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Welcome to the Media Copyright Questions page, a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions. For all other questions please see Misplaced Pages:Questions.

How to add a copyright tag to an existing image

1. On the description page of the image (the one whose name starts File:), click Edit this page.
2. From the page Misplaced Pages:File copyright tags, choose the appropriate tag:
   • For work you created yourself, use one of the ones listed under the heading "For image creators".
   • For a work downloaded from the internet, please understand that the vast majority of images from the internet are not appropriate for use on Misplaced Pages. Exceptions include images from flickr that have an acceptable license, images that are in the public domain because of their age or because they were created by the United States federal government, or images used under a claim of fair use. If you do not know what you are doing, please post a link to the image here and ask BEFORE uploading it.
   • For an image created by someone else who has licensed their image under an acceptable Creative Commons or other free license, or has released their image into the public domain, this permission must be documented. Please see Requesting copyright permission for more information.
3. Type the name of the tag (e.g.; {{Cc-by-4.0}}), not forgetting {{ before and }} after, in the edit box on the image's description page.
4. Remove any existing tag complaining that the image has no tag (for example, {{untagged}})
5. Hit Publish changes.
6. If you still have questions, go on to "How to ask a question" below.

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Image:JRE-EC205-500.jpg Carnildo/OrphanBot

Hi Carnildo, and thanks for inquiring about Image:JRE-EC205-500.jpg. I located the same file on the Japanese Misplaced Pages and added copyright information to the English Misplaced Pages Image page. I hope it is sufficient. If not, please let me know and I'll see if I can dig deeper. Having started the article the photo illustrated, I have an interest in the subject.

Best regards, --Fg2 10:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

From your message it seems like the image was taken by a jawiki user and licensed under GFDL? If so then the info is fine. I removed the unsourced tag. If that's not the case and there are still some questions please ask :) - cohesion 19:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

That's right. I'll add the photo back to the article. Thanks --Fg2 20:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

CC license has changed since uploading

Hi, I don't know whether this question has been asked or not. In the creative commons FAQ, there is a definition what if the copyright holder changes his/her mind about their CC license. It says:

What if I change my mind?

Creative Commons licenses are non-revocable. This means that you cannot stop someone, who has obtained your work under a Creative Commons license, from using the work according to that license. You can stop distributing your work under a Creative Commons license at any time you wish; but this will not withdraw any copies of your work that already exist under a Creative Commons license from circulation, be they verbatim copies, copies included in collective works and/or adaptations of your work. So you need to think carefully when choosing a Creative Commons license to make sure that you are happy for people to be using your work consistent with the terms of the license, even if you later stop distributing your work.

The problem is that how do we know that an image that was taken, for example from Flickr, has changed its license from WP compatible ones into non-compatible ones? Usually in the image summary, only a link to the Flickr page that is given, but when we go to the source, it says that the image license is not equal. I've done some cleanup of non-compatible WP license from Flickr, and then I realized that this case could happen. Thanks for your help. — Indon (reply) — 14:21, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

On Wikimedia Commons, there is a process called "Flickr review", where images uploaded from Flickr are tagged (non-automatically) with a template asking an administrator to check that the image really is on Flickr under a compatible license (and not a clear copyvio on the part of the Flickr user). If it's good, the administrator changes the template, and after that changing the license on Flickr will do nothing. If it's bad, it gets listed for deletion. There is no similar process on the English Misplaced Pages. Andrew Levine 15:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

So, what should I do if I find an image in En WP from Flickr with non-compatible WP license? Should I replace with with unfree tags, which will put the image into CSD? — Indon (reply) — 16:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Andrew Levine 16:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Good, then I did the right thing. :-) , but how about if the uploader claim that the image was compatible when (s)he uploaded it? — Indon (reply) — 16:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

What I would do, personally, in that situation would be to try to contact the image's author and ask for confirmation that the license was changed. Then if he/she confirms, forward the e-mail to the OTRS system and upload the image to Commons along with an explanation that the license was given but later "revoked", a mention of the e-mail confirming the original license, and the OTRS#. Then gently remind the copyright owner that the license is irrevocable, and link to the license to show it. If on the other hand you get no reply after a week or so, or if the uploader says that it was always under the noncompatible license, tag it for deletion. That's just what I would do. Andrew Levine 19:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. — Indon (reply) — 10:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Image deleted!!

You have deleted pc john.jpg from the article P.C. John. I have already provided the image license. {{PD-India}}with the image Image:PCJohn.jpg. What more information do you need. --Nmj 02:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You need to say where the image came from, and who created it if that information is available. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Logos for Australian Government Departments

Is it okay to upload the logos of Australia Government Departments if the image is properly labelled as a Fair Use:logo.

