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Welcome to Misplaced Pages, Cliftonian! I am Genius101 and have been editing Misplaced Pages for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Misplaced Pages! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Genius101 14:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Wodehouse, again

Thank you so much for your comments at the recent PR for P.G. Wodehouse. The article is now at FAC should you wish to comment further. Many thanks once again. – SchroCat (talk) 01:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Of course. —  Cliftonian (talk)  11:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your edits. Just one point -- where a ref indicates that the subject of the article is "x", please do not ... on an article on the subject ... revise that to delete that fact, and to instead indicate what the family the person was born into was. First of all, the subject of the article is our main focus of interest. Second of all, we follow the ref. We do not say "s was born into an American family", but rather that x was American, for example. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:43, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Also -- where an infobox parameter exists for ethnicity, and the parameter is filled in, and RS-sourced, please do not delete it based on your personal view that the person's ethnicity should not be reflected in the infobox. If you would like to have the infobox revised to delete parameters that you dislike, seek consensus at the infobox talk page. Tx. Epeefleche (talk) 14:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Cheers —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:19, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Disambiguation page

Hello, Cliftonian. When you moved Roger Hawkins to a new title and then changed the old title into a disambiguation page, you may not have been aware of WP:FIXDABLINKS, which says:

When creating disambiguation pages, fix all resulting mis-directed links.
Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

It would be a great help if you would check the other Misplaced Pages articles that contain links to "Roger Hawkins" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah—thanks for this Russ, on oversight on my part. I will rectify this when I have time. Thanks! —  Cliftonian (talk)  17:50, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
That was a new experience. —  Cliftonian (talk)  09:28, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 June 2015

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Many congratulations on the promotion of Mutiny on the Bounty, easily one of the best articles I have read in a very long time. The article is a prime example of what can happen when two great contributors get together with a load of books. Cassianto 15:16, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the star, your help along the way and the extremely kind words Cassianto. It was a fun one, that's for sure! Cheers and keep well! Have a great week. —  Cliftonian (talk)  17:19, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on getting Mutiny on the Bounty up to featured status, John! You and Brian did some great work there. My heart sank when I read your most recent note on the JC's Girls FAC. I apologized there and wrote an extended note. I hope you are having a good weekend as well. Neelix (talk) 22:59, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this David. Have a great week and let me know if there's any other way I can lend a hand. —  Cliftonian (talk)  09:06, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes, the Mutiny collaboration was most enjoyable, and it would fun to work again with you in the future. In the meantime, could I request a small favour? Could you find time to do a short talkpage review of The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold? I'm not going to put it through a formal peer review, but I'm asking one or two trusted colleagues to cast an eye over it and give me opinion. It is fairly brief (under 4,000w, anyway). Brianboulton (talk) 14:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Certainly—I'll try to get something done this evening. —  Cliftonian (talk)  14:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Beadle

This is just a quick note to let anybody watching this page know that I have put Hugh Beadle up for a peer review with a view to taking it to FAC. All comments welcome. —  Cliftonian (talk)  19:35, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Cecil Rhodes obsequy and sic

I don't think you should have removed the template from the Cecil Rhodes article. The author seemed to use wikt:obsequy incorrectly, if wiktionary is to be believed obsequy means funeral rites, which makes no sense in the Rotberg quote, and so the sic template was placed there to show that the quote does actually say obsequy, but it's the wrong word. sic means "yes we know it's the wrong word, but that's what the author wrote" Wayne Jayes (talk) 10:06, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Wayne, thanks for the note. How's it the wrong word? It's an obscure and old-fashioned word, yes, but so far as I can see it is being used here to refer to a summary examination of the person's life, similar to a eulogy given at a funeral (and therefore perhaps unduly sympathetic). Some more examples of this usage in scholarly works are here, here and here. I must admit I am no expert here and I think a third opinion would be helpful, so I will defer to someone more acquainted with this kind of thing than me. In the meantime I have added a Wiktionary link to the word in the article. @Dank: I hope you don't mind me pinging you here. What do you think on this? —  Cliftonian (talk)  11:43, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I would get rid of the quote; not many readers will understand it. - Dank (push to talk) 12:57, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
OK, out it comes. Thanks Dan. —  Cliftonian (talk)  13:08, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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St. George

I would undo your last revert as it is in violation of the revert rule. Lazyfoxx (talk) 14:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

What? I haven't violated WP:3RR. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
WP:1RR rule for Israel/Palestine related articles, St. George falls in that spectrum, just letting you know. Lazyfoxx (talk) 15:20, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
St George has nothing to do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:20, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Are you sure about that? Lazyfoxx (talk) 15:29, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Go on then. Tell me how he's relevant. —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
If the article had nothing to do with the subject area why do you care so much that the word Palestinian is not used on it? Lazyfoxx (talk) 15:35, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I want to replace the word "Palestinian" with "Palestine". This is not a political issue. —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:41, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
St. George is a part of the History of Palestine which makes him subject to the I/P 1RR. Lazyfoxx (talk) 15:45, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
If we go to dispute resolution and they decide to interpret the rule that way, I'll accept it. But, with respect, I don't think they will. I'd appreciate if we could stop having two streams of conversation and continue the chat over at your talk page. Cheers, —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:48, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I was just notifying you, cheers. Lazyfoxx (talk) 15:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
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