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Articles created/expanded on November 19

Sun Haven (video game)

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• ... that players can marry the leader in Sun Haven?

• Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/all-sun-haven-marriage-candidates-romance-guide/#h-lucia

• • ALT1: ... that players have unlimited energy in Sun Haven, unlike other farm sims? Source: https://www.ign.com/wikis/sun-haven/Tips_and_Tricks_for_Beginners "One of our favorite features in Sun Haven (or lack thereof) is a stamina system. You don't need to worry about passing out from exerting too much energy like you do in other farming games"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Crimson Diamond
  • Comment: Coincidentally, the QPQ is also a video game. I've been waiting for this game on the Switch (even though I don't own one) and its finally due to release by end of month! It was all because of this video.

JuniperChill (talk) 00:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC).

• Note: this may be suitable to run on 30 November, the day after the game is on the Switch as its scheduled to release on 29 Nov at 0700 PST (1500 UTC) according to this Reddit post, which was posted by one of the developers (see the username). I totally forgot about the special hook occasion and only just realised. If not, the 29th will do. JuniperChill (talk) 22:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Also ALT0a: that players can marry Lucia, the leader of Sun Haven?
• Pretty well-written and interesting article. Both the length and citation quality are alright, however I am of the view that the proposed hooks might potentially be in violation of the rule that "If the subject of the hook is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact." (WP:DYKFICTION). Would be great if you could propose some other alternatives. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:56, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
  • @Kingoflettuce: Well, you can't marry the leaders of Stardew Valley, Coral Island and My Time at Portia/Sandrock so I was thinking SH is unique in this way. Plus, marrying is definitely a real-world fact so I only think ALT1 fails DYKFICTION (because you don't have unlimited stamina IRL) and have self-crossed it out, leaving ALT0/0a it is. JuniperChill (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

I would disagree with saying that ALT0 definitely meets WP:DYKFICTION because it's about marriage and the concept of marriage is a real-life fact. Plenty of things that happen in real life, such as births, deaths, marriages, going to school, etc. happen in works of fiction. The real issue here based on WP:DYKFICTION is if ALT0 is to be interpreted as a game mechanic or as a plot point: if it's the former, it might meet the guideline, but if it's the latter, it may not. Game mechanics are among those edge cases where it's not clear if DYKFICTION is met or not. At the very least, a reword may be needed. If not, maybe a different angle is needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:10, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I'll hope for the best for this one then. I think i've learnt that DYK hooks shouldn't talk about the game and talk about the real word associated with it. JuniperChill (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

ALT2: "that Sun Haven did not gain a lot of attention until full release in 2023?"

ALT3: "that only a few games combine farming RPG like Sun Haven does?"

Sources: https://www.thegamer.com/best-farming-games-ranked/ "This indie gem has flown under the radar for a surprisingly long time, not gaining much attention until it had its official 1.0 release in early 2023" and https://www.thegamer.com/sun-haven-worth-it/ "Few games blend farming RPG mechanics, casual slice-of-life interactions, and high fantasy styles like Sun Haven does" for ALT2 and 3 respectively

@Kingoflettuce: Pinging for a return to the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I'd hate to be that guy, but I really don't find ALTS 3 and 4 interesting at all. Maybe others might? The article is rather well written and the other DYK criteria aren't an issue. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 13:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Thinking about this, I would have to agree. ALT2 is very vague (it is not uncommon for early access games to not gain traction until much later, let alone full release games), while ALT3 as currently written is also pretty vague and not very hooky. Taking a look at the article, I'm actually not sure if the article is even a good fit for DYK as there doesn't really seem to be any hook material in it, not even in the Reception section. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• The only remaining options I can see in the article could be either of the following:

ALT4 ... that the 2023 life simulator Sun Haven has been compared to Stardew Valley?

ALT5 ... that a reviewer described the game Sun Haven as similar to Stardew Valley, but more magical and fantastic?

Stardew Valley is a very popular and well-known game (saying as someone who's yet to play it), but I'm not actually sure if the angles would work if readers don't know Stardew Valley. In addition, JuniperChill has a notice on their talk page saying they are on Wikibreak until the end of the month: should the nomination continue in their absence? Pinging Kingoflettuce again for input, or possibly other editors like RoySmith and Launchballer regarding the latter question. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, im on a christmas holiday rn which is why I made almost no edits this month. As my talk page says, I will be back sometime around 30 Dec. I would think alt5 is the way to go because it adds more info than alt4, but I should put this nom on hold until at least new year. JuniperChill (talk) 06:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

WP:DYKTIMEOUT suggests we should keep this alive until Jan 20th. RoySmith (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

@Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith: I'm home now. Does anyone have an optionion on alt4-5? I think we can work with alt4-5 since this game has often been compared with Stardew (well, Fields of Mistria too given the influx of new farm sims from 2023). A little bit unfortunate that I was on a long holiday wikibreak but at least Tiny Glade (nom) was reviewed just days before that started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniperChill (talk • contribs) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Redoing pings to @Kingoflettuce, Narutolovehinata5, and RoySmith:, which wouldn't have gone through because original post was not signed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I must have forgotten that I need to manually sign posts here due to lack of reply feature and especially due to my wikiholidaybreak. I'm quite used to the reply feature as it automatically appends my signature. I only forgotten to sign my comment a few times and it was all by accident. I was about to leave a followup comment cause I would've expected a reply within 24 hours. JuniperChill (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

As the proposer of ALT4-5, I'm probably not the best person to ask regarding them. As a gamer I might find them somewhat interesting, but I'm not sure if either hook would appeal to non-gamers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

• Very easy workaround for "no real-world connection" in the marriage thing: "ALT6:.... that Sun Haven has drawn attention for letting players marry the leader?" DS (talk) 21:17, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
  • New reviewer needed to check the recent ALT hooks and to see whether this is ready to be promoted; we're running out of time on this one. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 22

Sugya

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• ... that the composition of a sugya, or passage in the Babylonian Talmud, has multiple layers, with the latest edited with an anonymous voice?

• Source: "Separating the Tannaitic, Amoraic, and Stammaitic layers reveals that the rabbis employ increasingly abstract formulations and concepts in their legal science." Stammaitic = anonymous (same source). See: Rubenstein at https://www.ancientjewreview.com/read/2016/2/9/talmudicstories

• ALT1: ... that a sugya, or passage in the Talmud, may be read as folklore, philosophy, proto-feminist, or legal virtuosity? Source: Folklore -- Stein, Dina (2019). "Linguistic Liaisons: Wives and Vows in the Babylonian Talmud (BT Nedarim 66a-b)". Nashim: A Journal of Jewish Women's Studies & Gender Issues (35). Philosophy: Lévinas, Emmanuel; Aronowicz, Annette; Lévinas, Emmanuel (1990). Nine Talmudic readings. Bloomington: Indiana Univ. Press. ISBN 978-0-253-20876-7. Proto-feminist: Hauptman, Judith (1998). Rereading the rabbis: a woman's voice. Boulder, Colo.: Westview Press. ISBN 978-0-8133-3400-4. Conceptual "virtuosity: -- Moscovitz, Leib (2003). ""Designation is Significant": An Analysis of the Conceptual Sugya in bSan 47b–48b". AJS Review. 27 (2): 227–252. Let me know if quotes from sources would be helpful.
• ALT2: ... that anonymous editors may create a sugya, or passage in the Talmud, by rewording quotations by earlier rabbis? Source: Moscovitz, Leib. "'The Holy Blessed One Be He... Does Not Permit the Righteous to Stumble': Reflections on the Development of a Remarkable BT Theologoumenon." In Rubenstein, Jeffrey L., ed. Creation and Composition: the Contribution of the Bavli Redactors (Stammaim) to the Aggada. Mohr Sieback, 2005, p126 "Second, the anonymous BT redactors contributed to the Talmud by reformulating amoraic dicta, not just by adding to their statements." Friedman, Shamma (2005). "A Good Story Deserves Retelling – The Unfolding Of The Akiva Legend" in same book: see p.72 "anonymous voice in the sugyot... original and creative rather than simply preserving or transmitting"
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tony Pajaczkowski
• Comment: Open to suggestions with the hook, trying to avoid insider jargon. Also, please help with my faulty template use in the QPQ. Btw, "proto-feminist" isn't quite parallel structure.

ProfGray (talk) 04:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC).

• @ProfGray: Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig picks up nothing. I added a {{cn}} tag that needs addressing. More serious, however, is the fact that I don't find any of the hooks to meet WP:DYKINT and I can't see anything in the article that would make a good hook, though the latter may because this is extremely technical.--Launchballer 15:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. How about this? ... that only in the 20th C. were scholars able to prove when a sugya, or passage in the Babylonian Talmud, was invented as if written by earlier authors?

Trying to avoid the plural form, sugyot. "Invented" in the article, could say "composed" in the hook. It's kind of pseudoepigraphic. This finding was crucial to the historical study of Talmud vs the religious. ProfGray (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I still don't find that interesting.--Launchballer 14:28, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Since this is a Judaism-related article, maybe Theleekycauldron might have some ideas? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:16, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 26

Alessandra Rojo de la Vega

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• ...that Alessandra Rojo de la Vega became the mayor of Cuauhtémoc, Mexico City after a very contested election, with a gunshot attack, several vote recounts and accusations of gender violence?

