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GaloBot 4 male bios

Hi, thanks so much for developing this! As discussed at the WiR talk page, here are a few names of men who have come up in the bot results. It's not a large number, so won't be a big deal if the bot can't be refined to leave them out without leaving the drafts we want out too. There was actually one biography of a man I got interested in, and worked on the draft, so that ended up being a plus! RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

• Draft:Porter Ray
• Draft:Utpal Khot
• Draft:Thomas Tobias
• Draft:Peregrine Fellowes
• Draft:Syed Umrao Ali Shah Jilani
• Draft:John Ferrar (merchant)
• Draft:Nick Paley
• Draft:Daniel Morgan Taylor
• Draft:Brian Rosenworcel
• Draft:Pascal Lagesse
• Draft:Lloyd Dulany Addison
• Draft:Vernon Hill (flautist)
• Draft:George Katsimbalis
• Draft:Benjamin Davis (American-Russian writer)
• Draft:George Le Cronier

RebeccaGreen Thanks for providing the list. Looking through, there are some ways to exclude male biographies (e.g. exclude if the article has "he was") but that would also cause false negatives, so I think any changes to reduce the amount of male biographies in the report would be more effort than worth it. Galobtter (pingó mió) 00:58, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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A cup of tea for you!

Just wanted to re-ping you on whether you'd like to collaborate on an RFA nom. If so, just email me GAB 14:27, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

@GeneralizationsAreBad: Emailed! Galobtter (pingó mió) 02:52, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		Just saw Template:Ds/aware and it's such a great improvement that I'm surprised no one had thought of it before! Thanks for the contribution! Wug·a·po·des​ 23:31, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Looking higher up, it seems this is a joint effort with Atsme so this is for you too! Thanks as well Wug·a·po·des​ 23:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Wugapodes, Atsme proposed the general idea, and Awilley the more specific form with {{Ds/aware}}, but I did do the technical implementation :) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:19, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Request to reconsider topic ban on me with regard to the article on Toby Young

Hello Galobtter; this is in response to your decision to ban me from editing the Toby Young article. You said I could come here in the first instance, and so I'm doing so. I'd like you to think again about the ban and to consider the following points. I'm not very good at finding and linking to things on here, but I believe you'll find, if you are able to click back around the controversy over the relevant sentence, that what I say below is true.

1. All my edits to the relevant sentence were made with reference to Misplaced Pages's policy on maintaining a neutral point of view. I consistently tried to change the phrase 'misogynistic and homophobic Twitter posts' to something like 'Twitter posts that some/many have seen as misogynistic and homophobic.' My view has been that we don't need to take sides in the controversy - we simply need to inform readers of it. Readers can then make their own minds up. (Note that my aim has not been to insert language asserting that the tweets were definitely NOT homophonic and misogynistic.) 2. The record will show that I made repeated good faith attempts at compromise, from watering down my language (even to something like 'tweets that were widely seen as homophobic and misogynistic') to agreeing to keep that phrase as is but adding a reference to Young's defence of himself in Quillette right afterwards. All these attempts at compromise were rejected out of hand. 3. I several times referred the matter to various fora. On these occasions, several other Misplaced Pages users agreed with me that the phrase as stands could use some re-working to abide by the neutral point of view policy. In fact, it's my recollection that it was nearly always the majority of users who supported a change to the language, with a small number of insistent and active opponents (e.g. Fae) refusing to change it. At any rate, there was very clearly never any consensus against my view. 4. Through the course of the controversy I have always been unfailingly polite, never resorting to speculation about my interlocutors' motives. This has been in striking contrast to Fae, for example, who repeatedly accused me of bad faith, and made groundless insinuations about me. 5. It's true that I have made a good number of reverts and changes to the phrase in question, but that's also true of Fae. I may have stepped over a line in Misplaced Pages policy that I'm not familiar with, but if it was just my reverts that drew the ban, I fail to see why my reverts should draw a ban but Fae's shouldn't, especially considering that I was the one defending Misplaced Pages policies, and I had the support of the majority of those who commented on the controversy. 6. I have a pretty clean record on Misplaced Pages, mainly contributing sections of articles on Greek history. I think this is the first big controversy I've been involved in. Fae, by contrast, is apparently often involved in controversies of this sort - in fact I happened to notice that there is currently a complaint against Fae for what looks like highly partisan activism on the article about the Yaniv affair. 7. I'm also, as I noted above, not incredibly clued-up technically. I've struggled a little bit to put my case against Fae and a few other highly active and motivated partisan accounts, all of which seem much better connected with administrators. I also have a full-time job so can only spend time here once every few months. (This, by the way, has definitely undermined my faith in how serious Misplaced Pages takes political neutrality, and meant that I'm now less willing to spend any significant amount of time contributing.)

That's all for now. Thanks for your time, and I hope you'll reconsider the ban. I should add that I'm still very willing to work towards a reasonable compromise with respect to the phrase in question. Cleisthenes2 (talk) 06:03, 10 August 2019 (UTC)