers during their colonial rule. as a proof of it, it is known that the trees in sunderbans are in a straight line contrary to the principles of nature where they should have been in random order as seen on all the natural jungles. if anyone can vindicate or reprove it by via authetic source i shall be grateful to him email: nidhishsinghal123@yahoo.com --nidhishsinghal

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Hi - first off, I have no profound knowledge. I'll be only to happy to offer my opinions on any question you have, but this usually degenerates into a sermon, so ask only if you want to read everything I end up writing. Don't accept my POV without cross-examination. If you want to ask more questions, go to "My Preferences," enable your e-mail and then e-mail me through the toolbox below the search bar. I'll answer your question now but WP is not the place for private discussions.

The short answer is - IMO, there is no identity in religion, because it is a quest for God and not about the issues of people. And now the long version, if you prefer to read it:

Buddhism is technically not a religion, because it doesn't have any philosophy of God. All Buddha was talking about was for individuals to attain moksha, liberation from karma. He did not try to explain life and the universe. Buddha rejected most Vedic teachings and ceremonies, so you can't really link Buddhism with the Vedas.

Both Mahavira and Buddha took a lot of crap from Brahmins because of their rejection of most Vedic teachings, which in turn caused the separation of Mahavira, Buddha and his followers from Vedic Hindus. Nevertheless, both Buddha and Mahavira firmly and clearly emphasized that they were not founding a new religion, as did Nanak subsequently.

Indian Buddhism behaved more like a reform of Hinduism, as ultimately it was re-absorbed into Hinduism, which imbibed Buddhist emphasis and practice seeking of moksha, ahimsa etc. Although the Jain leadership remained alienated from Brahmins, it is next to impossible to set a Hindu and Jain apart anywhere in the world. While the Buddhists and Jains may reject the Vedas, they have no canons of their own.

The view held by the British government and later pronounced by a Supreme Court decision in 1960s defines Hindus as adherents of the Vedas, and thus Jainism is mostly described as a different religion. Buddhism is defined by its spread across South and East Asia, and its recent practice in India is mainly by people of Indo-Tibetan lineage and the neo-Buddhism of Dr. Ambedkar's followers. This is the legal answer to your question.

I believe the real spirit of religion, explicitly those practised in India inherently emphasizes the equal importance of all endeavours to discover God. Consider the many different schools of Hinduism - Advaita, Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism, Swaminarayan, Smarta, etc., etc., etc. Consider the Sant Mat and Shamana traditions, and the teachings of Kabir and Sai Baba. Consider that 99% of Hindus have never read the Vedas, and that perhaps the most important text in Hinduism is the Bhagavad Gita, with considerable importance to the Upanishads and Puranas. And consider that the ancient Vedic religion is so different from Hinduism.

All of this is in the shade of grey, not black or white. Unlike in Christianity or Islam, there are no hard and fast rules. And these issues of identity and "separate religions" began with the British census in the 19th century, which caused most ethnic and religious communities in India to seek a separate status for themselves, so they would not be dominated by larger communities. Although there was a considerable gulf between Hindus and Muslims during Muslim rule, most Indians did not behave in the manner they do today. This identity issue is politics, not religion.

I was recently stunned to discover how much Nanak's teachings are akin to the Gita. Yet most Sikhs consider Sikhism a different religion. I don't disagree with them, nor do I feel any need to emphasize a separate identity. To me, the important element is the path one takes to God.

I honestly believe that Hinduism is about God, not people, which is why nobody has thought twice about creating different schools and philosophy. This openness encouraged people like Mahavira, Buddha, Kabir, Nanak, Sai Baba. The Vedas are just a collection of knowledge and not rules - one is supposed to find his/her own way to God. Compare this to Judaism, which declined to consider Christ or Muhammad as a prophet. Compare this to Christianity, which elevates Christ as Son of God and refused to accept Muhammad. To Islam, which criticizes Judaism and Christianity, the old and new Bible testaments, and rejects succeeding teachers like Baha'iullah and Ghulam Mirza Ahmad. Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists had no hesitation in listening to Kabir or Sai Baba, nor paying respects to Haji Ali and other Sufi saints. Many Indians who became Muslims and Christians still continue this tradition.

Just cut and paste this whereever you want it:

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This user is a Hindu

This Fire Burns Always 16:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)



BE

I got my degree from Mumbai University which gives BE in Computer Engineering. --Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 17:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Indo-Pakistani War of 1971

You asked for an assessment, not a peer review; hence, you'll probably have trouble finding the peer review details ;-)

More to the point, are you disagreeing with the "quality" or "importance" at which the article was rated? The two are somewhat different, so it would be helpful to know which one you think is incorrect. Kirill Lokshin 12:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

i think the importance is fine but quality could have been "A" atleast. nids 07:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

re: just for friendship

hmm . . . i'm not sure if i am the youngest one to have won the wikihalo. i don't even know how nomitnated me. yup, i am a male, and i do have a boyfriend. i had an ex-girlfriend but she broke up with me. oh well. yes, i can lick my elbow.. i found that out just a few days ago (i got steak sauce on it so i licked it off). yeah, i'm both swedish and german on my mom's side. i have no idea what i am on my dad's side (my mom died after i was born, and my dad committed suicied, like, when i was two or something). WereWolf 20:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:Mother tongues

What if Devaki was a Gujarati and Yashoda a Hindi-speaking person? What would be Krishna's mother tongue? And the practical fact is, I know Hindi much better than Gujarati, even as the latter is supposedly my "mother" tongue. I'm glad I could satisfy some of your curiousity. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always 22:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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