• Source: https://elpais.com/mexico/2024-09-18/el-tribunal-electoral-federal-confirma-el-triunfo-de-alessandra-rojo-de-la-vega-en-la-alcaldia-cuauhtemoc.html

Alan Islas (talk) 15:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC).

• Comment-only, refer to WP:DYKHOOKBLP. (CC) Tbhotch 05:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: Notwithstanding Tbhotch's comment, QPQ has yet to be done. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Alan Islas: You need to review another article, and you also need to consider hooks that are not unduly negative for this living person per Tbhotch's suggestion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • @Sammi Brie: Thanks everybody for looking into my submission. Apologies for the delay in replying, I was not able to work on this due to external circumstances. Completed review of Template:Did you know nominations/Marzēaḥ.
    About the hook, it is not intended to be negative, as Rojo de la Vega showed resiliency to overcame all the obstacles. In the end her case prevailed in the electoral courts and she was confirmed as the winner of a very contested election. However, I do see how it can be interpreted differently. I have to go to work now, but I'll get back to this tonight, edit the original hook and add alternatives. Alan Islas (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Pinging the actual reviewer Kingoflettuce for this update. (I just was pinging to move the nomination along.) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 14:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
      • Thanks, not particularly enthused about the alts either due to lingering BLP concerns, but maybe ALT3 works? KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 03:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 1

Qvadriga

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• ... that the 2014 chariot racing video game Qvadriga was inspired by the 1979 board game Circus Maximus?

• Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20201112035235/https://www.wargamer.com/articles/qvadriga-developer-interview/

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/An American Overture

hahnchen 00:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC).

• This is my first DYK review so let me know if I made a mistake. QPQ has been done. Article long enough (5032 characters), images licensed correctly, Earwig null results, article is well-referenced and presentable. Hook is verified and cited to a reliable primary source. However, I do not think the hook is interesting. Why should regular reader care that a video game is inspired by another board game? Ca 02:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Thanks, the reason I chose this hook is because there's a large gap in between the board game and the video game. I thought it was interesting to show the board game's legacy. I can suggest other hooks which refer to chariot racing, like the forty-three hippodromes and circuses, but I felt that less interesting because they are all just presented from a top down view. - hahnchen 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
    • To me, the fact that this is a racing game based on turn-based tactics seem interesting, since most racing games are real-time. However, I don't know if WP:DYKFICTION applies here. Ca 01:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
      • I think that it being a turn-based tactical racing game is interesting, it is certainly rare for a video game. Alt hooks suggested below, but I still prefer the original

        ALT1... that PC gaming website Rock Paper Shotgun named the turn-based tactics game Qvadriga as the best racing game of 2014?

        * Source: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/best-racing-game-2014-qvadriga

        ALT2... that Qvadriga is a turn-based tactics chariot racing video game set in ancient Rome?

        * Source: https://www.eurogamer.net/qvadriga-review or http://www.turnopia.com/qvadriga/ or the game itself

      • hahnchen 20:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
• I think the original hook is the most interesting due to the contrast of game years. But the alternative hooks are also good. Maybe more emphasis could be placed on the contrast between mobile game vs board game? Moondragon21 (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Tellus (app)

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• ... that even though California-based company Tellus does not possess a banking license, it offers non-FDIC-insured interest-bearing demand deposit accounts to consumers? Source: Barron's 1
  • ALT1: ... that 68% of funds lent by Tellus between April and December 2023 were given to affiliates of one real estate investment firm to invest in Silicon Valley housing? Source: Barron's 2
  • ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company? Source: Barron's 1
  • ALT3: ... that while Tellus packages together cash from multiple consumer depositors to make real estate loans, and is not FDIC-insured, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities to consumers? Source: TechCrunch
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cherry on Top (Bini song) Template:Did you know nominations/Dithapelo Keorapetse
  • Comment: QPQs completed.

— Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC).

• This is not a review but rather than a comment, but ALT0 and ALT3 will probably have to be rejected due to both WP:DYKINT concerns (reliance on specialist terms that may not be easily understood by non-financial savvy readers, especially outside the US) and for also sounding rather promotional. ALT2 might be the only suitable option at this point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

  I understand how one could read Alt0 to be promotional (though I disagree and don’t see why non-insured demand deposit accounts are appealing but for their higher rates, which isn’t in the hook). But I’m really not sure how Alt3 could be seen that way—it’s highlighting that they don't purport to offer mortgage-backed securities even though they make what appears (to at least some professors cited in the body) be some sort of securitized loan offering without registration. That being said, I do take your point that people who don’t know much about managing their finances through investment could find these two hooks’ nuances hard to understand.Separately, I had been considering a book about the mysterious non-existent partnerships with banks that are mentioned in the article and were the subject of Senate scrutiny, but I couldn’t figure out a way to write it concisely in hook form without oversimplifying. I’ll take a crack at that over the next couple days with a clear head. — Red-tailed sock _{(Red-tailed hawk's nest)} 16:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

• I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 13:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Overall: Thank you for this carefully-detailed article about financial wheeler-dealing. Contrary to above comments, it would seem to me that any intelligent person can smell he stink emanating from that dodgy company, no matter what country they are in. So well done for alerting us to it, and well done for writing hooks which may guide readers to take a good look at the article. I could tell from the hooks alone that there was something very unsafe about the company's handliing of money, so I would certainly not take the hooks as obscure or uninteresting.

Good to go, with a preference for ALT3, even though it has 199 characters (i.e. close to the max of 200). Please do not prune ALT3, because this kind of financial detail is important and should not be messed about with. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Red-tailed hawk, am I right to read "and is not FIDC-insured" as only indirectly relevant to the rest of the hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29: I am going to give a long-winded answer for posterity’s sake, but the short answer is that it is directly relevant.

The way that the fractional-reserve banking systems works (in a very simplified way) is that banks receive deposits from customers and pool those funds to make loans, while keeping only a minimal small fraction of deposits as actual cash on hand. Banks receive interest payments from the loans they have made, and in turn provide customers with interest in their deposit accounts. In the U.S., banks are required to be FDIC insured—this keeps confidence in banks and prevents a bank run.

Tellus, however, is not a licensed bank. As such, it doesn’t answer to the banking regulators. It also doesn’t hold FDIC insurance, as non-bank financial firms aren’t eligible for it.

There is another to pool money from several individuals in order to issue a loan—securitization. In the mortgage industry, it is common for mortgage issuers to sell mortgages to other banks and Qualified institutional buyers, who would collect the interest in the long run. A mortgage-backed security is a financial instrument that is backed by these sorts of mortgages (alone or pooled with others); the security is broken into shares which are then distributed to other parties. Unregistered securities exist, and can even be sold between third-party banks and other QIBs under SEC rule 144A, but the big rule is that you can’t sell them to ordinary people because.

The way that Tellus boost/reserve works (based on their January 2023 Boost ToS) is that deposits are general obligation debts of Tellus to its account holders, and represents only a debt from Tellus to the account holders. Tellus says that the cash accounts are not mortgage-backed securities because they are not; in fact, they’re backed only by Tellus’s future income as a firm—there is no specific asset backing them.

So, you’ve got something here that they say is not a mortgage-backed security. And they also aren’t claiming that it’s a demand deposit backed by a specific asset, while also claiming in advertising that one can withdraw money (for boost accounts) whenever one would like. So one’s left with concluding that that they’re essentially securing private, apparently callable (in advertising but not in the actual customer agreement), interest-bearing debt financing to themselves from a set of people that apparently includes non-accredited investors. And the company is using that money (based on public statements) for commercial lending of its own.

So, yes, the FDIC part matters, since it indicates that the firm is not acting like a bank would. And the MBS part matters, as it indicates that there is no specific asset backing the deposits. It’s its own thing, and it’s a unique and unusual model for a consumer-facing business’s finance arm.

— Red-tailed sock _{(Red-tailed hawk's nest)} 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• The hook has been pulled from Prep owing to concerns about the original hook (which is now struck). Per the discussion at WT:DYK, there are two possible options: ALT2, and a hook proposed by RoySmith (labeled as ALT4 here):

• ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company?
• ALT4 ... that while Tellus uses non-FDIC insured consumer deposits to make real-estate loans, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities?

While one editor also said ALT2 is suitable, discussion leaned more towards either of these two, so a new reviewer is needed to make a final decision. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

No, the discussion did not determine that, nor strike those hooks. Please do not strike my comments against the guidance of WP:TPO and please self-revert, as you have become WP:INVOLVED here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 22:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

For the benefit of any new reviewers, the abovementioned discussion about this nomination is at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Tellus (app). Storye book (talk) 10:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Now archived at Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know/Archive 203#h-Tellus_(app)-20241229093500. ~Darth Stabro 17:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 2

Influencer

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• ... that the 2021 Supreme Court NCAA v. Alston ruling made student athlete influencers (pictured) eligible for compensation?