Example: Image:Attorney aust gov.jpg

Large Millimeter Telescope

The use for this image is perfectly explained in the website indicated in the image page. However I was unable to decide what template is the best for it, so I just copy-pasted the license given by the authors. Can somebody help me to decide? Image:LMT GMT.jpg -- AlexCovarrubias 11:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

The license implicitly disallows the use of the photo for non-educational purposes. We thus can't use it. (It's also ambiguous whether it completely forbids commercial use or not, but either way it would be problematic, since properly identifying the copyright holder is disallowed in commercial use by the license.) Andrew Levine 14:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I just read the article and noticed the location of the satellite (atop a 4640-meter-high volcano, with access from a non-public road) and I think we could probably get by with a fair use claim, since this is unpracticeable for anyone in the general public to reproduce. However, the size of the image needs to be greatly reduced (ideally to roughly 300x200 pixels) and a {{fairusein}} and proper rationale need to be added. Andrew Levine 14:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Celebrity Question

hi. i saw an image of a celebrity in a website, and i found hid biography here in[REDACTED] but i would like to add an image to his biography, how can i do that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Barzini305 (talk • contribs) .

The image is most likely copyrighted by the photographer, their organization, or the website where it was found. It's unlikely you could use it on wikipedia, although if you have the exact url someone could take a look for you. - cohesion 18:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Free Image?

Reffering to: Image:1108635570AES-MCFLY-326.jpg "..where the image is unrepeatable, i.e. a free image could not be created to replace it." I don't fully understand what a "free image" is, could someone please explain? --Stacey 22:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Essentially, one released to the public domain or under a free license such as the GFDL or some versions of the Creative Commons license. --Yamla 22:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, right. So if there isn't one, what do I do (or say)? --Stacey 22:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

In the case of this particular image, you add {{db-author|Replaceable free image}} to the image so it can be speedily deleted. Alternatively, you can wait for a few days until it is removed for violating WP:FUC. --Yamla 22:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

So it's not allowed to be used? --Telescope 22:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

No, sorry. It fails the first criteria in WP:FUC. If you can find a freely licensed image or a public domain image, we could certainly use that. --Yamla 23:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Not really, we are trying to "crack down" on unnessesary use of unfree images (copyrighted images that don't allow unrestricted use and modification) since one of the big goals of the Misplaced Pages projects is to create free content. In this case the image is simply used to show what the person looks like. We can (hopefully) get hold of a free licensed photo of him from some public appearance that will do the same job, and as long as this is a posibility we should not go for the "easy way out" and use a unfree "filler" instead. --Sherool (talk) 00:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

What criteria are used to tag images for deletion under the First Fair Use criterion?

A copyrighted image I uploaded (Image:Zamira sydykova.jpg) has recently been tagged for deletion on the basis that it supposedly violates Misplaced Pages's First Fair Use criterion (i.e. that a free image could reasonably used in its place). What is the criteria for tagging images like this in this way? Given that it's well nigh impossible to find freely usable images of this person my assumption is that it was tagged purely because it is a copyrighted image being used under a Fair Use rationale. If I'm right then that doesn't make a lot of sense. For the tag to be meaningful it presupposes that some copyrighted images pass the "First Fair Use" test and others fail it, but I really can't see how this one fails that test. I get the impression that the editor added the tag purely because it is a copyrighted image. Can anyone shine some light on the procedure here? (PS Please reply to my talk page. Thanks!) -- Hux 09:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

If the image is used solely to depict a living person (and assuming the person is not in hiding or something), the image fails WP:FUC because a replacement free image could be created. That we have not yet found a freely licensed image is unimportant. A great many images currently fail this criteria and it will take quite some time for people to find and tag all (or a reasonable number) of them, but the work is ongoing. --Yamla 15:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Fraterntiy logos

there are several templates available for school, univeristy, team, etc logos. Can one be created for crest/shields/coat of arms of fraternities and sororities?

Many greek organizations currently use the {coatof arms} logos, but template has become deprecated. Or, what would be a good licensing template to use for these images?

It's more important for the copyright tag to describe the license status of the image than it is to categorize the image. The license tag should use one of the current tags explaining the license status. If you wanted to additionally categorize the images a separate tag, or a simple categorization would be appropriate. - cohesion 07:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair Use Rationale Question

Also asked here but I thought it might be better to ask here. I was just wondering if these: Image:The_Notorious_Notations.jpg, Image:Wonderlandtour05.jpg and Image:Therocketsummer_cd.jpg were satisfactory? Hopefully or I'll have to re-do about 16 *hates copyright details* --Stacey 16:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

It looks generally good to me though I prefer a specific mention of which article you are providing the rationale for. I've seen too many detailed fair-use rationales provided for one use and then people just go and add them to numerous other articles. These can be hard to track down. --Yamla 16:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

surrendering my own copyrights

I took a picture with my own camera and uploaded it to wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Ray_2006.JPG

i am surrendering any copyright to the image.

How do i edit this image t include the informatin that this is MY imgae that I am GIVING to the public domain?

You seem to have figured it out, it also helps to explicitly write that you took it rater than things like Photo Credit: Coagula Art Journal... --Sherool (talk) 21:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

venus image in logo

Hello,

I am presently designing a logo and would like to use an image of venus. I am interested in using one of 4 venus images and am not sure if they are subject to copyright. I could work with any one of them. Here are the one's I am interested in using:

Adolphe William Bouguereau (1825-1576) Aphrodite Alexandre Cabanel (1823-89) Birth of Venus Jean-August Dominique Ingres (Odalisque and slave) Titian (Tiziano Vecellio) (1490-1576) Venus of Urbino

Thank you, Renee

No problems, these are all public domain images. --Yamla 20:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

freedom of thought - freedom enterprise

i have not attached a copyright tag to my image freedom of thought Image:Freedomenterprise.JPG. how do i attach this tag: {{pd-self}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedomenterprise (talk • contribs)

Navigate to the image page and click the "Edit this page" tab. This will allow you to edit the image description. (The image itself will not be changed by this.) Replace the existing {{untagged}} template with {{pd-self}}.

