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Johan Matton
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Non notable actor, recreation of page deleted previously via discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Johan_Matton Kavdiamanju (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Please read deletion page or talk page if having a concern with the article instead of placing it for speedy deletion. Many contributors/user have worked on this article and added notable news articles regarding Johan Matton's notabilty. Non commercial aspects has also been deleted. And there is a Swedish version of the page. seems like user https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Kavdiamanju might have an outside agenda or missed checking the contribution history for this article. Johan Matton was concisered a notable topic and the article has been polished several times by many users. The discussion of this article to be deleted seem non relevant as many larger improvements and additions has been made since it's creation.
- Not sure if Kavdiamanju has missed the history contributions or has an agenda. The Article Johan Matton has been updated the last 3 months by several news articles and a link to a recent TV interview. More han 10 separate contributors/users has added news regardig Johan Matton being notable. Worth taking a look at the article and read through.
- The article has also been polished several times and commercial aspects has been deleted. There is also a Swedish Misplaced Pages regarding the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.19.146 (talk) 19:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC) — 172.56.19.146 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete This low-quality source was the best I could find that provides anywhere near substantial coverage of the subject. There are two extremely brief mentions in Aftonbladet but other than that the sources are all primary sources (film festivals, imdb etc.). WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG are therefore not met. SmartSE (talk) 20:07, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep http://www.kens5.com/videos/entertainment/television/great-day-sa/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30935427/ seem to be a 5 minute segment on Johan Matton aired July 30th on CBS / Kens 5 Good Morning SA which after a quick check has 2 million viewers. The link is included in the article. http://lt.se/kulturnoje/1.2931451-nykvarnbo-siktar-hogt-i-new-york is a full article on Johan Matton in Swedish news paper. The subjects notable awards and recognition within the field of independent film and acting seems to have strong coverage and sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:FC7E:741:E73C:8780 (talk) 20:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC) — 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:FC7E:741:E73C:8780 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment the previous (read: 1st) AfD drew many socks and IP voters, so I have added a tag (potentially preemptively). Primefac (talk) 20:47, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. North America 00:44, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. North America 00:44, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. North America 00:45, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep I don't know how to formulate me within[REDACTED] standards for arguing an article so I merely ask for the judging of this article to read through the whole article and look at the references. Especially view the full interview with the subject: http://www.kens5.com/videos/entertainment/television/great-day-sa/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30935427/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swedish Journalist (talk • contribs) 05:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC) — Swedish Journalist (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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Please more experienced Misplaced Pages users, read through and judge following articles. I found these 6 references Interviewing or writing direct related article regarding the subject on top of the indirect ones: Good Morning SA: http://www.kens5.com/story/entertainment/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30936177/ Interview for a pod cast: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/brian-decicco/boat-over-the-mountain/e/interview-with-john-matton-til-we-meet-again-38089478 Swedish news Paper Article/Interview http://lt.se/kulturnoje/1.2931451-nykvarnbo-siktar-hogt-i-new-york Fan page Article http://www.fansshare.com/news/johan-matton-career-in-2013/ Press release? The B I Z was taken apart here because[REDACTED] did not approve on that ending, to read article please put it together. http://www.filmindustrynetwork.b i z/till-we-meet-again-world-premiere-at-san-antonio-film-festival/29338 Interview https://sv.stagepool.com/nyfiken_pa/6947/det_ar_valdigt_manga_nej_pa_ett_ja Interview http://archive.is/qXdXI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:501F:197D:EB60:BC83 (talk) 02:34, 13 August 2015 (UTC) — 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:501F:197D:EB60:BC83 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep - with some margin this article passe WP:GNG. It is clear that this actor has had a few important roles. And it is sourced.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 13:41, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - This article passes WP:GNG. There is no question the actor in this matter has had some parts of significance and that the actors has won a few awards. Sourced with good references and some less important references. I admit that a more thorough search had to be made with his nick name mentioned in the article. The two more important references would be the Kens5 Good Morning SA interview http://www.kens5.com/story/entertainment/2015/07/31/till-we-meet-again/30936177/ and a Swedish interview http://lt.se/kulturnoje/1.2931451-nykvarnbo-siktar-hogt-i-new-york≤/. A side mention is that the article is far from an Orphan article with many direct linked articles.
— 2604:2000:F1E6:ED00:A65E:60FF:FECF:3F73 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 00:10, 20 August 2015 (UTC).
- Sources form the Nordic Film Festival is really telling. Clearly notable per GNG. --BabbaQ (talk) 19:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Okay, semi-protected, so let's see if we can reach a consensus without the likely socks floating around. Courcelles (talk) 04:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 04:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Mainly too soon. A lot of what is here would be considered to be original research, since most links are to directly related sites like web sites for the movies themselves. I looked at nearly every reference, and found only one (#4) that might be considered a minor but reliable third-party reference. Here is what I conclude about the others:
- Not RS (not third-party resources, or not reliable) 1, 2, 8, 17-19, 25, 29
- Only mentions: 5-7, 9-13, 16
- No mention: 14, 15, 32
- Minor awards, mostly "also rans": 3, 7, 20-21 LaMona (talk) 17:26, 24 August 2015 (UTC)