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1984 anti Sikh riot should be termed genocide

An edit of mine was reverted in which some suggest the events of 1984 were "not a genocide". Under what pretext are we assuming this was not a genocide? By sheer Misplaced Pages standards alone the events of 1746 are termed Sikh genocide of 1746 and 1762 as Sikh genocide of 1762. Then how is 1984 not a genocide? Surely Indian government claims cannot be taken seriously, as they will deny it at all costs. Then surely the ground facts should be able to decipher if this was a genocide or not, and the facts clearly add up to a genocide having taken place. What I'm sensing here are double standards. A "genocide" only seems to happen when Muslims are the culprits. However when crazed right wing Hindu elements engage in the same behaviour it's passed off as a "riot".

Furthermore, several motions and news articles to neutral news sources have already mentioned that this indeed was a genocide. For example:

I look forward to having a further discussion on this matter. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 17:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)


Furthermore, I'll be inviting several commentators from Sikhs For Justice (http://www.sikhsforjustice.org) to add to this debate and have this article renamed rightfully to a genocide. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 17:53, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
The vast majority of sources refer to it as the Anti-Sikh riots and we go by what the majority of sources say. The term genocide is presented as an alternative name and that's about where it's going to stay. About inviting other commentators, please read WP:CANVASS, in particular the sections on stealth canvassing. --regentspark (comment) 21:08, 2 June 2017 (UTC)


I agree, the term should either be genocide or pogrom. It was organized violence incited towards Sikhs. " The first sentences denotes it as such. The offical title should be changed to pogrom. If you wish to keep the word riot then it should swap places with pogrom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.96.38.155 (talk) 19:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Some IPs have recently tried to change the title, I have reverted them and pointed to talk page for discussion.a year old Consensus in the above discussion states that genocide is invalid per comment by regentspark. Kindly understand that the title is based on WP:COMMONNAME policy. Anti-sikh riots is the common name and not Genocide. --DBigXrayᗙ 12:02, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

I would like to further add that California and Ontario state legislatures have also ruled it genocide - Numerous governmetn organizzations in wikileaks have aknowldged that congress gvt was repsonsible. Despite enourmous evidence, there are some people who want to inflict hurt and influence by referring to these events as riots. I've posted this before but @DBigXray is a hyperactive contributer on Indian issues and exhibits a consistant anti-sikh bias which has mislead on many pages relating to the events of 1984. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goosemuffin (talk • contribs) 21:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

I would like to further add that in 2015 Dehli special assembly recognized the events as genocide. There is some room for debate about whether or not it is a pogrom or genocide - but terming the events as riots are a deliberate attempt to decieve. @Dbigxray I have caught him before and he is consistently involved in deceptive anti-sikh editing. I'm not sure if it is deliberate or if it is because he trusts and parrots Indian news media. It's important to understand India has intolerably low levels of Freedom of Press (138th ranking) so it's understandable that many of the prominant editors from India may simply not know they are being deceptive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goosemuffin (talk • contribs) 12:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Can we have a little less ad hominem and more facts from you, such as how you know that a State and a Province have the power to rule on something that took place in India? Britmax (talk) 14:11, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
With all due respect sir, I am not engaging in ad-hominem I am merely informing the forum of DBigXray, a systemically biased user who should recuse himself from Sikh wiki's. Now In reference to your question, I'm sorry but ANYBODY can see how silly it is. The ONLY people who can rule on THIS matter are FOREIGN bodies such as states (connecticut, california), provinces (Ontario), and Intelligence agencies (CIA - via Wikileaks). WHY? BECAUSE INDIA IS THE ACCUSED in this MATTER. How can you not see that? How can you ask such a question? You think India can rule on it's own behavior? Can a murderur rule over his own murder trial? SECOND, India has a freedom of the press ranking at 138th!!! 138 is atrocioius. Unforgiveable for a democracy. Where is the outrage from Hindus my friend? I'm tired of Pro-India, Hindu bias on these Wikis. SIKHS feel this every single day as their voices are shut out of the media - while Hindus sit there thinking they're country is all good. In terms of freedom of speech, my friend, India is worse than Somalia for Sikhs. And pro-India Hindus have proven time and time again that they CANNOT be trusted to comment on political divisive matters regarding India on Misplaced Pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goosemuffin (talk • contribs) 09:07, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Lead Section

If you have any further comments on improving the lead section. lets discuss it here. Edit summaries do not count as discussion. cheers. --DBigXrayᗙ 14:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

yes, to conform it with the existing titles of these articles. --DBigXrayᗙ 16:48, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Need suggestion for perpetrators field in the infobox

Hi All, The infobox said


And I changed it to

Although there are several reports alleging members of the Congress party as perpetrators, this isn't confirmed. Should the article infobox mention this as alleged or just completely remove the perps parameter, suggestions/opinions invited. --DBigXrayᗙ 19:53, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

I have removed it. There is nothing for the infobox to summarise until it is sourced. Reliably. Britmax (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Britmax, Thanks a lot for the kind reply and the action. Agree with your opinion. --DBigXrayᗙ 20:26, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with this removal. I did find some sources and will re-add the content at a later stage. Adamgerber80 (talk) 21:40, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
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