• Source: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/31679946/supreme-court-sides-former-players-dispute-ncaa-compensation

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia chrysantha
• Comment: 2 QPQs in one.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC).

• Interesting article. No problems with copyright and hook mentioned in the article with proper source. Images have no copyright problems and freely licensed. Overall, the article has no problems with citations. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 12:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
  • @TonyTheTiger, Toadboy123, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith: per the nominator's request, I've pulled this hook while we sort out some content issues. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
• @Theleekycauldron, Toadboy123, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith: The article talk is pointing toward a formal WP:RM, which is a one-week process once it is started. Before it is started, a procedural reversion back to the original location is considered Kosher. Then the RM can commence. This was moved from main space on December 2. I am going to assume that if everything is settled within 2 months of that date it would be considered timely for DYK since it is not uncommon for noms to drag on that long. I expect to be able to report back with a properly formed page location consensus via RM before then.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:59, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
  • P.S. I do believe even a non-RM admin can process the reversion, if anyone wants to speed the process initiation along.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
    • My attitude on stuff like this is that as long as you get the nomination in on time (which you have), that stops the clock, so I wouldn't worry about that. RoySmith (talk) 13:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
• Still waiting on Talk:Influencer#Requested_move_8_January_2025.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 10

2024 MLS expansion draft

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that San Diego FC, Major League Soccer's newest team selected five new players during the 2024 MLS expansion draft?

• Source: "San Diego FC: 2024 MLS Expansion Draft results". Major League Socccer. December 11, 2024. Retrieved December 12, 2024.

• ALT1: ... that Heine Gikling Bruseth, Hamady Diop, Jasper Löffelsend, Hosei Kijima, and Thiago Andrade were selected in the 2024 MLS expansion draft by San Diego FC? Source: "San Diego FC: 2024 MLS Expansion Draft results". Major League Socccer. December 11, 2024. Retrieved December 12, 2024.
• Reviewed:

Demt1298 (talk) 00:50, 13 December 2024 (UTC).

• Neither hook is interesting to a broad audience, as outside of football/soccer fans, the hook is unlikely to be perceived as interesting or unusual. Please provide more accessible hooks that can attract or interest even non-MLS fans. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@SounderBruce, BeanieFan11, and Gonzo fan2007: Is it okay if any of you propose alternate hooks, if it is possible? Also pinging Demt1298 and Motdattan for their input. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Both hooks are pretty boring, even to this soccer fan. How about this ALT2: ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft took place at a shopping center? Source: San Diego Union-Tribune SounderBruce 00:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Maybe ALT3 ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft featured only five selections? – the next would need to be added, but perhaps ALT4 ... that the 2024 MLS expansion draft featured the selections of a Norwegian, a Senegalese, a German, a Japanese, and a Brazilian – and no one else? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I like SounderBruce's suggestion the most. Just waiting for a response from the nominator before proceeding. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I mean as a soccer fan, I don't know why the fact it was at a shopping mall would make it interesting, but I also understand my suggestions were boring, so I don't know I should be the one who defines what is interesting to soccer fans. Demt1298 (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Article is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. QPQ not needed for a nominator with less than five nominations. The hook is supported in-text, but the relevant sentences lack a footnote: this will need to be fixed before the nomination is approved. More worryingly, the "Format" section appears to be a very close paraphrase of the source. The paraphrasing will need to be addressed for the nomination to succeed. If you need any assistance, don't hesitate to ask a copyright expert. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Pinging nominator Demt1298 or our resident MLS expert SounderBruce for help on the close paraphrasing issue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Rulesets cannot avoid paraphrasing due to the need to explain the exact rules and not misrepresent the subject. FWIW, Earwig only has 7.5% confidence and most of the hits were specific terms or names of mechanisms that cannot be changed; the one outlier is "end of the season", which could be tweaked. SounderBruce 07:17, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria: Given the above, does the article have close paraphrasing to you, or would the wording slide per WP:LIMITED? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Earwig checks only direct copying, not close paraphrasing. I think what's present goes beyond LIMITED, but there is also the option of quoting directly if necessary. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Demt1298 and SounderBruce: The above still need addressing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

This is not my nomination, so I would prefer not to be pinged. I was only here to offer a suggestion. SounderBruce 00:45, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

• @Demt1298: Per the above, the nomination will be closed as unsuccessful if the paraphrasing issues are not addressed within a reasonable timeframe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 13

Madagascar banana

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that there are only three mature Madagascar banana trees?

• Source: "Only five mature individuals of E. perrieri have been previously identified in the whole of Madagascar, and a recent survey has suggested that now only three of these may be left (Analavelona, Ampefy and Maintirano areas)." https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana

• ALT1: ... that the Madagascar banana is critically endangered? Source: https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana
• Reviewed:
• Comment: No QPQ required as Laffuble will own this DYK as you can see from talk page. I (Chidgk1) just put it in for them and will deal with any questions they might be unsure about being relatively new to Misplaced Pages

Chidgk1 (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:

Overall: Hello Laffuble, welcome to DYK, I hope you have a wonderful time here! I have a few concerns regarding the article which I will outline below, and will ping Chidgk1 since there are outstanding inquiries about the state of this article:
ALT0 is truthfully the most interesting of the two hooks proposed. Plenty of things out there are critically endangered, it is a conservation category onto itself. The severely restricted population serves as a much better hook. However, the hook as it stands right now is not supported by the material within the article and the source, which states there are five mature individuals rather than three. I will strike ALT1 from consideration.
iNaturalist is not a good source for the plant's morphology, nor is Rarepalmseeds, which is a site with commercial interests. A much better source for that information is either a study or the original description, if it can be located. iNaturalist's image gallery being a source falls into WP:OR. Google Scholar is a helpful source for finding research papers regarding Ensete perrieri, if you're stuck finding trustworthy sources.
Earwig detects no copyvio issues, long enough, and new enough. I hope this can be of help to you! Ornithoptera (talk) 07:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ornithoptera: We have made some changes - is it ok now?

Chidgk1 My apologies but I see that you have simply replaced the problematic sources for the “Description” section, rather than consulting the source and making the necessary changes to the article using the information presented there. That will not be enough to allow for the article to pass scrutiny. Would you be able to take a look at the source rather than simply replacing the original citations? In addition, the hook has not been updated per my request, since it is not supported by the article text. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows: Ensete perrieri (Claverie) comb. nov. ; Musa perrieri P. Claverie in Comptes Rendus Acad. Sci. Paris 140 (1905), 1612, nomen, et in Ann. us. Colon. Marseille ser. 2, vol. 7 (1909), p. 74, descr. cum ic. t. 8., this will not serve as a viable source for the passage. I would be most ideal to first consult with the source before using it in the article. I noticed that you and Laffuble had issues with accessing sources, the Misplaced Pages library at WP:LIB, if you have made enough edits, can be a great resource since it has institutional access to several journals that can be of use. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

@Ornithoptera: Thanks for explaining Misplaced Pages Library. Have added quote for hook - is hook OK now? If there are any remaining problems with the description please could you comment in the talk page section below this as it is easier to reply.Chidgk1 (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.

1. The text in the original description section has not been changed to match the source. The source was simply replaced, with the passage's text not significantly changed to address the new source. On top of this, Annales du Muśee colonial de Marseille does not explicitly identify this as E. perrieri. Unless the source is beyond a reasonable doubt that it is E. perrieri, it is not the most ideal. I would emphasize that it is most ideal to have the entire section re-written and updated to reflect sources that explicitly include a description of E. perrieri.

Laffuble Are you able to deal with this? If you are at uni maybe the librarian there can advise? I don't think there is any rush now so if you cannot fix it please contact me after Xmas and I will root around in the Misplaced Pages library mentioned above.

1. iNaturalist is not a reliable source. It is a social media site that provides valuable insight, but the information cannot be considered reliable as anyone can upload an observation and provide faulty information.

@Ornithoptera: You are right that most info on iNaturalist is from members of the public so should not be cited, however the few photos which they classify as "research grade" are reliable in my opinion. If you disgree I will be happy to start a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard so we can get more thoughts on it. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I really want to assist this DYK make it through, but I really would like to have all necessary edits be done before I am alerted to allow for it to pass. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Laffuble and Chidgk1, has there been any adjustments to the article since we have had our last conversation? I don't believe there has been any activity since the 30th. In terms of the iNaturalist comment, "research grade" is a meaningless designation exclusive to the site, and has little bearing in many circles outside of that. Compare that concept with "reddit gold" or "subtweet." While it is important in some circles, I don't think it would be a meaningful piece of content for the article, and a statistic that can be in flux if the status of the observations is changed or if another is found. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Ornithoptera:. I am busy now with a GA of mine which is being reviewed. Pretty sure no one else but me will be interested in writing about that coal-fired power plant here in Turkey. Totally guessing but Laffuble might be a student so perhaps busy with studies. Whereas I am surprised no one from the plants project seems to be interested in this - I will ask there one more time. Otherwise I might have time to look at this next week. If none of us have done anything by the end of next week feel free to close it off as out of time. Even if that happens your comments are still useful for the future so I don't think your time has been wasted. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

I think that the statements about saving the Cavendish banana are mostly hype. Resistance factors potentially can be obtained from any species of Musa or Ensete, including members of the Musa acuminata AAA cultivar group.