Please note that Misplaced Pages is not a free media repository, so this image needs to be used somewhere. If you would like to make it freely available for public use, it would be best uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

specify creator?

I added an image that is about 120 years old that has an unknown photographer. I made the perhaps hasty assumption that this image would be out of copyright by now and tagged it as such, but I keep getting a message saying I need to specify the image's creator. I'm not sure how to do this.

how to tag when given permission

i have a band press shot, given to me by their management with permission to use it i couldn't really find an appropriate tag for that, what should i do? --Kholamuffin 06:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

What sort of permission did you get? Permission to release the image under a free license, or permission to use the image on Misplaced Pages? --Carnildo 09:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

both? i'm not entirely sure, but they knew what the photo was for when i asked for it, and are aware of how it could be used if put on this site Kholamuffin 09:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

I've recently uploaded a couple of images, but then I got a message saying that I haven't tagged it properly. I did however provide a link as to where the picture is uploaded, isn't that sufficient enough? I'm not too sure if I understand how it works here, but to post a picture you need to provide solid evidence that you have Copyright, and permission for an image to be uploaded? I need a little help on this.

Thank you,

Chris.

looking for, the authors who wrote the new tesatment chapters and how many each one wrote

This is a good question (how to tag when given permission). I am in the process of obtaining photos and the copyright owners wish to give permission to use the photo for a certain Misplaced Pages article, and any subsequent articles written about this person. I can't make heads nor tails of the help information re tagging and I need help. Thank you 70.120.79.129 15:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Please read Misplaced Pages:Requesting copyright permission, basicaly you need to get them to agree to release them under a suitable free lice (any free license will do, just make sure they understand what it implies). Just getting permission to use on Misplaced Pages is not enough I'm afraid --Sherool (talk) 18:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hockey Player Pictures

User:Chowbok has placed a disputed fair use tag on five images I uploaded. Now, he was correct on four of them as they were each copyrighted, but one of them (Image:RyanKesler.jpg) was obtained from a press release from the Philadelphia Flyers and was marked with a promo photo tag. (The other four images were replaced with other press release pictures, which are freely distrubuted by the teams.) I have added fair use rational on the talk pages of all five, but am I incorrectly marking these pictures or are they not fair use? Briememory 20:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:FUC states, essentially, that only freely licensed images are permitted to depict living people. This image has been correctly noted as being replaceable. That is, a free replacement image could be created that would serve the same purpose. Chowbok was correct to add the rfu tag to this image. --Yamla 20:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Are these images going to be deleted. If so, what can I do to prevent this? Briememory 20:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

You can add the disputed replacable tag thing (explaiend on the rfu tag I believe) and provide a rationale for why you believe it is not reasonably possible to create a free licensed photo that serve the same purpose. However if the purpose beeing served is simply to show what a person looks like it will be a though sell. --Sherool (talk) 21:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

By "tough sell," Sherool means that you basically have to demonstrate that it will be impossible for someone to ever take photos of these players at some point in the foreseeable future. Rather than debating the point on Misplaced Pages, I suggest taking a camera to a Flyers game and getting seats with a good view of the rink. Andrew Levine 21:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:AutoMat1930.jpg

This is an image of an AutoMat built in 1930 in order to illustrate the automat article. What copyright tag should I use? Thank you.Disco79 15:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Please let me know if the tag I proposed on my talk page User_talk:Disco79 is correctly done. Thank you. Disco79 02:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

The tag should be OK, but please remove it from your talk page since that template adds the pages on which it's placed to a category for fair use images.

Under your rationale, you can strengthen the case for fair use by pointing out that the photograph illustrates a historical situation that no longer exists, and that it will therefore not be possible to create a free image illustrating the same thing.

However, for a photo that old with no accompanying copyright notice or for which the copyright registration has not been renewed, there's a good chance it's actually public domain. See . Check the photo credits in your source publication. If appropriate, you can then use {{PD-US}} with accompanying text explaining why it applies. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Nicolelinkletter2.jpg.jpg

User:Hotwiki has uploaded this image whose details are just blatantly false.... this is obviously not a screenshot, and if it came from upn.com, there's no way that UPN has "irrevocably released all rights to it". I'm already having a problem with this user adding false sources that don't contain the info supposed to be sourced, such as on Lisa D'Amato, so I wish someone else would weigh in here. wikipediatrix 15:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I removed the "no rights" template since there was not even an attempt to justify it. Strictly speaking it would probably qualify for speedy deletion for having a "clearly invalid fair-use tag" (I7), however I settled for just tagging it as "replacable fair use" (still I7, but with a 7 day "delay"). The photo is just used to show what the person looks like, any photo of her can do that job, and it's not outside the realm of posibility that someone can take a free licensed photo of her. --Sherool (talk) 18:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The user should be warned for vandalism. See #User keeps uploading images with wrong tags, please. --Kjoonlee 18:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Uh, warning for vandalism should be reserved for when a user keeps doing it after receiving notices, not on the first try. I posted a notice anyway, though. --Kjoonlee 19:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Sparty mascot1.jpg and Image:Izzone arial.jpg

