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Furkan1907 (talk) 18:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:Adolf_Hitler,_20._april_1945.jpg_(2).jpg This photo is from March 20, 1945, not April 20, 1945. https://www.reddit.com/r/ww2/comments/sq01hc/adolf_hitler_march_1945/ https://twitter.com/ww2turkiye/status/1785209094082617803 https://www.hitler-archive.com/photo.php?p=33QYTKfe

The photo was clearly taken on March 20, 1945.

None of those are RS. Slatersteven (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Photographs taken at the same place and location, at the moment when Hitler saluted the young soldier. Furkan1907 (talk) 13:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:Adolf_Hitler,_20._april_1945.jpg_(2).jpg https://www.hitler-archive.com/photo.php?p=33QYTKfe If there is no problem with vision, it can be understood that both were taken at the same place and time: March 20, 1945. Furkan1907 (talk) 13:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
The description of the photo on Misplaced Pages also says March 20, 1945, but let me explain further. April 20, 1945 is wrong. Furkan1907 (talk) 13:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
An anonymous person changed the date on the photo at the Commons on Dec 23/24. I have changed it back, because that's what this source says. April 20, 1945, was Hitler's last birthday and his last visit to the surface. He gave medals to several young soldiers. That's what we are seeing in the photo. This source has an incorrect date, because it shows the same event, which took place on Hitler's birthday, and was his last public appearance. Diannaa (talk) 15:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpHfAdKeXkQ&t=30s 0.30 Mark Felton, a master of historical research, also says it was March 20.
In fact, from the many photos I posted, Hitler's coat, Artur Axmman's stance, the bald man in the background, clearly showed that these photos were taken at the same place and time on March 20, 1945. Furkan1907 (talk) 17:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Now that I have a minute to get the books out, I can tell you that Beevor covers this in chapter 17 ("The Fuhrer's Last Birthday") of The Fall of Berlin 1945,. The description of Hitler meeting Hitler Youth is on page 251. "That afternoon, in the ruins of the Reich Chancellery garden, the Fuhrer worked his way slowly down a line of Hitler Youth, some of whom had received the Iron Cross for attacking Soviet tanks."Evans, in volume III (The Third Reich At War), describes that part of Hitler's final birthday on page 722. "Hitler emerged into the open briefly to review a small detachment of Hitler Youth in the Chancellery garden..." Diannaa (talk) 05:56, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
It is not clear that the date written in the book is the same as that date. But the photographs I posted are clearly taken at the same place and time on March 20, 1945. https://www.reddit.com/r/GermanWW2photos/comments/ufvt7p/adolf_hitler_inspects_soldiers_of_hitler_youth/
Notice the white-skinned bald man in the back. Furkan1907 (talk) 17:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:Adolf_Hitler,_20._april_1945.jpg_(2).jpg Furkan1907 (talk) 17:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
An anonymous person on Reddit is not a good a source for information on this topic. Richard J. Evans is the retired Regius Professor of History at the University of Cambridge, and Antony Beevor is a visiting professor at Birkbeck, University of London, and the University of Kent. Diannaa (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpHfAdKeXkQ&t=30s 0.30 Master of history researcher Mark Felton says this date is March 20. There is no need to insist on the wrong date and give readers false information. Furkan1907 (talk) 08:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Mark Felton Productions is a STRICTLY NON-POLITICAL history channel presenting films by leading military historian and author Dr. Mark Felton on a variety of fascinating historical subjects, with particular focus on WWII and the Cold War. Mark is a well-known British writer, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers Zero Night and Castle of the Eagles, both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. He has written extensively on Japanese war crimes, POW camps, Nazi war criminals, the Holocaust, famous escapes, Hitler and other Nazi leaders. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: www.markfelton.co.uk https://en.wikipedia.org/Mark_Felton Furkan1907 (talk) 09:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
And Beevor has written, what is regarded as pretty much the definitive book about the last days of the Reich (and AH). Why would we ignore that in favour of a (relatively) unknown?Pincrete (talk) 10:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
You wrote in such a way that Mark Felton seems like an NPC passing by on the street. Furkan1907 (talk) 15:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Ok, I gave up. Let that article remain as a wrong date. Do whatever you want. Furkan1907 (talk) 15:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
http://markfelton.co.uk/2016/04/ Furkan1907 (talk) 15:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
One more source: Albert Speer was actually there in the Chancellery Garden that day, and he says it was on Hitler's birthday, April 20. Inside the Third Reich, page 598 of the 1971 paperback. Sometimes sources disagree on things; what we do in cases like that is go with consensus. So yeah, please drop it now, as consensus is against you this time. Diannaa (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Felton's reputation far from of Beevor and even farther away from that of Richard Evans and Ian Kershaw; the latter who also writes the event occurred on Hitler's last birthday of 20 April 1945. See chapter 28 ("Extinction") of Hitler: A Biography, pp. 922–923. And as Diannaa states we must go with WP:RS consensus. Kierzek (talk) 19:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxWY4rFhTg 2.30 So what's your answer to this? Furkan1907 (talk) 08:39, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
The last German Newsreel appears to have been broadcast on 22 March 1945. There is a 100% chance that the image is from March 22, 1945. Furkan1907 (talk) 08:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxWY4rFhTg 2.30 How can her appearance in March jump to April? Furkan1907 (talk) 08:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
We will not be conducting original research spurred by YouTube videos. Remsense ‥  08:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Then get the Mubi video.
https://mubi.com/en/tr/films/die-deutsche-wochenschau-nr-755 Furkan1907 (talk) 08:50, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.filmportal.de/film/die-deutsche-wochenschau-nr-7551945_587f4da2ffa64928b9086c574550aa6c Furkan1907 (talk) 08:51, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
It is obvious that it could not have happened after March 22, 1945. I posted the Official German Newsreel. I was wondering if you are going to post a book source again without giving an answer to this? If you're going to insist, just reject the edit request. Furkan1907 (talk) 08:48, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Feel free to publish your findings somewhere that accepts original research. We do not. Remsense ‥  08:51, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1004475 Furkan1907 (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/United_States_Holocaust_Memorial_Museum Furkan1907 (talk) 08:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum also says March 22. This site has no intention of giving false information. Furkan1907 (talk) 09:01, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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Please change the hatnote at Adolf Hitler#Ancestry from {{see also|Hitler family|Origin theories of Adolf Hitler}} to {{see also|Hitler family}}. The second link is redundant as it was redirected to the first in this AfD. Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8? 19:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

done. Rainsage (talk)

Torturer category

Would the torturer category be appropriate here? 2600:100C:A21D:971A:3DFA:A9B2:FCD8:A60 (talk) 06:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

No. Slatersteven (talk) 10:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Any reason for this? 2600:100C:A21D:971A:19F4:96E7:9B0B:1686 (talk) 20:55, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
He personally did not torture anybody. Diannaa (talk) 02:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Section: "Entry into politics" Sub-section: "Beer Hall Putsch and Landsberg Prison" Paragraph 4 1st sentence

Original text: "While at Landsberg, Hitler dictated most of the first volume of Mein Kampf (lit. 'My Struggle'); originally titled Four and a Half Years of Struggle against Lies, Stupidity, and Cowardice) at first to his chauffeur, Emil Maurice, and then to his deputy, Rudolf Hess."

Suggested edit (shortened): "… volume of Mein Kampf (lit. ‘My Struggle’; originally titled Four and a Half Years of Struggle against Lies, Stupidity, and Cowardice)…" Kcbean (talk) 02:07, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: Fine how it is. Remsense ‥  02:17, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
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