Also, elsewhere I have seen complaints that research grade at iNaturalist is too easily obtained, and can't be relied upon. Lavateraguy (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

• The article need to be moved to its scientific name, Ensete perrieri. This is the consensus at WP:WikiProject Plants in general, and in this case in particular, "Madagascar Banana" seems to be a recent invention by publicity departments. Abductive (reasoning) 12:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ornithoptera: Following the improvements by Lavateraguy is there anything more needed for DYK? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@Abductive: Unless Ornithoptera says it is essential to pass DYK please can you formally propose renaming on a separate section of the talk page and I will detail my opposition there. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

You don't think the article title going against longstanding consensus is a problem? Abductive (reasoning) 05:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't know whether it is a big enough problem to stop DYK - that is a decision for the DYK reviewer @Ornithoptera: Chidgk1 (talk) 07:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Decolonization is Not a Metaphor

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• Article history

• ... that the title of a paper calling for the return of the United States to Indigenous sovereignty has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors?

• Source: Combination of Indigenous sovereignty was never ceded, and the continued presence of settlers is essentially illegitimate. and which explains how "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor". The paper itself as a primary source also supports the first part of the hook.

• Reviewed:

Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC).

Thus far, I have been unable to verify that the paper "calls for the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty." Neither of the two sources you cite above appear to support the statement, they just say the paper calls for a stricter interpretation of the meaning of the word "decolonization", which is a very different thing. Gatoclass (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: That's a very good point. What about "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate?" Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 22:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Again, you would need a source for that statement. Gatoclass (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: This is very verbose, but what about that the title of a paper describing the continued presence of non-indigenous in the United States as being illegitimate has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors? The claim that settler presence in the United States is supported by the source, the only thing I've done is explained "settler" as being "non-Indigenous" because the average person would be more likely to understand that. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Again, a quote from a source confirming the hook statement would be required at minimum. But these suggestions thus far all look a little tortured to me. How about keeping it simple and straightforward, something like:

ALT4: ... that the title of a 2012 academic paper, "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor", has been adopted as a slogan by pro-Palestinian protestors? Gatoclass (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: Sure, that works. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 06:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Having looked a little more closely at the article, I'm not sure your interpretation of the paper is accurate. Certainly, it's a difficult text to come to grips with - at least for me, as it contains a lot of academic jargon that tends to obscure the authors' meaning to a non-professional in the field. But for example, you state: "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization". Did he really say that? Because I would have thought that if he had, the paper would be more notorious than merely influential. On the other hand, if he is only saying that that's what decolonization must mean, he is simply defining a term rather than arguing in favour of it, and there is a world of difference between the two.

However, since most of the article is sourced directly to the paper itself, without clarifying quotes, it's hard to know whether your interpretation is accurate. I'm not even entirely sure if the paper itself doesn't count as a primary source here, which might also be problematic.

So, is there any chance you could provide some actual quotes from the paper, or better still perhaps, reliable secondary sources that have written about it, in order to clarify the point? Because I think it's obviously an important distinction to get right. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: The article is far from perfect and I welcome suggestions to improve it as I'm less experienced than I should be with writing from scratch.

I looked into this when you raised it the first time. The closest thing in the text I can find right now is We don’t intend to discourage those who have dedicated careers and lives to teaching themselves and others to be critically conscious of racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, xenophobia, and settler colonialism. We are asking them/you to consider how the pursuit of critical consciousness, the pursuit of social justice through a critical enlightenment, can also be settler moves to innocence - diversions, distractions, which relieve the settler of feelings of guilt or responsibility, and conceal the need to give up land or power or privilege. (emphasis mine)

So, the authors explicitly acknowledge a need for settlers to give up land. Likewise, page 10 of the paper criticizes decolonial scholars that enable "settler moves to innocence". I will likely have to make the article more directly explain what Tuck and Yang said, with better inline citations.

Also, Eve Tuck is a woman with she/her pronouns (at least on her website). Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 07:51, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: This is a bit of a drive-by comment (I haven't looked closely at the wiki article itself), but as someone from this academic discipline who has often seen this article cited/discussed in the field, I'd say it's completely accurate to say that "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate must be redressed by decolonization", that the article "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate", and that "the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty" is what "decolonization" ought to mean. The impact of the article is more like "let's stop saying we're decolonizing when we're just close-reading a novel" than it is "let's decolonize the US for real immediately!" but I haven't seen any exaggerations or misinterpretation of its argument here. I do think ALT4 is the clearest and best hook, though. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but we can't base content-related decisions on the testimony of[REDACTED] editors, we need reliable sources to verify content. So again, either clear quotes from the article that the authors are actually endorsing decolonization of the US, or critiques from reliable secondary sources supporting such an interpretation (although other interpretations would also have to be included if they exist to provide balance). Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

I have to agree with Gatoclass on this; plus I have some other concerns. What we have here is a summary of the paper, but not anything that meaningfully demonstrates why this topic is encyclopedic. A one sentence line saying the paper is influential isn't going to cut it. We need details on how it is influential and who is claiming it is influential. Additionally, we need to see different critical responses to this paper through quotes in published reviews, both positive and negative to meet our WP:POV policies. The current text relies too heavily on the paper itself which is inappropriate as the paper is the subject and is therefore a primary document in this case. Additionally, it isn't clear that the summation of the paper is entirely accurate and is not an original analysis of the paper which would run afoul of WP:SYNTH. What we need here is more reliance on critical analysis and reviews of the paper, and text which more closely aligns with the meaning in the sources without being so close as to be considered plagiarism. The use of clarifying quotes from the paper could also assist in this (ie let the paper speak for itself in key places). It's a difficult line to walk. Additionally, the current text of the article lacks any meaningful critical engagement with the text; to the point that I would consider this incomplete (ie fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE).

In short, we need a decrease in reliance on the paper itself as a cited reference and an increase in reliance on secondary sources about the paper with more critical engagement highlighted. A significant amount of work is needed before this can pass a DYK review. Aside from this, I think Alt4 is a good hook that is usable. It is verified to the cited reference and is interesting. I think these issues are solvable. Ping me when the article has been improved and needs a second look.4meter4 (talk) 20:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Update. In just doing a cursory look in google scholar, SAGE and JSTOR, there are many articles that cite and summarize Tuck and Yang's paper which could be used to source the summary. There are also multiple publications which respond to the work, both affirming and questioning the limits of its praxis. This type of critical commentary is exactly what is needed in this article. I suggest the nominator rewrite the summary based on these types of secondary sources, and create a critical reaction section. 4meter4 (talk) 04:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@4meter4: Can you link some of those or provide the search terms you are using? Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 08:22, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

I gathered some sources for you and put them on the talk page of the article.4meter4 (talk) 09:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

• @Chess: Given that the issues regarding sourcing remain unaddressed, the nomination will be marked for closure if they are not resolved within a reasonable timeframe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@4meter4: What do you think of it now? I've attempted to remove most of the primary sourcing and included reactions to the paper itself. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 02:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

The summary is too perfunctory to pass WP:DYKCOMPLETE. You have not grasped the main point of the paper, and have not identified who the audience is and what the central problem is which in this case is intimately linked to the audience: educators mostly but also social justice workers who have been influenced by education praxis. The article is fundamentally a critique of education praxis around decoloniality calling out teachers specifically but also social justice workers for engaging with "settler moves to innocence" ("settler moves" is a term; these words go together in this order always) through various forms like "Colonial equivocation", "Free your mind and the rest will follow", etc. You've fundamentally misunderstood this section in some ways because you haven't identified that its educators/social justice workers/activists being addressed as being complicit in some of these practices within their work. Which brings us to the "Ethic of incommensurability" which is the meat of the paper and the first truly original part not based on prior work. You've not talked about this at all, which is not surprising because you never really hit on the earlier identified problem that Tuck and Yang are addressing through this ethic, and who they are encouraging to implement that ethic and why. See the talk page for more comments, but honestly the abstract and opening and concluding sections of the paper are your best resources in crafting a summary. A reminder that you can use clarifying quotes from the paper in the summary. At this point, I'm concerned that you fundamentally are missing basic comprehension of the text because neither your first draft or second draft have demonstrated that you can identify the key terms and conclusions in the paper. At this point we are no closer to being ready for the main page with this particular article. 4meter4 (talk) 06:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 15

The Man in the Yellow Tie

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Brandon Routh found it easier to return for The Flash than he did to return for Legends of Tomorrow despite being a regular on the latter?