These images have been added in the last two days, Image:Sparty mascot1.jpg and Image:Izzone arial.jpg. Both come from a Michigan State University website. As MSU owns the copyright, are these images allowable? Are they fair use? Thanks. LarryQ 18:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

they bboth fail Misplaced Pages:Fair_use_criteria part so should not be used.Geni 01:36, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, so what do I do? I do not upload them. Does an admin need to delete them? LarryQ 02:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

List them at WP:CV. See the Instructions section. TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Photo Related

I have posted ELLSWORTH1 picture on the biography of Brad Ellsworth. This picture was found from his campaign website. How do I cite it?

the image is protected by copyright so cannot be used on wikipedia.Geni 01:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Matthias Colour 0610.jpg

Hi,

A bit puzzled as to why the Image that I included on Matthias Schmlez profile was deleted. I did included indication of where the photo came from: the authors website www.the-millionairemaker.com and of course I have permission to include his photo on his profile. It is self publishing with free usage. Many thanks,--Sandra Pires 13:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Freewebphoto

Freewebphoto has been listed as public domain image resources. However, when I read the terms of image usage here: , it says: the image is not free for commercial usage and you CANNOT REDISTRIBUTE our images as part of an online resource site or by any offline means. So why it is listed as PD image resources? Thanks. — Indon (reply) — 14:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Most likely because we have not been keeping a close enough eye on that page. There seem to be no review process to list stuff there, I've found several unfree and dubious sites on the list... --Sherool (talk) 16:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It means that all images uploaded into WP from freewebphoto should be deleted, isn't it? — Indon (reply) — 16:20, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Most likely, at least if they are claimed to be PD just for beeing taken from that site. A quick search only turned up 6 though, all mis-tagged as GFDL and uploaded by the same user. --Sherool (talk) 16:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Tagging my Eldar Bonesinger picture.

I am having trouble tagging my Bonesinger picture. Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jinny Jinster (talk • contribs) 18:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

You seem to have figured out out on your own :) --Sherool (talk) 06:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

source information on logos

Orphanbot's been bugging to put source information on logos recently, so I am wondering - should logos even need sources? I don't understand legal stuff very much, but it seems to me that it would be obvious that the logo belongs to the organization represented by the logo.

What should I put for the source on logos? Here are examples of two different ways I've handled it recently.

• Image:'now'_Broadband_TV_Logo.png
• Image:160x120_twc_logo05.png

For the second image listed, the place I acquired the image from was actually wikipedia. I was just fixing it up so it would comply with some image formatting policy or guidline.

Could someone please help me with this? Jecowa 08:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

You're right. The critical information is simply the logo's identity and name of its owner. Some people want to see a url every image (or an explanation of its re-creation) though, so whenever you have that information, you might as well provide it.

Your images are fine. It looks as though a new user registered, tagged 175 images as no source, and left. If anyone has time, please help take a look through their their contributions, as I think there's some damage to be undone. ×Meegs 09:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

(now finished) ×Meegs 11:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Jecowa 02:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Confused about copyright on photographs

Say you take a family photo, and a magazine just happens to lie face up on a table. Who own the copyright of the resulting image? What if you ignored the family (cut them away with MS Paint or some such) so that you end up with the Magazine cover only, who has the copyright now? I'm honestly not sure.

Assuming the magazine is of a Marvel comic, and that marvel has a photograph of the same front cover on their homepage. What legal difference is there to uploading your image, or Marvel's image to Misplaced Pages - assuming you release whatever copyrights your holding? Surly Marvel retains all copyright for their magazine cover?

The reason I'm raising this issue is because a number of promotional images are being removed from Misplaced Pages due to fair use issues, with the argument that if the photo is replaced by a photo taken by a wikipedian it is somehow more 'fair use' (or so I understand it). What I'm trying to argue is that it makes no/little legal difference if you take a photograph of Logitech mouse and release your copyright, or Logitech take a photo of said mouse - in both cases Logitech "owns" the image.

Bottom line, if an Image of a commercial product is deleted because the company that manufactured the product owns the copyright - it is no use replacing it with a user photographed one since the same entity holds copyright in both cases. (Note that is the manufacturer is not the source of the image, i.e. it came from some other website, then - yes - it makes a difference)--Anss123 20:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

There is a substantial difference between taking a picture of a magazine cover and pretending that a copyright opportunity has been created, and taking a picture of a computer mouse. Derivative work issues are tricky, and we will just keep trying to do our best to make reasonable decisions. If you are uncomfortable asserting sole possession of copyright on photographs that you take of your computer peripherals, I can assure you that there are plenty of other Wikipedians who have no such concern and will respond to requests to provide them. Jkelly 20:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Image: PTFI Board

Please delete my image upload Image:PTFI Board.jpg It will not be used and is not a good image. Thanks. Guest818 05:28, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. You can use the {{db-author}} tag for this kind of thing in the future. ×Meegs 06:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Selecting appropriate Tag

I have found a picture i want to use through google images.

