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2014 patent

Another news site reporting the patent is https://www.oilandgas360.com/use-of-santilli-magnecules-to-clean-fossil-fuel-combustion/

One of the following news sites on Santilli's patent on magnecules should be quoted in his Article

http://business.smdailypress.com/smdailypress/news/read/36960286/Use_of_Santilli_Magnecules_to_Clean_Fossil_Fuel_Combustion https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/TNRG/news/Use-of-Santilli-Magnecules-to-Clean-Fossil-Fuel-Combustion?id=204133 http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3941732 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethical1999 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

It's always interesting when a scientist like this gets a patent like this: http://patents.justia.com/patent/9700870 US Patent for Method and apparatus for the industrial production of new hydrogen-rich fuels Patent (Patent # 9,700,870) Apr 3, 2014 - MAGNEGAS CORPORATION "A method with various related apparatus polarizes the orbits of atomic electrons by strong magnetic fields creating in the atomic structure a magnetic field. The polarized atoms are introduced onto fuels, improving an efficiency of the fuels, including but not limiting to, new forms of gaseous, liquid and solid fuels with a bonded-in content of Hydrogen, Oxygen and/or other gases to enhance energy output and decrease contaminants in the exhaust. Further, methods of coating computer chips and other surfaces for their protection against oxidation, new fuels with energy content and flame temperatures greater than those of the conventional form of the same fuels, etc." FYI GangofOne (talk) 02:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Why Misplaced Pages does not list this important patent in Santilli's article? Is it because it proves the politics of Calo's criticism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph9871 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

@Joseph9871: We would need several sources meeting WP:RS discussing it in some depth. Please dont suggest that editors are blocking something for nefarious reasons. Doug Weller talk 21:16, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Would the patent number and the pdf of the entire patent be sufficient to provide a reliable source? Editorialeffort (talk) 21:16, 26 February 2018 (UTC) Editorialeffort

In a word, no. If the patent is 'important', its importance can be demonstrated by evidence that it has been discussed in depth by third-party reliable sources. 86.169.142.110 (talk) 08:11, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

That's the gist of it. Yes, you can prove that the patent exists, but why would it be mentioned in an encyclopedia? A claim that it proves something is what we call original research and not allowed unless you have multiple reliable sources showing that it is significant. Doug Weller talk 08:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

So Pepijn van Erp blog is more important and reliable than the US Patent Office?Editorialeffort (talk)editorial Editorialeffort —Preceding undated comment added 20:43, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

(cur | prev) 20:50, 15 August 2018‎ David Eppstein (talk | contribs)‎ . . (15,265 bytes) (+3)‎ . . (Undid revision 855083228 by Editorialeffort (talk) I don't think this is an improvement) (undo | thank) (Tag: Undo) David Eppstein, if you look at the source, that is the only line that reports, no other criticism is listed , so it seems to me that it is an improvement since it is accurate and specific.Criticism is a legitimate activity, calling someone stupid is not, no matter how Pepijn van Erp and cohort pretend that it is freedom of speech. You can leave it, but it is not the reason there is a law suit and you bear the responsibility of the information. Not that it matters, it is just question of integrity of the processEditorialeffort (talk)Editorialeffort

Interesting word choice. Is that a Capracotta accent I hear? 21:24, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Capracotta does not have an accent, it is only my trying to pick the best words among the three languages I am fluent in..so far it served me well

- Editorialeffort So you're saying the lawsuit is purely over the title of van Erp's blog post, and not over its content? Do you have a published reliable source for that? —David Eppstein (talk) 21:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The published source is the Villamedia article and you need to ask Pepijn van Erp.By the way the article is in Dutch and it is not a good service for the readers of Misplaced PagesEditorialeffort (talk)Editorialeffort

The Villamedia article says that the suit is over a critical article, and in a separate part of the Villamedia article it gives the title of the critical article. Nowhere does it say that the cause of the suit is purely the title of the article. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

"It is not that I sleep badly, because I have confidence in a good outcome. But it costs a lot of energy. I am most surprised about the fact that such a court in the US does not immediately put such a matter aside. "

Well, it is the standard story of Mr. Van Erp. Always play on the man behind the subject. Discussing and mocking the subject in a blurry way and if possible, the man / woman behind the derided story may also be popular. Boontje comes for his wage ..?

And yes, choose from now 'something more subtle' your words .. ;-)"Editorialeffort (talk)Editorialeffort

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