• Source: https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/11/16/small-victory-brandon-routh-makes-his-dc-return-on-the-flash

• ALT1: ... that the The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" concludes a plotline established two years prior on a different show? Source: https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a40319869/the-flash-john-diggle-arrow/
• ALT2: ... that for The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" both Tom Cavanagh and Matt Letscher reprise their role as Eobard Thawne? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-that-eobard-thawne-twist-in-the-man-in-the-yellow-tie-explained/
• ALT3: ... that the The Flash episode "The Man in the Yellow Tie" guest stars Matt Letscher and Tom Cavanagh as Eobard Thawne and Eobard Thawne respectively? Source: https://comicbook.com/dc/news/the-flash-that-eobard-thawne-twist-in-the-man-in-the-yellow-tie-explained/
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Browning
• Comment: The first source is from a blog interview with Routh.

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC).

Overall: Great hooks! I think ALT1 and ALT2 are most interesting, though I recommend removing "the The Flash episode" from each for concision/more of a surprising effect. I am approving ALT2 as properly cited as-is. The "two years" claim in ALT1 isn't entirely verified by the currently cited source, but (from the article) does verify it, so I'll say that's also approved.

I am requesting another reviewer take a look at this, since this is my first DYK review. By the way, OlifanofmrTennant, you are free to dispense commas more liberally throughout your (article) prose, which I have done for you here :) Toadspike 18:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Giving a second review as requested above. Verifying that the nomination was done on time, the article was long enough, and is free of close paraphrasing. The done QPQ, however, is slightly incomplete. OlifanofmrTennant forgot to also check for the article's newness (according to DYK requirements) and length. She also forgot to verify the hook and to check if it was cited inline. Given the issues, I would suggest replacing the provided QPQ with a more complete review of another article. More pressingly for this nomination, however, is the sentence verifying ALT2 (the only hook I'd personally approve) lacks a footnote: the relevant footnote is instead located in the next sentence. The ref has to be duplicated for DYK verification purposes. Otherwise, Toadspike did a pretty good job for a first review and I hope he takes the above second review for tips in their future reviews. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

I've been holding onto a few other QPQs so here is another: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas (goose) I have taken your advise and rechecked the nomination and everything checks out Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Please make it clear in the original review, making sure to check all the DYK criteria listed in WP:DYKRI. Regarding Thomas (goose), the provided QPQ did not check for article length, only newness, so that has to be corrected for that QPQ to count as well. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: amended Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 11:57, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: is it good to go? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

No, given how the requested re-review that checked all the criteria was still not done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Actually, given the difficulties, I am pinging assistance from an editor like Launchballer, RoySmith, or Theleekycauldron regarding how to assist you in performing more complete DYK reviews. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5 it's not clear to me what the issue is here; could you clarify that? RoySmith (talk) 15:43, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@RoySmith: The provided QPQ for Template:Did you know nominations/Jack Browning was an incomplete review, as it did not take into account all of the DYK criteria, particularly with regards to article age or referencing/verification. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Meh. It looks like this was Toadspike's first review. Let's not get all bent out of shape because they didn't do everything right. My suggestion is to just move on and chalk this up as a learning experience. Who among us didn't screw things up the first time we reviewed an article? RoySmith (talk) 01:03, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@RoySmith: The comments were meant for OlifanofmrTennant, not for Toadspike. OlifanofmrTennant had a number of other similar reviews, so I was hoping that some assistance and guidance could be given to them. If you want, I can re-add the tick, although it might still be a good idea to help assist OlifanofmrTennant so that their future reviews can be more complete. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Ah, I think I understand now. Maybe what makes sense is the next time OlifanofmrTennant does a DYK review, they ping a more experienced reviewer to look over their review and give them additional advice if needed. RoySmith (talk) 01:27, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@RoySmith: Would you be able to give them the needed advice and make the necessary changes to their listed QPQ so that this nomination can be reapproved? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:38, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

The goal here is to make sure OlifanofmrTennant knows how to do a complete review. Looking at their most recent review, Template:Did you know nominations/Armstrong House (Britt, Iowa), I see they checked the two items in question here: article age and referencing, so I'd say we've achieved tht goal. I'll again suggest that we just move on. RoySmith (talk) 00:52, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@RoySmith: To be clear, this is approved right? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 09:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 16

Dubai chocolate

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Dubai chocolate has become so expensive, it is being smuggled and sold on the black market?

• Source: From border seizures to supermarket shelves: Dubai chocolate fever in Hungary, dailynewshungary.com, Man Caught Smuggling 45 Kg Of Dubai Chocolate Over The Swiss Border, falstaff.com, Dubai chocolate a global frenzy: Germans smuggle and queue up for hours in cold for these luxury Lindt bars indiatimes.com, The socials made me do it: The viral Dubai chocolate bar, ladlesandlinens.com

• Reviewed:

Killarnee (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC).

• Comments by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - See below

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - See below

Overall: A newly created article that is long enough. No QPQ required. No copyvio issues.

• The hook is interesting, but the source in the article says "secondary market", not black market.
• There is a contradiction. The first section starts with "Fix Dessert Chocolatier was founded in Dubai in September 2022". Immediately below it says "Sarah Hamouda, who founded the company Fix Dessert Chocolatiers in the Emirate of Dubai in 2021, claimed to be the inventor of the Dubai chocolate". Ignoring the "Chocolatier(s)" inconsistency throughout the page, this first needs to be fixed.
• I added a few maintenance tags that need to be solved as well. (CC) Tbhotch 02:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Tbhotch: I've gone ahead and fixed several problems with the article, please have a look now. Thanks, jolielover♥talk 08:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

 Reviewing... (CC) Tbhotch 20:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

@Jolielover: We're missing the secondary market / black market thing. The cited source trademagazin says "The special candy can be bought for up to 250 thousand forints on the secondary market, according to a report by Pénzcentrum." I'm not an economist but the secondary market doesn't sound similar to the black market. (CC) Tbhotch 22:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Tbhotch: There is a primary market where stocks are rated and sold by the listed company itself and a secondary market where stocks are rated and sold at the stock exchange by the listed company independent traders like you and me. And there is a black market where illegal goods, goods without paying taxes, etc. are sold. I think the difference is quite clear.

I have no idea why some newspapers use secondary market as a synonym for black market, maybe because of the word "black" like the controversy about the black in blacklist, e.g. . In this case, black market or at least when using secondary market linking that word to the article black market and not the article secondary market, is right. Btw, in German media, black market (Schwarzmarkt) is predominant.

Thanks for your work on that. Killarnee (talk) 03:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. My concern would be WP:DYKHOOK since the hook says "it is being smuggled and sold on the black market", which was what hooked me to review this article. When I reviewed the article it did say that it was smuggled and sold on the black market, but the coupled source (mentioned above) was saying "secondary market", which makes it less illegal and attractive for the general audience (i.e. "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic"). The other sources linked on top of this page just say this: "The smuggling operation unfolded over two separate incidents at the Nickelsdorf", "customs officials at the German-Swiss border stopped a man who was attempting to smuggle around 45 kilograms of the coveted 'Dubai chocolate' into Germany", "products from other brands with both the original Dubai chocolate and its many variations fetching high prices on the resale market", "Limited-edition bars are commanding exorbitant prices, with some enduring long queues and even resorting to smuggling", and the most relevant statement, "Dubai doesn't ship to the U.S. and there is a black market for these chocolate bars now, at exhorbitant prices" from this source that is not used in the article. Both the hook and the article must be in synchrony to be approved. (CC) Tbhotch 03:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

I think the hook is an overbording claim if it remains without an indication as to where this would be- the German Swiss border, maybe....! In fact checking how "expensive" it is, it isnt any more in Germany, and the claim apperas to be sensationalizing and not neutral.Wuerzele (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

I was going to make a similar comment to Wuerzele here, the article reads slightly promotional, with sentences like "She aimed to create chocolate bars that combined unique textures and flavors, focusing on the filling to set her company apart from competitors." There are other prose issues, such as not specifying which border is meant both times the word is used and never explaining what kadayif is. This source , which appears to be unreliable per WP:FORBESCON (written by a "Brand Contributor"), also does not verify the statement that bars are 100g, which is contradicted by the paragraph right above it. Taken together, I am not sure if this article is presentable enough for the main page at the moment. Toadspike 20:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Why not include the photo in the hook? Surtsicna (talk) 11:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Jolielover: Any updates to the comments above? (CC) Tbhotch 02:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 21

Sigma Boy

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that the song "Sigma Boy" is effective as an alarm tone?
  • ALT1: ... that the song "Sigma Boy" has been claimed to be effective as a wake-up alarm tone?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ryusei Nishioka
  • Comment: Not sure if this hook is bad or very bad. But it may work for April 1. (Hopefully I’ll come up with something better.)

Moscow Connection (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC).