I have stated where i have downloaded it from, and also the company is copyrighted. Is this enough or do i need to do more, btw the website is in polish, so don't understand it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Navjitbhamra (talk • contribs) 2006 November 11 10:10 UTC.

If there is no evidence that an image is available under a free license, it can only be used if it complies with our fair use policy. The first criterion of the policy says that unfree images may only be used where it is not possible to create a free alternative. Since Ronski Speed is alive and available for photographs, we can not use Image:Ronski-speed.jpg, Image:Ronski.jpg, or Image:Ronski2.jpg. ×Meegs 11:01, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Garment.jpg

on 11/11/06 I have received permission from the copyright holder to use this image without attribution or copyright notice. I have attempted to update the copyright info. Duke53 | 19:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm the copyright holder, and only want to grant permission to Misplaced Pages for non-commercial/educational use...

How do I do and indicate this? I may want to publish with this picture at a later date, so only want to grant this specific site specifically non-commercial use of this photograph. Not sure that Common License does so, since it SEEMS to allow distribution to others for non-commercial purposes, which is a right I do NOT want to give up on this image.

THANKS!

--JT 21:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Seems the automated system has informed me that I will not be allowed to post the picture and give Misplaced Pages permission unless I give EVERYONE permission, for commercial or non-commercial use. If that's true, then so be it, and screw you, Misplaced Pages. I am not giving away my work to everyone and anyone in exchange for the "privilege" of letting people here on Misplaced Pages see these rare and beautiful birds. What's up with this "socialist" perspective on my copyrighted material? Or did I misunderstand somehow? --JT 21:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, we cannot accept the image. I understand that you are trying to contribute in good faith and we appreciate that. However, your restrictions are too strict for our use. Please do not upload the image. Thanks. --Yamla 21:27, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, for more information about our copyright perspctive, which I wouldn't consider socialist, check out the article on Free content, and the Free Culture movement. Thanks again for contributing, and I hope you do decide to stay. - cohesion 21:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Using a license like CC-by-sa or GNU FDL does not deprive you from using the image commercially at a later point. The share-alike clause makes it unusable for most commercial publisers. The GNU FDL license is a strong copyright poison, using a Misplaced Pages derived image in a printed book would make the whole book free content. This is something no publishers wants. The images will still maintain part of their commercial value. (You wanted to publish them on Misplaced Pages anyway, so you can not expect the full commercial value.) In short, you are not making them public domain --Petri Krohn 22:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. It seems that you see the world as divided between free or "non-commercial" as in free beer and commercial. We at[REDACTED] see the world as divided between free as in freedom and non-free or "commercial". The differense is not great, but the new distinction was the great mental leap (by Richard Stallman) that enabled the free software and open source movements. Both free and non-free coexist, and the free does not prevent the non-free from making money from their copyright. --Petri Krohn 22:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

When I uploaded an image, I didn't select an option from the copyright menu, and now I can't seem to do it after it's uploaded! How do I do it?

My problem is in the title. I don't think it can be done in the same way after the image has been uploaded. I know what one it should've been, but I can't add one on now after it. What should I do? I've tried to see (then add) the image copyright tags, but it's different there, so I don't know what one to put and it's taking the piss! Can someone please tell me what to do. Thanks.

Mazito - Saturday, 11 November, 2006; 21:45

how do I delite my picture its concered red flaged or can you do it from their .

Go to the image page and click on the Edit link. (You will be editing the image description, but will not see the image itself.) Then add an appropriate template from WP:ICT. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

copyright

I have just uploaded two images to the Literature Circles article that I have been diligently adding to for over a week for a graduate assignment as part of a course. I obtained both images-- 15448-05dg and ITF099061 from Fotosearch.com as part of their FREE image gallery. I have listed all the information required-- URL address, date obtained, author etc. and THINK that I have correctly placed the tag Template:Copyrightfreeuse in this section. I don't want any unpleasant surprises from Misplaced Pages, telling me that the images are not properly documented. I don't see where else I need to document anything. Please let me know. I don't want these images removed. Thanks, Deborah Cox

The URL you give needs to be that of the page where you found the image, not just the main page of the website where you located it. For Image:ITF099061.jpg that'd be here: . The image is from It Stock Free whose license page is here: Please note the licensing terms under "Comp Use". There is a 60-day limit, and the license is not transferable -- in other words, you can't assign to Misplaced Pages (or through Misplaced Pages, to anyone else) the right to use it. The "Permitted Uses" is too restrictive, and several terms of the "Prohibited Uses" apply. This is a non-free license, and we may not use the image. Image:ITF099061.jpg , from Creatas Photos, is similarly encumbered.

