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Andrew Jackson Zilker

Wow, Andrew Jackson Zilker is a heck of a way to make an entrance! Well done. Melchoir 10:11, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Come to think of it, what is your reference? Melchoir 10:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, it's late night for me too. Well, I'll add one of the milder tags to the article asking for sources. No offense, of course! Melchoir 10:45, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Sure, it would be great if you could include those sources. In fact, citing an unreliable source is better than than using it without mention. Ultimately, the perfect Misplaced Pages article would list and refute the most popular myths about Zilker, if any are found; but whether myth or fact, for now it's enough to know where the info comes from. Melchoir 11:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Apartheid

Please stop changing the articles on apartheid. This is a very contentious issue, and is currently being discussed at Misplaced Pages:Central_discussions/Apartheid. In the meantime, both apartheid articles are being kept stable until such time as a resolution is reached. Thank you. — Impi 23:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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Local regression

Thanks for doing the merge. Btyner 02:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

SLBN vs. BUV

Sorry about that, I never thought about the IATA code. I work at an airport and we only use the ICAO. Anyway here's what I found. If you go to here and enter BUV into the IATA box it brings up Bella Union, Uruguay. This also shows BUV as Bella Union, Uruguay. Next I tried google with Bolivia and Uruguay. Another releiable source is Falling Rain and all I found there was the town of Bella Union, Uruguay. Most seem to say that BUV is in Uruguay but I can't find the government listing of airports in that country. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Two different people. The first a potato chip salesman going to Cambridge, Ontario and came here. The second going to Victoria, British Columbia and got sent to Victoria Island. There are IATA codes for towns, railways and airports and there are also duplicates in different countries. The ICAO is better because you can identify the country by the first or first two letters and there are no duplicates worldwide. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Environmental effects - Lebanon

Thanks for your comment. I was referring to size mainly in terms of bytes - while 30kb is no longer an issue, WP:SIZE states that we should try to keep the article as close to 50kb as possible - and it's currently 70kb. Photos aren't actually included in the size of articles, I beleive, only the text and formatting. Hence why size as in brevity is important too - all of the sections, I think, have their own sub articles now, so the only thing that should remain is the summary. Sorry if I deleted info that isn't in the parent article - I assumed the comparison with the Exxon Valdez was already in there, but I didn't check, and I should have. I've no dislike of that particular comment; as you say, it provides a scale with which people can measure the spill, but just in general, that section needs to be shorter. Since there is no sub article for the fires or the depleted uranium, I left those sections in, even though they aren't nearly as important in the oil spill. Anyway, I've explained what I'm trying to do - you've done a great job on that section, so I'll leave it up to you what to do with it. Iorek85 06:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. My mistake - I missed the "readable prose" criteria. I thought the kb list at the middle of the article referred to the total size (excluding pictures), not the readable prose. However, reading some of the discussions (on the size talkpge), length is still somewhat of an issue - History of Russia (I believe the longest featured article we have) is 78kb, only a few more than the Lebanon article. Most of that is text, however, but you can understand a vast topic such as that requiring such a size, but I don't think it can be justified for a one month long conflict. (the 1982 Lebanon War doesn't even register, while World War II is 108kb, and the Vietnam War is 128). However, as you rightly point out, the readable prose isn't a concern - I think the references are the main problem. As for speeds, remember uploads; down here in backwardsland cable and ADSL have a 128kb/256kb upload, and only 2 out of the 8 million or so houses have at least that. Uploading a 78kB article edit will take 5 seconds, and somewhere in the region of 20 on dialup. Sure, its not a big thing, but it can be annoying.

And you've nothing to apologise for. Iorek85 08:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Historical Background in 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

Could you please stop adding the section on the May 2006 ceasefire, and calling it "reverting vandalism"? I have moved (note, not deleted) it into the historical background section where it flows better. The ceasefire itself is not worthy of a larger section; I feel its mention in the historical background is enough. If you disagree, it'd be good if we could take it up on the talkpage. Thanks. Iorek85 23:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Harvard Extension

I got your message on Harvard Extension. It's most unfortunate that that is the case. I think Harvard may be doing a disservice to younger students who get into this program which apparently, consistent with extension programs at most universities, was designed for older superannuated students with special needs not planning on entering the career rat race in the first instance (agricultural classes for local farmers etc. is the classic example from "land grant" universities). In fact previously, the NYT article noted, those of presumptive undergraduate age were specifically barred from the program. Thus I felt the young lady featured in the NYT article who turned down admission at Hopkins to go to Harvard Extension may feel in later years that she made a big mistake, of course she could transfer. The point being why be a second class citizen anywhere or as Caesar supposedly commented in response to a query from an aide while traveling through a small village in the Alps during his march on Rome, he would rather be village chief in that small place than second fiddle in Rome any day. It is good, however, that Harvard is seeking to broaden its role of community service.Tom Cod 17:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Categories

Apologies. It looks like in two years since I last looked into the rule book the formal interpretation has reached a different consensus. Thanks for bringing my attention to it. `'mikka (t) 19:39, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: WP:BUNCH

Actually, it's pretty common knowledge among people who work with infoboxes. The issue is a known bug with CSS rendering (and only shows up on some browsers, to boot); I don't think there's ever been a Misplaced Pages-wide consensus on whether we should move templates around (potentially causing gaps to appear on larger screens) or just wait for the bug to be fixed.

The other obvious fix, incidentally—and the reason why this issue doesn't come up so much in practice—is to simply make the lead longer. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 22:33, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

In any case, I've added a note to the relevant template instructions. Kirill Lokshin 22:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

1982 Lebanon War

Southern Lebanon and Israeli Security Zone are two different things; please look them up. For most of the post-invasion period, Hezbollah controlled much of Southern Lebanon, excluding the Israeli Security Zone, which was controlled by Israel until 2000. (I added the SLA, but it would be difficult to say that they "controlled" the area given their dependence on Israel.) I'm not sure why you keep insisting that Israel controlled southern Lebanon, but, after 1985, it did not. Calbaer 00:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Israel-Lebanon conflict

Good work on the lead, it is better. I still think "relations" is the more appropriate title, but I want to wait and see what other editors have to say about it. Definitely we shouldn't merge into Arab-Israeli conflict.Sanguinalis 00:27, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

2006 Israel Lebanon conflict Catholics and Maronites

Hello Kendrick, I'm sorry if this sounds rude but you are mistaken about "most Christians in Lebanon are/were Cathloic", although most christians in Lebanon are not Maronites today, they were certainly the majority of christians when lebanon became independent. I think you might be confused due to the fact that today the Maronite church is in full communion with the Catholic church, so they are technically unified. However, to actually refer to Maronites as Catholic really is misleading since they actually have entirely different histories. In fact, the Maronite church is more similar to the eastern rite churches than to the Catholic church. Although this is not my area of expertise (in fact I am not even christian) I do however happen to know quite a bit on this subject. I will be changing the passage back in the article, if you would like to discuss it more please leave me a message on my talk page.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 11:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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