• @Moscow Connection: In case you weren't aware, DYK rules changed a few months ago to require QPQs at the time of the nomination, rather than up to a week after. As such, please provided a QPQ promptly, as the nomination may be closed without further warning if one isn't given. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Okay, sorry. Give me 30 minutes. --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Done. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
• The article was fresh when nominated and it meets the length requirements. I see plenty of citations, a bit too many in fact. I do not think that we need 18 citations for a single sentence. Funnily enough, there is also a citation needed tag in the article. The article needs a bit of copy-editing to look more encyclopedic (e.g. "don't"→"do not", "guys with fluffy hair"→possibly "young men with a broccoli haircut"). Is one anonymous video game player's mocking of a haircut encyclopedically notable? I see nothing about an alarm tone in the article and the proposed hooks do not strike me as interesting anyway, but there is plenty of material in the article for very interesting hooks. For one thing, the fact that the performers are 11 and 12 years old is attention-grabbing. Then there is the bit about brain rot and the use of "sigma boy" to catch the attention of non-Russian speakers. Moscow Connection, it is unfortunate that you did not nominate Betsy (Russian singer) for DYK alongside this nomination. I would suggest creating an article about Maria Yankovskaya, if she meets Misplaced Pages's notability standards, and adding it to this nomination. Surtsicna (talk) 15:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  The part about an alarm tone was deleted by an IP editor, I've just reverted it back in: . --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  Frankly saying, I was afraid the Betsy article was not good enough for a DYK. As for Maria Yankovskaya (or Maria Iankovskaia; that is the spelling she uses), she does meet the notability criteria but she is not as famous as Betsy. And she is more of an actress / TV presenter than a singer, her article will be harder to create. (There's a biography on VokrugTV.ru . And now "Sigma Boy" entered the charts, so she is notable. But other than that, she wasn't in the news much yet.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  I will look into it. --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  I have changed "don't" to "do not" and "guys" to "young men". But "fluffy hair" is basically the name of the meme. And it is not the same is a "broccoli haircut". --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

  Okay, I will create an article for Maria Yankovskaya. Give me a few days.
  It won't really matter if she or Betsy are nominated for DYK or not. We can still add links to them, they just won't be in bold font. --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

More bold links means more views, i.e. more people reading about the topic you wrote about. It is not a requirement, of course. Surtsicna (talk) 08:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 24

2024 drone sightings

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that news outlets reported drone sightings in August 2024 over US military bases in Germany, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024?

• Source: https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/08/29/drone-sightings-near-bases-infrastructure-unnerve-german-officials/

• ALT1: ... that news outlets reported drone sightings in November 2024 over US military bases in the United Kingdom, well before the major wave of sightings in the US in December 2024? Source: https://www.twz.com/air/multiple-drone-incident-just-occurred-over-usaf-fighter-base-in-england
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents

Sm8900 (talk) 15:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC).

• This article is largely a piece of original research, combining sources that make no mention to other events. Its scope, as relates to the US sightings, is redundant with 2024 Northeastern United States drone sightings. Regarding UK drone sightings, it utilizes the deprecated Daily Mail (WP:DAILYMAIL). Regarding the German sightings, maybe there's something there. However, I'm not seeing enough sustained coverage to clear WP:NOTNEWS right now. Make some corrections, remove the bad sources, and make the scope more precise. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pbritti:, I appreciate your valuable feedback. I have revised the article, and added citations from reliable sources, as you requested. I would welcome any comments on the revised version. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Sm8900: At the minimum, you must also appropriately link and bold the article you are nominating in both proposed hooks. Please do that and I'll look over the article again. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pbritti:, ok, sounds fine.  Done thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:01, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Sm8900: Sorry to be a grinch, but there are still outstanding issues. I have, as a courtesy, bolded the link in your hook. The other issues will be listed below:

1. Citations are awkwardly spaced. Since you are an experienced editor (if not necessarily an experienced DYK nominator), I will ask you to fix this substantial formatting issue.
2. The scope of the final section is, with the exception of the California arrest, fully overlapping with the other drone sightings article. That portion ought to be summarized more succinctly.
3. Cutting down on redundant coverage may cause a length issue; consider adding further content on the German sightings and more clearly tying them and the UK sightings to the US events.
4. You oscillate between "US" and "USA" within your hooks. Please pick one for consistency.

Please let me know if you require further guidance. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pbritti:, ok, as requested; 1) fixed spacing between refs. let me know if further work is needed. 2) made section on US events more concise. 3) added signficant additonal facts and details to section on Germany. 4) used US consistently. I hope thats helpful. Please free to continue your helpful feedback. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Sm8900, seems fine to me. is in no way an adequate QPQ review, so I have struck your inclusion of Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents above. You need to do a complete review of an article (Boxheim Documents, which is all done except for a hook disagreement, is not appropriate), and be sure to address all of the DYK criteria (newness, meets size requirement, hook interestingness and sourcing and length, article sourcing, etc.). See the reviewing instructions and the guidelines for further information. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

ok, no problem, glad to help. reviewed. C/1975 T2 (Suzuki–Saigusa–Mori). thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Formally requesting a second opinion due to the uncertainty about this article. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sm8900: I was going to review this, however the article has an {{updated}} tag and would deserve a {{lead too short}} tag and probably {{globalize}} and {{notability}} tags. The cited QPQ is also massively incomplete and needs to address all of the criteria at WP:DYKRI. I will close this in a week if these aren't fixed.--Launchballer 18:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok, no problem, i understand. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 25

Scorsese Baby Daddy

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that SZA named a song after a well-known crime film director, but did not expect him to know about it hours after release?

• Source: Centeno, Tony M. (December 24, 2024). "SZA Freaks Out After Famed Director's Family Co-Signs Song from Lana LP". WHYI-FM. Retrieved December 26, 2024.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Crabs for Christmas

Elias 🦗🐜 07:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC).

• Comment I'm gonna suggest an alt, if you don't mind :).

  ALT1 ... that a song about desiring an emotionally unstable boyfriend is named after Martin Scorsese?

Di (they-them) (talk) 11:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - While the hook seems true, the source attached here doesn't explicitly support some of the facts. It doesn't verify that Scorsese is known for crime films (just films in general) nor that SZA didn't expect him to find about it (just that his daughter (and potentially him) found out about it). It's possible his daughter posted the story without sharing the song with him. "SZA was shocked after she received the Scorsese family's blessing." could be partially implied to mean this, but I'd still prefer a more direct statement to confirm.
• Interesting:

Overall: Overall, the article presents no problems. Reliable sources exist, the paragraphs are cited, it's new enough, long enough, and there's no copyvio. ALT2 reads as more interesting to me, but it would also need a valid source as the linked one doesn't support the "emotionally unstable boyfriend" portion. I'd be more than happy to approve if this part is resolved. TheDoctorWho (talk) 19:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 26

Crabs for Christmas

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that "Crabs for Christmas", a song about a man asking Santa Claus for crab as a Christmas gift, became a Maryland holiday tradition?

• Source: Worthington, Aliza (December 12, 2023). "The enduring Baltimore charm of David DeBoy's 'Crabs for Christmas,' more than 40 years after initial release". Baltimore Fishbowl. Retrieved December 25, 2024.

• ALT1: ... that a radio station refused to air "Crabs for Christmas" due to its use of the Baltimore accent? Source: DeNike, Lisa (December 14, 1981). "His Christmas record won't make him crabby". The Evening Sun. p. B7. Retrieved December 25, 2024 – via Newspapers.com.
• ALT2: ... that the writer of "Crabs for Christmas" joked that it contributed to Baltimore's population decline? Source: "Our very own Bawlmer, hon, has been immortalized on CD". The Baltimore Sun. November 25, 2001. Retrieved December 26, 2024.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mahra Al Maktoum

charlotte 06:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC).

• Hi. Made a copyedit here before my review; feel free to revert some of the changes if you don't agree with them

Overall: AGF on all the offline sources. Baltimore Sun review has no citation though so you would want to fix that. ALT2 is interesting, but a bit misleading -- it does not convey the jocular nature of the writer's comments. The rest are also fine, although I recommend rewriting them as well to bring out more of their hookiness. Elias 🦗🐜 07:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

@PSA: thank you for the copyedits. I'm unsure what you mean by the review being unsourced; the quotation is in the cited source ("His Christmas record won't make him crabby"), although it is a stretch to call it positive, so I removed that from the lead. I've replaced "said" with "joked" in ALT2 and would welcome any copyedit on the hooks. charlotte 04:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Hm, first off my bad for the "unsourced" comment. Second, my issue with ALT0 right now is that it is a bit too wordy. Perhaps you can trim the hook so that it just focuses on "a song about crabs as a Christmas gift". That's all I have for now Elias 🦗🐜 05:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Algemeyne Entsiklopedye

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that a group of Jewish refugees continued work on their Yiddish encyclopedia after fleeing from Germany and France?

• Source: Trachtenberg, B. (2006). Di Algemeyne Entsiklopedye, the Holocaust and the changing mission of Yiddish scholarship. Journal of Modern Jewish Studies, 5(3), 285–300. https://doi.org/10.1080/14725880600961601

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Esus
• Comment: This was published slightly over a week ago, but since I took some time to expand it recently, I hope that will still be okay.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC).