So I'm afraid they will have to go. But I note that they really add no substantive information to the article, since they are stock photos and not pictures of an actual literature circle at all. A far better alternative would be for you to take some pictures of one in progress yourself, and license them as free content. Failing that, check out the Commons for suitable material. (The article, incidentally, should be named Literature circle, without the plural and so capitalized, to conform to Misplaced Pages's Manual of Style. Your section names should be similarly capitalized.) TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

about fair use of an image

I put a fair use tag on this Image:Gambari.jpg . A bot has asked me to explain the rationale for its fair use. But isn't the tag obvious? The image illustrates the person in question, no free equivalent is known, the image is low quality (5kb). Is there something else I should do. DDD DDD 09:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages's fair use policy will only allow us to use an unfree copyrighted image if it is not possible to create a free alternative. This does not appear to be the case with Ibrahim Gambari, so we are going to have to hold out for a free version. Alternately, you could write to Gambari's office and request an image under a free license. ×Meegs 09:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

But wouldn't writing and asking for permission violate the "No original research" part of the five pillars? Jenolen 21:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

No, "no original research" means you don't make something up. Information has to be based on reliable sources, which has nothing to do with acquiring an existing photograph with a known source under a free license. howcheng {chat} 23:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyright on trailers?

Do we have any tags reflecting this? And do people here agree with this analysis? If this is indeed true, we could replace a lot of fair-use photos of dead actors. —Chowbok ☠

Not a spesific tag for it, though I think {{PD-US}} cover it even if the text of the template doesn't say so explicitly. Works published before March 1 1989 in the US without a copyright notice is in the public domain iff the following conditions are all true:

1. The work was not publihed without the authorization by the copyright holder.
2. The absense of a copyright notice did not violate a written agreemenet between the publisher and the copyright holder.
3. The copyright notice was not simply missing from a small number of the total released copies of the work.
4. If published between January 1 1978 and March 1 1989 no effort was made to add missing copyright notices or register the copyright within 5 years of publication.

If you can prove a work pass all the above tests it's in the public domain. If not the regular life + 70 rule apply. For individual photographs it would probably be insanely hard, though for movies and trailers these things should be doable to trace down so I'm inclined to believe them. See also Category:Public domain films, screencaps from things like Plan 9 from outer space, Night of the Living Dead etc. are fair game. --Sherool (talk) 19:48, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Also works published between 1923 and 1963 with a copyright notice is in the public domain iff the copyright registration was not renewed within 28 years (wich seems to be the rationale used by that website you linked). If the copyright was renewed in this period it will last for 95 years since the original publication. --Sherool (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Tag on my photo?

I uploaded a photo recently but I don't know what tag to put. I took the photo using my digital camera, what is the most appropiate thing to do?Toosmart215 01:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Since Misplaced Pages is all about free content, the best thing to do is to release it under a free license, such as the GFDL, one of the appropriate Creative Commons licenses, a simple grant of permission to use for any purpose, or the public domain. Once you decide which to use, you should be able to find the relevant tag at WP:ICT. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I see that by now you've done that. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Removing an uploaded image

How can I remove the uploaded image of the internationalized shogi set? ElephantChess 06:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)ElephantChess

I have deleted the image "Internationalized shogi.jpg" for you. Please let me know if this was not what you were asking for. ×Meegs 09:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

copyright question and reducing question about two images

• Image: IStock_000000829176Smalla.jpg
• Image: IStock_000001735714Smallb.jpg

I've been trying to upload two images from IStockphoto.com that I paid for and that I have permission to use; however, they keep getting deleted! I think that I have been stating the copyright tag correctly but the directions are confusing and rather vague. I have included both links to the images. Please help! I don't want them deleted again. Also, I need help reducing them to a smaller size to fit on the page. I typed "thumb" to do this and also typed in smaller pixel sizes, but neither seems to work. Thanks deborah cox 14:51, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I've looked over istockphoto's license, and I'm afraid it is not compatible with Misplaced Pages because it places tight restrictions on redistribution and commercial use. Outside of a few narrow cases where we allow unfree copyrighted images under our fair use policy, all images in the project need to permit (just about) all manner of replication and republication by anyone, for any purpose. ×Meegs 16:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not a tag expert on Misplaced Pages but I do use iStockPhoto a lot. Their terms do not give you the right to upload their photos here. In fact it's strictly forbidden. You paid to use the photo in your own works but it clearly states that you may not redistribute the photo. You do not own the copyright to the image - just the right to use it in your own works. Fife Club 16:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:PNS_1925_Cardinal.png

I would like help in the appropriate copyright tag for Image:PNS 1925 Cardinal.png. It is a scan of a 1925 college yearbook cover, uploaded for an article on that college. I admit that the article Plattsburgh Normal School will survive with out the image but I thought it was a helpful image.

I would also like to ask a related question while I'm here. I now have two images of the Plattsburgh Normal School building which I have not uploaded yet. One is an actual photograph circa 1905 and although it's nice, it's pretty small. Another is what appears to be either an good illustration or a painting on a photo, taken from a post card. This image may not be a straight photo but it is much better as an illustration of the school because it is at a better angle, in color, closer, and larger. I do not know the year the post card was printed but it has to be from before 1929 at the latest, the year which the structure burned down. Either or both of these images would be excellent as an encyclopedic illustration of the article subject - the school. Can anybody point me in the right direction for the correct copyright tags for these images so I can get them right the first time. Thanks. --Fife Club 16:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The scan of the 1925 yearbook is likely only in the public domain if the book was published without a copyright notice. You don't have access to the 1922 yearbook, do you? It is in the PD no matter what.

