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| : The Arabs/Muslims allowed the Jews to live in their midst as ]s only until the Jews expressed their wish for ''']''' and ] (as did many peoples at that time - including 22 huge Arab nation-states created in the territory of the former ]). Hope you are not trying to ''push'' the same cause for the Palestinian Arabs but ''deny'' it for the Jews? BTW, most of Sephardi Jews did not thrive and had to leave behind all their property when they were expelled. ]←]←] 08:51, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) | : The Arabs/Muslims allowed the Jews to live in their midst as ]s only until the Jews expressed their wish for ''']''' and ] (as did many peoples at that time - including 22 huge Arab nation-states created in the territory of the former ]). Hope you are not trying to ''push'' the same cause for the Palestinian Arabs but ''deny'' it for the Jews? BTW, most of Sephardi Jews did not thrive and had to leave behind all their property when they were expelled. ]←]←] 08:51, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) | ||
| ::The Jews living in Arab countries were Arabs, just like their Christian and Muslim fellow citizens. Self-determination and sovereignty applies to nations, not religious groups. Many Arab Jews worked to liberate their countries from European colonialism. The Jews are not a nation unto themselves despite the Zionist propaganda. The Jews are a religious group. Zionism is religious nationalism, a political movenment. Judaism and Zionism are two different things. You claim that Sephardi Jews did not thrive for 2500 years living in Arab countries then in the same sentence you complain that they were forced to leave behind all their property when they were expelled. Which is it? If they did not thrive, why did they have so much property? ] 14:15, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC) | |||
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#REDIRECT Talk:Immigration_to_Israel_from_Arab_lands
Until recently, this was a redirect. If there is a controversy, I'll just turn it back into a redirect. My guess is the focus on the Arab lands is because they focus on Palestinians. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 04:54, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I see. That history explains alot, especially the Talk page from the original link. In that light, you have done a very creditable job of listing the long history of cases of Jewish refugees. The intro just needs to be NPOVed. I don't think the focus on Sephardim in Israel is appropriate for the page title which is much broader. Thanks. Alberuni 05:04, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
2500 year old communities
The fact that Jewish communities lived (thrived?) as Arabs in Arab countries for 2500 years UNTIL the (mostly European/American Zionists) established a Jewish state in Palestine should tell you something about the reasons why these Arab Jews suddenly became Jewish refugees. Alberuni 05:36, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The Arabs/Muslims allowed the Jews to live in their midst as dhimmis only until the Jews expressed their wish for self-determination and sovereignty (as did many peoples at that time - including 22 huge Arab nation-states created in the territory of the former Ottoman Empire). Hope you are not trying to push the same cause for the Palestinian Arabs but deny it for the Jews? BTW, most of Sephardi Jews did not thrive and had to leave behind all their property when they were expelled. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 08:51, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The Jews living in Arab countries were Arabs, just like their Christian and Muslim fellow citizens. Self-determination and sovereignty applies to nations, not religious groups. Many Arab Jews worked to liberate their countries from European colonialism. The Jews are not a nation unto themselves despite the Zionist propaganda. The Jews are a religious group. Zionism is religious nationalism, a political movenment. Judaism and Zionism are two different things. You claim that Sephardi Jews did not thrive for 2500 years living in Arab countries then in the same sentence you complain that they were forced to leave behind all their property when they were expelled. Which is it? If they did not thrive, why did they have so much property? Alberuni 14:15, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)