• I am not a stickler for a day of so difference, although I can't speak for the senior mods. Date, size, refs, copyvio spotcheck, QPQ, are good. I do have concerns over the hook. The article does not mention Poland anywhere. Frankly, the lead and article suggest that they escaped from Germany, then France. Unless this is clarified in the article, the hook should be adjusted to Germany and France. And it probably should mention the Holocaust or WWII for context; the reader may be confused otherwise. Please ping me if any replies are made here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
• @Piotrus: 'facepalm' complete goof on my part, it was extremely late when i wrote this hook and I had just written about someone who had fled germany and poland - fixed lol Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
  • @Generalissima: Then we are good, although I still think the hook could be better of mentioning WWII or The Holocaust for context. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
    • Generalissima, please ping when the numerous tags in the article (part of the ongoing GA review) are resolved. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 27

2024 Estlink 2 incident

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that during investigation for breaking a power cable, pumping out feces and bilgewater from the Eagle S took a day?

• Source: https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/e58cc4ca-ea73-4173-86aa-1b7d50f7055a

Kyseiset huoltotoimet kestävät arviolta kaksi päivää.

• • ALT1: ... that the nomination wizard doesn't have an option to delete alt hooks? Source: a
  • Reviewed: no previous DYK's

NotAGenious (talk) 17:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC).

• Hi @NotAGenious: nice work on your first DYK. This article, over 5x expanded from 775 to 11062 characters, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. QPQ not needed. The hook is interesting and sourced to the Finnish newspaper Iltalehti (which checks out, per Google Translate), however per WP:DYKHOOK the claim in the hook also has to be in the article. Can you add this fact somewhere in the article?

The hook also flows flows a little awkwardly. Might I suggest

• ALT1: ... that during investigation for breaking a power cable, it took a day to pump out all the feces and bilgewater from the Eagle S?

Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't know how long this procedure typically takes, but I feel sorry for the guy who has to inspect all that bilge and sewage. kencf0618 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

• I think the start of the hook has a grammar issue, may I suggest:

ALT2: ... that while investigating a power cable failure, it took a day to pump all the feces and bilgewater out of the Eagle S?

The word "failure" can be exchanged with "break" or "outage" if preferred. Toadspike 08:27, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 28

Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps)

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that on May 5, 2017, the 7th Marine Brigade (pictured) captured three Somali pirates and handed them in to the Somali authorities?

• Source: https://v.cctv.com/2018/03/22/VIDEQJ2yQiV34653c5RL9wDN180322.shtml

• Reviewed:
• Comment: The draft was made by me, User:Buckshot06 published it for me

Additionally 7th Marine Brigade is an alternate name for the Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps), also known as the Jiaolong commandos as of nominating it for Dyk, the article was published exactly 7 days ago so if i have to may I request the 7 day limit be extended

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC).

• Note: I have replaced the word "police" in Thehistorianissac's potential hook with the word "authorities." There is no single Somali Police - most are a bunch of clan militia; most are a total mishmash of various feuding armed groups. The information available is not sufficient to even guarantee that the persons concerned were handed over to the Somali Federal Police, the bunch that exploits and rapaciously profits from the security needs of the inhabitants of Mogadishu. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: Buckshot06 or Thehistorianisaac, the link in the hook should be in bold text. Also, if this hasn't been reviewed by Friday next week, ping me and I'll review it. Toadspike 16:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

{{Buckshot06}} There is a {{cn}} tag in the article and the third paragraph of History deserves another. Please fix these. When you've done that, ping me and I will review this.--Launchballer 18:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - There is a citation needed tag in the lead (can be cited to the OE Watch source) and an uncited sentence beginning with "Sixteen". CGTN is deprecated (see WP:CGTN), so it should be replaced with a better source. It is unclear if the CCTV video is an appropriate source, since the same entry at RSP says that "CCTV International" is also deprecated. The other sources look good; the National Interest piece mentions the Somalia incident as well, in case it helps.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - See sourcing issues above – you should probably change the source in the DYK nom to the SCMP article, since that is a more reliable source.
• Interesting:

Overall: Gonna list a few things here, apologize for the rapid-fire writing style. I believe no QPQ is required, as neither nominator has nominated 5 DYKs. Is there a source for the claim that the soldier in the picture is a member of this unit? As the article is currently written, it is unclear if the April 2017 and 5 May 2017 incidents are the same or not. SCMP says they are, this should be clarified. The article also claims that the pirates were handed over to the Somali Police Force, when the description of the CGTN source says they were handed over to the "semi-autonomous northern region of Puntland" – Buckshot correctly adjusted this to "Somali authorities" in the DYK hook but the article text needs to be updated too. Toadspike 20:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Buckshot06 and Thehistorianisaac, please see the review above and ping me once these issues are adressed. Launchballer, apologies for stealing the review – I started it earlier today only saw your comment when I caused an edit conflict while trying to publish it. Toadspike 20:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Helvis of Ramla

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Helvis of Ramla was the progenitor of the powerful crusader Ibelin family?

• Source: Hans E. Mayer, "Carving up Crusaders: The Early Ibelins and Ramlas", in Outremer: Studies in the History of the Crusading Kingdom of Jerusalem Presented to Joshua Prawer, ed. Benjamin Z. Kedar, Hans E. Mayer, and R.C. Smail (Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi Institute, 1982), p. 111.

• Reviewed:

Adam Bishop (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC).

• For a long time I have been considering creating this article. Helvis is mentioned rather frequently by the leading historians of the crusades, especially by Mayer. The reason I did not create the article, however, is that I could not find evidence of in-depth coverage. All I could gather was genealogical information, and this is all I see in the article now: a list of her family (parents, brothers, husbands, sons) in which she is covered as a link between various men. Is anything known about Helvis's actions? Surtsicna (talk) 13:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  • I was thinking about creating it for a long time as well, and I had the same problem. I wasn't sure I should list it here, since you're right, there's not much about her aside from genealogy. The most that seems to have been written about her is by Hans Mayer, about the possible dates of her birth and marriages. I will see if I can squeeze any more information about the sources I have at hand. Adam Bishop (talk) 23:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Adam Bishop: This seems like an unambiguous WP:NOTINHERITED violation as the article talks about little other than her marriages. Am I missing something?--Launchballer 12:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

No, I suppose it was a premature nomination. I'll see if I can expand it in the future but for now this is the best it's going to be. Adam Bishop (talk) 17:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 30

Stretcher railings

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that London's stretcher railings (example pictured) were mass-produced using an all-metal design to make it easier to clean, and still have kinks that were used as feet from their original purpose as stretchers?
• ALT1a ... that London's stretcher railings (pictured) were mass-produced using an all-metal design to be easier to clean, and still have kinks that were used as feet?
• ALT1b ... that London's stretcher railings were mass-produced using an all-metal design to be easier to clean, and still have kinks (example pictured) that were used as feet?

• Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/15/campaign-save-world-war-ii-stretchers-today-serving-capital/

• Reviewed:

Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC).

• A great topic, and the article is new enough and meets the basic GA requirements on length. No evidence of plagiarism; two images, suitably licensed. No need for a QPQ. However, the article relies heavily on Atlas Obscura, which is an unreliable source per WP:RSP. The hook is interesting, but I would suggest trimming for length: something like:

... that London's stretcher railings (example pictured) were mass-produced using an all-metal design to be easier to clean, and still have kinks that were used as feet?

A search on Google Books turned up a few hits that might help to add reliable sources to the article. UndercoverClassicist 22:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @UndercoverClassicist, thanks for the notes. When writing, I was a little suspicious of the source as it looked liked WP:UGC, but I was not aware of WP:AOPLACES. I've removed those citations; it just so happened that in the two instances of those citations, the content was also verified in the immediately subsequent citation and there's no paragraph without an inline, so I believe this should satisfy WP:V but let me know if you have additional concerns. As to your suggestion, I agree, my orginal was a little too wordy. I will endorse your ALT1. Thanks, Bobby Cohn (talk) 23:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Approved either of the ALT1s. The article could do with a a wider bibliography, as (correctly) removing Atlas Obscura has left it a little thing, but it passes the bar that it needs to at this stage. UndercoverClassicist 14:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

This is my first DYK nom with an image. The set builder will notice the only difference between the ALT1s is the brackets, and I'm okay if they want to take liberties with (example pictured) vs. (pictured) in either location. Thanks all, Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Or the image caption for that matter. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bobby Cohn and UndercoverClassicist: I don't really think "used as feet" in the hook is the best way to phrase it, could we come up with an alternate formulation? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@User:AirshipJungleman29, from the source There were two kinks in the poles meaning they could be rested on the ground but still be picked up quickly and easily. Possibly "still have the kinks they were used to rest on"? Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

An alternative would be to rework the whole thing slightly: something like "...that some railings in London have kinks indicating their original use as stretchers?". UndercoverClassicist 15:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Bobby Cohn would you be happy with that? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

AirshipJungleman29, yes, very. UndercoverClassicist has put it much more elegantly than I could have. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 31

Antoinette Lubaki

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• ... that Antoinette Lubaki is considered to the first artist in Congo to create works on paper?