The ~1905 building photo is PD if it was published before 1923, or if the photographer retained its copyright and has been dead for more than 70 years. You said that you do not know how long before 1929 the post card was issued, so we can only safely assume that it is PD if it was published without a copyright notice. (Here is a useful table of these things, by the way)

In the above cases, the tags to consider are {{PD-pre-1923}}, {{PD-old-70}}, and for works published without copyright notice, {{PD-US}}. It's best to explicitly write-out the reason you beleive the work is in the public domain in addition to applying the correct the copyright template. ×Meegs 17:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image restriction - policy need to be revised.

The policy of restricting the fair use images is a big setback for wikipedia. The policy been intepreted as if the object or person exists then its picture can be taken and hence the image cannot be used and need to be deleted. Who guarantees that the image of the said object will be clicked by someone. If no one takes the picture and above all did not uploads it into[REDACTED] commons,[REDACTED] articles will go without good images to be used in articles. Also if it is not possible to be uploaded into wikipedia, provision need to be made for this images to be shown in[REDACTED] articles by linking it with the exact location where the image is present with the acknoledgement.

Thank you Chanakyathegreat 16:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The goal of the project is to build a free content encyclopedia that is useable anywhere, by anyone, forever. The fair use exception to copyright exists only in the United States, and its interpretation may not stay the same forever. Using unfree images of subjects that are available for photography, even temporarily, greatly hurts our chances of acquiring new freely licensed alternatives. ×Meegs 17:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Note also that it is possible to link to websites hosting relevant pictures, so long as those sites comply with copyright (see Misplaced Pages:External links). ×Meegs 18:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of the passionate defense of Admin and Founders, this policy IS hurting the quality of images and even the existence of images for this Encyclopedia. Why anyone would insist that someone give away ALL rights, commercial and otherwise, to their valuable property, is beyond me. Would you be willing to give up ALL rights to your paycheck because you were willing to donate 10 percent to a charity this week? Same concept, which is why Misplaced Pages will do without my photos. Time for you guys to wake up and appreciate the generosity without demanding that we give everything away just because YOU believe in doing so. --JT 04:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

That's very funny, and it's in the wrong section as well. --Kjoonlee 05:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Contibuting to Misplaced Pages does not make your images public domain (as you seem to assume). -- Petri Krohn 23:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

You don't seem to have a problem that Misplaced Pages asks that writers give up the same rights; why are photos different? —Chowbok ☠ 02:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Choosing suitable copyright tag for coat of arms.

Hi there, I've uploaded these two Republic of Macedonia coat of arms Image:Strumica.jpg and Image:Gostivar.jpg with the coatofarms tag. However the copyright tag is being shown as deprecated or obsolete. Other pages with similar coat of arms images have this tag attached without problems. They were found on websites about the cities and I'm unsure on how to proceed, any assistance would be appreciated. Yagonnadieclown 22:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The coat of arms tag doesn't explain the copyright status of the image, it's just there for categorization. Do you know the copyright status? For example, who created the image, how is it licensed? If you get these details or provide the source website where you located the images we can help you more. - cohesion 18:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can remember they were from the municipality sites of both cities: http://www.strumica.gov.mk/ and http://www.gostivari.gov.mk/mac/index.asp. Yagonnadieclown 21:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't speak that language, but the fact that is was created by a municipality doesn't really effect it's license status. The city can still hold copyright. You might make a fair use claim though, I would check out out fair use criteria - cohesion 05:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Copyright for image already on wikipedia.

If an image is already present on the Bulgarian language[REDACTED] with a PD tag . What sort of tag would be suitable to use if I want to upload it onto the English language equivalent? I uploaded the image a while back as Image:Sv_georgi_kavadarci.jpg with a link to the Bulgarian page, but it was deleted due to insufficient copyright information, any help would be appreciated. Yagonnadieclown 22:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

This image is a great example of why you need to be careful when copying images from one Misplaced Pages to another. The source website mentioned on bg.wikipedia has a copyright statement of "Copyright © 1996-2000 Macedonia.org, All Rights Reserved", so the image is not really in the public domain. --Carnildo 03:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I assume if the tag is incorrect and the image is actually copyrighted and not public domain then the image will be removed? Yagonnadieclown 21:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Permission

I have received permission of the photographer to upload a picture a to this page: Davana Medina, but I do not know the exact tagging that i am supposed to use. could you help.Angel,Isaac 05:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

What sort of permission did you get? Did you get permission to use the image under a free license, or did you get permission to use the image on Misplaced Pages? --Carnildo 05:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Image tagged by OrphanBot on 13/11/2006

I would like to enquire about the tagging of Image:Img comic01.jpg as not specifying the source and creator. The source URL has been provided and the creator of the image is not stated at the source. As such, the creator has been denoted as "unknown, not stated in source". It is not through editor's fault that information on the creator has been omitted, since said information is nonexistent at the source.

