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Mary j. ray

shouldnt she be on the top five canadians list? because she is older than zelda mcague. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.1.222 (talk) 02:29, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

She should be. Neptune5000 (talk) 02:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Living supercentenarians

Is there a legitimate reason why we should have the verified people right at the top of the page and the unverified right at the bottom? Surely we should keep them together? SiameseTurtle (talk) 11:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Margaret Hack born May 16,2016 is not on any list why? Baldydj (talk) 16:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Why would someone born less than a month ago belong on a list of people who are over 100 years old? -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Alice Sjöquist

Alice Sjöquist has been inserted on this page, but there are several problems with her claim. First and foremost, her claim has not been verified by any of the usual suspects, though as of June 27th on the newsgroup, it appears that all that is needed now is for the documents to be sent. Therefore, we should omit her until such time as this happens.

Secondly, she was born in England, so her birth place of "B.C." is incorrect, and she also belongs on the immigrant list. Canada Jack (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

So... any consensus on whether we should include her on the 10 oldest Canadians list? I've looked at other pages and there is no consistency on whether candidates should be native-born or at least residents. I've inserted citation tags instead or removing her, as placeholders until the various sources update their lists. As mentioned earlier, this case has been verified, the final paperwork simply needs to be forwarded to Robert Young etc. Canada Jack (talk) 16:40, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
This case is simply a "jumped gun"--it's validated. If you want to wait until she appears on the GRG lists, that's Ok.Ryoung122 01:07, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Emigrants and immigrants

It is against WP:NPOV to list these in a table together as it means anyone who has emigrated will never be listed on any main national list. You can't just ignore these people. SiameseTurtle (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

THEY SHOULD PUT MARY RAY AS THE OLDEST CANADIAN SINCE SHES THE OLDEST PERSON BORN THERE, JUST BECAUSE SHE MOVED DOESN'T MEAN SHE ISN'T STILL THE OLDEST CANADIAN. 72.155.225.238 (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Unverified Canadian Supercentenarians

I really do hope at least one of these Canadian supercentenarians will at least be on the "pending" list soon. I'm Canadian and it doesn't feel right to me not to have a living oldest person on this list right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.88.163 (talk) 18:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Why is Margaret Hack born in Manitoba May16. 1906 and living in BC not on the list Baldydj (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Cora Hansen

At one point I was searching through the 1900 U.S. Census for anyone with the first name Cora (most people use their married name, and she was married at some point), and found one Cora M. Clausen/Clauson, with listed birth of March 1899, in Beltrami Co., MN. Now there is a newspaper clipping here --> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CPtXDMLVHi4/S-jG_nVCuVI/AAAAAAAABEI/qUblJ6j9jAM/s1600/IMG.jpg claiming she moved with her family from Minnesota to Jenner, Alberta in 1912. This Cora Clausen's father has the slightly rarer name of Elling Clausen. Interestingly enough, Cora Clausen is living with her father Elling Clausen in Alberta in the 1916 Canadian Census. According to 1900 U.S. Census information, Cora Clausen's parents, Elling and Eliza Mary (Elise Marie) married in Norway and immigrated to the U.S. in the 1880s. I hope this information helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.185.40.181 (talk) 03:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Cora's probable parents:

15.06.1878: Marriage in Dragedal, Norway (8): http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5948&idx_id=5948&uid=ny&idx_side=-160 (Parish register)

11.07.1882: Emigration: http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=57442&merk=57442#ovre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.198.201.10 (talk) 09:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Cora Hansen is now in the process of verification. Family documents from Norway have been established, matching census returns from US Census 1900 and 1910, as well as Canadian census of 1916. A news report from 2002 has reference to her husband, Richard Hansen, thus establishing the link to her surname Hansen (née Clausen/Clauson).

She married in 1934, most likely in Jenner, Alberta, where she lived 60 years.

Full verification can be completed when birth certificate is found (or baptismn confirming date of birth) and confirmation of marriage is found.

