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Recent political revelations

This is worth an update

https://www.wsj.com/tech/mark-zuckerberg-neutral-politics-letter-election-2024-02b86372

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4849003-meta-mark-zuckerberg-biden-administration-government-pressure/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-27/meta-ceo-says-he-was-pressured-by-biden-to-pull-covid-content Helpingtoclarify (talk) 05:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Info from sources provided by yourself and editor JacktheBrown have been integrated in to the article. Thanks both. FeydHuxtable (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Mark's Eastern European origins

My edit in order to clarify origins of Mark's family was removed by @SNUGGUMS: due to:

  • Questionable sourcing:

Both Wprost and The New Voice of Ukraine are reputable online sources. Second source quotes Ukrainian historian Oksana Lobko (PhD in history). I couldn't find English version of the article on The New Voice of Ukraine's website itself. So had to go with the reprint on news.novyny.live.

  • not sure it's even relevant to begin with:

Current info and it's source in the article about his ancestors being from Poland violates Using the subject as a self-published source which says: Such material may be used as a source only if: it does not involve claims about third parties. In his post he's talking about third party - his great grandparents, not about himself. So that statement either needs to be removed or clarified, which is what I did. Korwinski (talk) 12:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

While I admittedly wasn't familiar with the linked publications, my point on relevance was that simply mentioning Zuck has ancestors from Austria, Germany, Poland is sufficient detail, so I don't see the need to go into specific parts of the countries. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
It's not sufficient, but misleading. His ancestors were not from Poland. Because when his great-great grandfather was born in 1866, Poland did not exist on political map of Europe for almost a century at that point. Naturally they also weren't Polish citizens. We don't even know if they ever lived in any Polish state, because Jews used to move around back then. And they could have easily moved to Galicia after partitions from Hungary, Prussia, proper Austria or Lithuania. Korwinski (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
What exactly is "proper" Austria supposed to mean? At no point have I came across that being used before its name. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
It's usually used as another name for Archduchy of Austria. Sometimes also including surrounding predominantly German-speaking Duchies that were part of Austrian Empire. Examples: 1, 2. 23:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC) Korwinski (talk) 23:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Mention of The Social Network in the lead

The introduction presents The Social Network as a film "depicting Zuckerberg's early career, legal troubles and initial success with Facebook". But the film is largely dramatized and only loosely based on what happened. As explained in the article, Aaron Sorkin himself explained that he wanted it to be good storytelling, and was not particularly interested in truth. The introduction should probably hint at this fact. Alenoach (talk) 23:37, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Categories

Should categories such as Jewish buissness people be added? Thermicknight7 (talk) 06:54, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm inclined to say no per WP:Overcategorization#Non-defining characteristics when that doesn't appear to be a trait he's prominently noted for, at least compared to being a general businessman or facing controversies involving Facebook, regardless of accuracy. We shouldn't simply assume every trait is worth adding a category for. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
I second the no sentiment for similar reasons. There is a good discussion on the lengthy Leon Trotsky talk page about this Czarking0 (talk) 19:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Zuck

Mark Zuckerberg is often referred to as Zuck informally. This includes media too. That should be incorporated one way or the other, perhaps in the introduction. Appu (talk) 10:22, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Appu: you need to provide reliable sources that show this and that it is notable enough for the introduction. Opolito (talk) 04:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
It doesn't appear to be something the man himself uses, only a term other people (including journalists) refer to him as. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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