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Table of conference dates and locations

I don't see how the deleted table of conference dates and locations () differs significantly from similar tables in other articles, for example American Society for Mass Spectrometry, Solvay Conference, European Conference on Computational Biology, Nobel Conference, ISSPIC, etc. The elements of WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTWEBHOST do not seem to be applicable here. --Kkmurray (talk) 19:58, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

• It's totally uninteresting and unencyclopedic information. This kind of fluff belongs on the website of the organization itself. As for the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, those lists should be removed from those articles, too. Perhaps I'll find time in the next few days to do that, but there's WP:NODEADLINE, of course. --Randykitty (talk) 22:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Let's assume that you have made those edits and I have reverted them based on what I see as WP:ITSCRUFT/WP:UNENCYCLOPEDIC arguments. Is there any point in further discussion here or are we at an impasse? --Kkmurray (talk) 18:15, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

We're not talking WP:AFD here. --Randykitty (talk) 15:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

RfC about tables of conference dates and locations

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Are tables or lists of conference dates and locations acceptable content for articles about those conferences or the associated societies? --Kkmurray (talk) 17:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

• Yes they are, IF there are independent reliable sources about those meetings. If it's just a listing on where a society has held their a nnual meetings, it's directory stuff that belongs on the organizations own website, but not in an encyclopedia. --Randykitty (talk) 18:22, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

  This reference tabulates the first 15 meetings from 1958 through 2000: doi:10.1002/jms.131. This reference which was deleted describes the 19th meeting in 2012: doi:10.5702/massspectrometry.K0005. These references describe the meetings through 2009: doi:10.1016/B978-0-08-043848-1.00031-6 and doi:10.1016/B978-0-08-043848-1.00032-8. In addition, the meeting is typically reviewed by one or more of the mass spectrometry journals and published as a correspondence. --Kkmurray (talk) 20:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

  • You're seriously going to tell me that a list of years and cities is interesting information? If all that can be said is that the meeting took place in Someplace, Somewhere, that's beyond boring. --Randykitty (talk) 20:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

• No, not even if there are sources attesting to the meetings' existence. If something significant happened in one of those meetings, it should be covered in prose. —⁠烏⁠Γ  │ 04:40, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

• I agree with that, this is actually what I meant to say above, bu you just said it better. Just sources that a meeting exists are not enough. --Randykitty (talk) 07:44, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Would a table of annual events be appropriate if used to support appropriately referenced prose? --Kkmurray (talk) 16:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

• Have a look at Behavior Genetics Association. They have an annual meeting, too. Abstracts of every meeting are published in Behavior Genetics, so there are RS for every meeting, a situation not unlike what we have here. Yet only the 1995 AM is mentioned in the text, as that was the only meeting where something happened that made a lot of noise outside the association. And even though it could perhaps be argued that being a president of this society would make somebody meet WP:PROF, only the most notable presidents are listed. Nor are there lists of recipients of the different awards given by this group. All that info can be found on the association's own website and that is where it belongs. --Randykitty (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Are you revising your original statement – yes if reliable sources exist – to no table or list of conference dates and locations or other annual conference information under any circumstances regardless of the existence of reliable sources and supporting prose? If not, under what conditions would a table containing year, location, and potentially other notable information be appropriate? --Kkmurray (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

• Nah, like Randykitty said, WP:NOTADIRECTORY. --NikkeKatski (talk) 15:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

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