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LaRouche lived all his adult life in New York (1953–1983) or Virginia (1983–present), which means the two major newspapers of record are The New York Times and The Washington Post. Both have written extensively about him, including several extended investigative and analysis pieces from the 1970s to the 2000s. These articles provide the structure of much of this article—in that we highlight what they highlight. For their archives on LaRouche see below. For the books we use see here.

Left Proto Fascists

Fascism is by nature a reactionary right wing phenomenon. To call it left-fascism is contradictory and eclectic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:309E:D2BE:3A43:8540 (talk) 22:42, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't really have an opinion on this, but FWIW Misplaced Pages has an article on Left-wing fascism. Joe Bodacious (talk) 05:03, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
It appears that it is not uncommon for rival groups of leftists to call each other left-fascists. Joe Bodacious (talk) 05:12, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Modern Fascism originated 100 years ago when the question of how to respond to the outbreak of World War I disrupted socialist organizations. Benito Mussolini had been a leading Socialist Party activist and newspaper editor when he was ousted for nationalist support of the war. He then founded the fascist movement. Fascism originated, then, as a specific nationalist variant of revolutionary socialism. Cullen Let's discuss it 02:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Reliable sources can call it that. Reliable sources can be contradictory and eclectic. Your original research not withstanding.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 10:56, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Fascism as radical socialism is not a new idea or "original reseach". For example, Jonah Goldberg's recent book "Liberal Fascism" explores this. He argues that fascism was leftist, but was labeled "right wing" because of its refusal to give allegiance to the Comintern in Moscow. DonPMitchell (talk) 04:13, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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Is it really appropriate to describe the subject as "controversial" without any additional qualifiers or explanation in the lead sentence? IMHO this is not NPOV at all it would be best to take out the word "controversial" and leave it to the rest of the article or in a separate paragraph below the first in the introduction. Laval (talk) 07:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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