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The above is original research as far as I can determine as GRG has not listed her case as "pending." The list from GRG was updated Dec 17. So, this case should be simply listed as "unverified" with the citation for her claimed 112th birthday (it is on the living superc page) attached as a source. Canada Jack (talk) 21:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Cora deseves fair treatment. Newspaper article I gave link to, has been out in public since April 2002. It can hardly be 'original research' to find a newspaper article. All findings in the case have, of course been forwarded to GRG. Verification process is underway and case is thus PENDING.Celvin11 22:30, 9 January 2012 (CET)

You seem to be confused. A newspaper article on her case simply establishes that she has a claim to being 112 (or 103 in 2002). (Preferred is the one from 2011 on her 112th birthday which establishes she celebrated that claimed birthday.) As for her "pending" status, until her name is posted by a source specializing in verifying claims as "pending," she is "unverified" for the purposes of this page. The "pending," after all, suggests an authority has gathered some documentation and requires some more to move her to the "verified" list. All I see above is someone's research which may match the person in question, not some notification from GRG or any other authority that this person's claim is in their "pending" folder. It is not up to the person who gathered the evidence to declare the case is "pending", it is up to the authority in question to declare the case is "pending." Above is called "Original research," even if 100 per cent accurate and proves what you says it proves. Hopefully, as you state they have or in the process of receiving this information, we shall shortly see that "pending" status, which, if verified, would establish her as one of the 15 oldest people in the world! Canada Jack (talk) 22:04, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Facts in the case have been established. Norwegian family documents, census returns, marriage confirmed in church book, emigration protocol, matches US and Canadian census records perfectly (1900, 1910 and 1916), US Census of 1900 even states month of birth (March) and year (1899), however not exact date of birth. Newspaper article - which is NOT original research - bridges census findings with her marriage and life in Canada, making her story trustworthy. She is who she claims, and documents supports it. Its sad to see some calling himself 'Canada Jack' bullying with Canada's Oldest Person. Rather, Misplaced Pages should be a place honouring people and bring in fact. Instead of bullying, rather wikipedians should welcome truth and factual information. .Celvin11 23:50, 9 January 2012 (CET)

Celvin, you are missing the point. As I said, her claim may be 100 per cent valid, the research you mention iron-clad, proving her claim. But to insert that here and say the claim is ON THAT BASIS "pending" is original research. Do yourself a favour and acquaint yourself with what that means in terms of[REDACTED] as that is the only issue here. Until one of our reliable sources - in this case, one which specializes in gerontology research like Robert at GRG - declares the case to be "pending" or "unverified," we can only list it as an unverified claim, as long as there is confirmation she has celebrated her most recent birthday via, say, a newspaper article. Canada Jack (talk) 14:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
declares the case to be "pending" or "unverified," we can only... I meant "verified"... Canada Jack (talk) 16:37, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I felt bad about this encounter, as Celvin had done this in good faith, yet the case did not appear for a few more weeks on the sources. In the end, Cora Hansen enjoyed a few weeks as being the official holder of oldest Canadian before her death. Now, sadly, comes news that Celvin, who hailed from Norway and was a long-time contributor to GRG and WOP (once a moderator), has died, at the age of 47. Canada Jack (talk) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Herman Smith-Johannsen

According to me Herman Smith-Johannsen should be considered the oldest living person in Canada until his return to Norway where he was born. Then he became the oldest living person in Norway, even if he spent just few days or weeks there, before passing away. What do you think?--Pascar (talk) 23:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Herman Smith-Johannsen became Canadian citizen in 1928. He lived permanently in Canada 58 years, from 1928 until autumn 1986. His immigration to Norway is recorded 19 Sep 1986. Celvin11 13:04, 9 January 2012 (CET)

Unverified Supercentenarians: who is Canada's Oldest person?

I do not believe that unverified supercentenarians should be listed as Canada's oldest person, but a separate addenda table should be made.

Also, where's Fan Shee Hoo?

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/918703--supercentenarian-just-kept-on-fighting

You can't just pick and choose.76.97.68.237 (talk) 16:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Unverified persons shouldn't be included at all (until they are verified). Nor should pending persons as they are also unverified. DerbyCountyinNZ 04:16, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ranking of unverified cases

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Sum Ying Fung - 112yrs

Sum Ying Fung was reported by mainstream media as being Canada's current oldest living person when she died at age 112 in 2011. Should she be listed on this list page? Her biographic article is also currently being debated for deletion: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Sum Ying Fung. Canuckle (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Error made, please help!

I accidentally deleted Dolly Gibb and Louise Turcotte. Can a more skilled editor please add them back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:241:2:5F06:2D02:138C:908A:70F (talk) 09:10, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Zoltan Sarosy seems to have died on 21.06.2017, see

https://twitter.com/MarkTWIC/status/877464163026698245

2.247.247.183 (talk) 17:52, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

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Henrietta Irwin

How come she has been removed from the "Living Canadian supercentenarians" section of the article? She hasn't passed away. Timothy McGuire (talk) 01:25, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

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