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tendentious

Please read wp:tenditious, having had an RFC closed and then (virtually straight away) reopening the same one differently worded is not going to end well.Slatersteven (talk) 18:48, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

You might also want to read wp:point, please stop this now.Slatersteven (talk) 19:02, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

I have re-closed that section on WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Per the previous warning by User:GRuban, I'm telling you now that if you continue disrupting that page, you will be blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

I know it's annoying, but the New York Times thing really isn't helping get the DM block removed

I get angry at the way the debate around the DM is so illogical and filled with prejudice as well, but the New York Times thing isn't helping, and may get you banned. Best take a chill pill. Even if the vote goes against unblocking the DM we've put a pretty good peg in the ground for having another debate on this in six months which we have every chance of winning. Keep your powder dry for that. FOARP (talk) 20:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Thatnk you for the feedback FOARP. This is NOT about the Daily Mail. This is only about the NYT. The DM is a whole separate issue for me.

special counsel investigation

Based on your comments at Talk:Special Counsel investigation (2017–2019), it appears to me that you are misinformed on the issue. You wrote:

It began with a reaction by Democratic politicians and supporters to the loss of the White House (and political power) through the defeat of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2016 Presidential race. A leaked political dossier was prepared by a foreign former intelligence officer, Christopher Steele for Fusion GPS and the Hillary Clinton campaign. Information in the dossier was later discredited by testimony provided by Steele in a subsequent civil case in Great Britain.

Here is some information that will hopefully change your outlook on this matter:

• On March 20, 2017, FBI director James Comey first publicly confirmed the existence of an FBI investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials.

• That FBI investigation, which began in July 2016, was not started because of the Steele dossier, but because in May 2016 George Papadopoulos' had talked about information of Russia having hacked Democratic Party emails around two months before the July 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak. This was confirmed in the Nunes memo by staff of U.S. Representative Devin Nunes.

• On March 30, 2017, Trump calls the FBI investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials a "witch hunt" and due to the Democrats loss of the White House.

• This is the same rationale you are advocating?

• On May 9, 2017, Trump fired James Comey via a letter. The letter stated Trump took the advice of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein criticized Comey for Comey's handling of the conclusion of the FBI investigation into the Hillary Clinton email controversy. No mention was made of the FBI investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials.

• On May 10, 2017, Trump met Russian officials in the White House and said: "I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job ... I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off ... I’m not under investigation."

• On May 11, 2017, Trump said in a videoed interview: "... regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey ... in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story."

• Trump's firing of Comey meant he had dismissed the man leading an investigation into Trump's associates. There was a debate on whether this was a constitutional crisis.

• Trump was in a position to nominate a new FBI director, essentially the man to continue the investigation into Trump's associates, and he did eventually nominate Christopher A. Wray.

• National Public Radio: The appointment of Mueller — who is widely respected on both sides of the aisle -- comes after growing outcry, mostly from Democrats, amid fallout of President Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey last week.

Hope this information will serve you well. starship.paint ~ KO 02:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

The Steele pee-pee dossier was at first a series of memos that he provided to Fusion GPS at the request of the DNC. Those memos were initially created starting in April of 2016. That information in the dossier was known to CIA Director Brennan who put a task force including FBI agents, together to investigate the allegations. As the Mueller investigation concluded after the review of all classified and unclassified information on this topic and revealed that absolutely no American engaged in any kind of conspiracy with Russians, we’re currently left without an official reason, other than the dossier, for why ANY investigation of all of the investigations began. This is one of the reasons why we’re hearing current calls for yet another Special Prosecutor as it appears that several investigations were initiated by the Federal Government, including the use of wire-tapping a Preaidential Campaign, all on the basis of Oppo-Research. To ignore this significant, and quite scary, revelation made by the conclusion of the Mueller Inveatigation would be dingenuous regarding the truth of what happened. Wcmcdade (talk) 00:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I can see you haven't carefully read the Trump–Russia dossier article or studied the RS used. You really need to do that, because your ignorance is showing. You're parroting the Trump/GOP/Putin party line propaganda found on Fox News, Daily Caller, Breitbart, and other unreliable sources. Read the article and its sources and find out what really happened. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 04:41, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Time and my new article will vindicate me. The article is on my subpage. This all actually started with the creation of the private email server and has most recently ended with the Mueller report, but will ultimately end (as I’ve said for over a year) with the prosecution of Deep State partisans like McCabe, Comey and Brennan. Time will continue to add to the veracity of this claim as more information is revealed. Not only did I work at DOJ, I have only ever belonged to the Democratic Party and get most of my news from direct sources, not secondary such as CNN or Fox. Wcmcdade (talk) 05:04, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Time will tell. Since Misplaced Pages is, by definition and rules, always "behind the curve", we'll have to wait until the preponderance of RS paint this picture before we can tell it here, so don't try to push this view in articles or on talk pages. That will only get you in trouble. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 05:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Since you don't seem to understand why it was necessary, appropriate, and legal to start the Trump-Russia investigation, here's the background. Please study it and get back to me (ping). -- BullRangifer (talk) 16:49, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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