I await further clarification. Please contact me on my Talk page regarding this matter ASAP.

Thank you. --Warp L. Obscura 12:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply on talk page - cohesion 18:25, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

What's missing? Help, please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Mmzultimatecopyx.png What's missing in this page? It was removed from the Copy X article. --Delf 13:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I have written permission to reproduce a photograph of the JesseImage (for the Misplaced Pages Tree of Jesse page)I had uploaded a copy some time ago and you asked for copyright permission. I have this under the Malcolm Low GNU Free Documentaion how do I reproduce the image on the Internet page of which I am a contributor? Malcolm Low.

The image needs to include it's source, which is where the image came from, and it's copyright status as a minimum. If it is copyrighted and you want to claim fair use see the fair use criteria and also include a fair use rationale in the image description page. - cohesion 18:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know what license to use

I uploaded this image this morning, but I wasn't sure what license to tag it with so I checked that I had the permission of the author to use it, but now the image is tagged for deletion. I'd like to keep it and after following the accompanying instructions on what to do in order to keep I'm still unsure as to what license would be appropriate for it. I could use some help, please. --Clay

Given that the image page claims the map is from 1895, the copyright will have expired, placing it in the public domain. If you are sure the map was published prior to 1923, use {{PD-US}}. --Yamla 21:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

According to the website, the atlas the map came from was copyright 1895, so yes, it was published prior to 1923. Thank you for your assistance.--Clay

About "non-commercial or educational use of the file is allowed"

I've just added a picture of twin's breastfeeding to Breastfeeding article under "Tandem, extended, and shared breastfeeding" title, and found out that I can't ask that only non-commercial or educational use of the file will be allowed. Since this is me there with my twins, I really don't want to find myself one day on a commercial item, but on the other hand wish to show mothers of twins who read Misplaced Pages that breastfeeding twins is possible. I wonder if there any solution for this delicate problem. If you insist on allowing anyone to use pictures from Misplaced Pages for any purpose, even commercial, so then I might have to ask you to delete this picture.

I will be happy to read your comment here. (Please excuse any spelling or grammar mistakes. English is not my native language). Tamarah 23:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

If you're not comfortable allowing commercial and derivative use of your work, then your licensing conditions are too restrictive for this project. The image has already been sorted into our deletion queue. Jkelly 23:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems you have misunderstood the GNU FDL license. It is the modern equivalent to "non-commercial or educational". The license effectively prevents anyone from selling rights to the image. In practice "commercial" means that the image can be displayed on a ad-supported website or "sold" on a CD-ROM. -- Petri Krohn 23:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. The requirement of "non-commercial or educational" would be appropriate, if you were broadcasting your image on a non-commercial educational radio station, as defined in the U.S. by the FCC. This is the Internet. Here the GNU FDL license is accepted as the closest thing to "non-commercial educational". -- Petri Krohn 23:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that you are overstating this. While the GFDL is inconvenient for a lot of commercial use, the "closest thing" to a non-commercial use license would surely be CC-BY-NC, which is explicitly designed to be exactly that. Jkelly 23:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

D'Angelo sample

I uploaded a short sample of the D'Angelo song, "Brown Sugar", and i tagged it accordingly but it was still tagged by the Ophanbot for deletion. Did I do something wrong? thanks in advance.--Majik43 23:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

As the tag OrphanBot put on the image description page says, you need to specify who the creator and copyright holder are. You do this by going to the image description page and clicking on the "edit this page" link. --Carnildo 04:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Example.jpg.

I need to delete the following image please

9d0e.jpg‎

Also whats the best tutorial link for posting images? I seem to be confused.

--Hstisgod 07:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I've deleted the image for you. Help:Images and other uploaded files explains the technical side of how to incorporate images into articles, and you can questions at Misplaced Pages:Help desk. You should also take a look at Misplaced Pages:Image use policy, which gives an overview of the project's image policies, including ones concerning copyright. If you have any questions about policy or copyright, come back here. ×Meegs 15:43, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Herm.jpg

Could you help me to check if I provided all needed informations by this picture - Image:Herm.jpg? I really want to help Misplaced Pages but I need help badly by uploading pictures. So I decided to give this picure for you to check and after that, if everything'll be alright I'll put it in an article about Hermione. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Varda (talk • contribs) .

You are making a claim about fair use, please take a look at the fair use criteria to make sure that all of them apply in the specific instance where you will be using the image. You then need to include a fair use rationale on the image page. Before the rationale is made and the image is used in any article it's not possible to say for sure whether it can be kept, but I'm not that optimistic. A good rule of thumb from the criteria "As a quick test, ask yourself: "Can this image be replaced by a different one, while still having the same effect?" If the answer is yes, then the image probably doesn't meet the criteria above and should not be used." Also, claimed fair use images that are not used in an article will be deleted. - cohesion 09:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! I've checked it all and I think that everything is okay. So you think I can put it in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varda (talk • contribs) 12:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

You wrote: I also checked it and I saw that Screenshots are qualified as a free-use material. Where did you check? What do you mean by "free-use material"? -- Petri Krohn 12:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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