• Source: https://awarewomenartists.com/en/artiste/antoinette-lubaki/

• ALT1: ... that Antoinette Lubaki is the first known named female artist from Congo? Source: https://awarewomenartists.com/en/artiste/antoinette-lubaki/
• ALT2: ... that Congo's first named woman artist Antoinette Lubaki painted her watercolours by candlelight at night, as no stories were allowed to be told during the day? Source: https://awarewomenartists.com/en/artiste/antoinette-lubaki/
• Reviewed:

MumphingSquirrel (talk) 13:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC).

• Hello I will review this. New enough and long enough. Please could you check the edits I made.

I cannot find the original and ALT1 hooks in the cite above. Re ALT2 source says 'It is said that ...." so ALT2 would have to be modified but I would still find it interesting. Would you like to suggest an ALT3 based on ALT2 or shall I? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Nice article - awaiting your response to above and my edits Chidgk1 (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi, thanks! would below work for an alt 3. ALT3: ... that it is said that Congo's first woman artist Antoinette Lubaki painted her watercolours by candlelight at night, as no stories were allowed to be told during daylight? Source: https://awarewomenartists.com/en/artiste/antoinette-lubaki/ MumphingSquirrel (talk) 19:50, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

That looks better - I would just like to tweak slightly to

ALT4: ... that it is said that Congo's first named woman artist Antoinette Lubaki painted her watercolours by candlelight at night, as no stories were allowed to be told during daylight?

@MumphingSquirrel: Ah I see now that the original and ALT1 hooks are supported by other cites in the article so if you prefer you could modify them. Also please could you cite or remove the 2 statements I tagged in the article. Hi, @Chidgk1: cites added. Happy to go with ALT 4

@MumphingSquirrel: Thanks for citing her other name. Sorry for being picky but I am not sure I am allowed to approve ALT4 myself as I wrote part of it, so I have asked for second reviewer to approve it. Also I am not sure that youtube vid is a reliable source - the second reviewer might also be able to comment on that. Do you know whether "KCongo Art" who made it are reliable? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:35, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Requesting second reviewer to finish off - very little more to do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chidgk1 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: have removed "KCongo Art" as has been made private. Was created by an arts organisation but can't check it for details now as access has disappeared. Thanks for your help! MumphingSquirrel (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 1

Penstemon harringtonii, Harold Harrington

• Penstemon harringtonii
• Harold Harrington

• ... that despite collecting plant specimens not to identify new species, Harold Harrington was the first to collect a species that would be named for him?

• Source:

• Reviewed: 1.) Template:Did you know nominations/Jonna Adlerteg, 2.) Template:Did you know nominations/Swim School

Pbritti (talk) 21:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

• That's really stilted. How about: ALT1:... that even though Harold Harrington hadn't intended to collect new plant species, he was the first to collect a species that was later named for him? DS (talk) 01:26, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

ALT1 violates WP:N'T. I plan on reviewing both of these in the next 18 hours.--Launchballer 20:21, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Long enough, new enough. The facts check out for both hooks; it just needs tweaking. Both QPQs check out and Earwig is clean for both articles. {{Botanist}} probably shouldn't be where it is on Harold Harrington and I think it should be moved.--Launchballer 04:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: thanks for the review! I didn't add the botanist template and I've removed it as it strikes me as a peculiarly formatted one. When you say the hook should be tweaked, are you talking about phrasing? ~ Pbritti (talk) 05:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Got it in one. (If I suggest something, I'll want to add something, which would require another reviewer.)--Launchballer 05:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Let's try ALT2 on for size:

• ... that Harold Harrington did not seek out new species but was the first to collect a plant named for him?

Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Fossils of Finland

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• Article history

• ... that fossils have Finland?

• Source: https://www.google.ru/books/edition/Precambrian_Geology_of_Finland/3D5R3vexH1sC?hl=en&gbpv=1

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fossils of Finland
  • Comment: hello!

DogWorldLive64 (talk) 10:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC).

• Hello and welcome to DYK. Right now, Fossils of Finland is only 235 characters long, far below the 1,500 character minimum requirement. The article's wording is also in need of a copyedit. As this appears to be your first nomination and English doesn't seem to be your first language, we can be lenient and give the article a week to be brought up to standards. If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to ask for advice over at WT:DYK. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

It has been almost a week since the nomination, but the article has not made any edits to the article, nor did they properly respond to the above. As the article is nowhere near a state appropriate for DYK and also now has a notability tag, this nomination is marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@GeorgiaHuman: has beefed this up to 899 characters. Would you be interested in expanding further?--Launchballer 11:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: I see that you proposed the article for deletion (which DogWorldLive64 then removed). Maybe an AFD is needed to address the notability concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

It seems to me that the DogWorldLive64 profile (used to create/nominate this title) has primarily been used for disruptive editing. And, while "the creator also engaged in vandalism" is not strictly one of the WP:DYKRULES, three of the five WP:DYKAIMs are to: 'showcase' new/improved/quality content, to 'acknowledge' the work of the creating editor, and to 'encourage' such behaviours and recruit others to do the same. Personally I don't think DYK nom is one that deserves/warrants 'showcasing' or the related behaviours should be 'acknowledged' or 'encouraged'. Whatever about an AfD, I think this DYK should be closed/rejected. As an extension of WP:DENY. Guliolopez (talk) 15:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Which would be a good point, however this was started off by that user as a 200-odd character stub and would now be eligible as a 5x expansion by a different user. (It's currently just over 1,400; might finish the job when I'm feeling less spaced out.)--Launchballer 15:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 2

Dirini

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• ... that the relationship between the Dirini (example pictured) and its closest relative has been described by researchers as "odd"?

• Source: "The only member of the genus Mantaria, Mantaria hercyna (= maculata), is confirmed to be the sister taxon to the Dirini. This is odd because the species is Neotropical, and it is estimated to have diverged from the Dirini at least 40 Ma, when South America was several thousand kilometres off the southern African coast" Price, Ben W.; Villet, Martin H.; Walton, Shaun M.; Barker, Nigel P. (April 2011). "Using molecules and morphology to infer the phylogenetic relationships and evolutionary history of the Dirini (Nymphalidae: Satyrinae), a tribe of butterflies endemic to Southern Africa". Systematic Entomology. 36 (2): 300–316. doi:10.1111/j.1365-3113.2010.00560.x. Retrieved 29 December 2024.

• ALT1: ... that the African Dirini (example pictured) diverged from its closest relative when South America was thousands of kilometres away from the African coast? Source: Same as above
• ALT2: ... that its closest relative of the African Dirini (example pictured) is from South America? Source: Same as above
• ALT3: ... that all but one member of the Dirini (example pictured) is found in South Africa and Lesotho? Source: "Amongst the African satyrine butterflies, the tribe Dirini Verity is distinctive for its remarkable degree of endemism. All 28 nominal species (Table 1) occur only in South Africa or Lesotho (Fig. 1), except one that extends into eastern Zimbabwe, even though the tribe is at least 25 million years old" Price, Ben W.; Villet, Martin H.; Walton, Shaun M.; Barker, Nigel P. (April 2011). "Using molecules and morphology to infer the phylogenetic relationships and evolutionary history of the Dirini (Nymphalidae: Satyrinae), a tribe of butterflies endemic to Southern Africa". Systematic Entomology. 36 (2): 300–316. doi:10.1111/j.1365-3113.2010.00560.x. Retrieved 29 December 2024.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sher Machado
• Comment: Thank you in advance to the reviewer for their time and hard work! I have three re-wordings of the same hook for ALT0-2, but if there is an alternative wording, I would be more than happy to hear it through! As a note: the source says "sister taxon" but I've used the more approachable wording "closest relative." The key point is that this entirely Southern African group's closest relative is from South America, and the divergence was when South America was quite far away from Africa when this happened.

Ornithoptera (talk) 06:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC).

• Comment just wondering (for my own curiosity) if the Latin name needs to be in the brackets, if it's in the image caption? Lajmmoore (talk) 11:17, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

• Good question Lajmmoore, my line of thinking was that since the Dirini are a tribe of butterflies rather than a single species, I felt the need to specify the genus/species in the pictured term. Since, in my view, a simple "pictured" wouldn't make sense for a group of several genera. However, since most DYK nominations are for a single species rather than a higher level classification, I'm not sure if there is a precedent to work off of. Though, it may be a more elegant solution to just have the "pictured" and then retain the image caption. I'm not entirely sure. Ornithoptera (talk) 17:12, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Long enough, new enough. Image checks out (I believe the phrase you're looking for is "example pictured"). ALT0 is by far the most interesting hook and checks out AGF. Earwig picks up only WP:LIMITED phrases. One question before I promote; why does Dirini need to be capitalised?--Launchballer 17:09, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi Launchballer, thank you for the feedback. I'll adjust the hooks to say "example pictured." To answer your question, "Dirini" is a proper noun, the name for a tribe, and thus is capitalized. Per the Florida State University here (download link ahead), it is standard practice for the genus level and above to be capitalized. There is an alternative form of the names that are typically lowercase (frankly I'm not familiar with the proper grammatical term for this, but I am familiar with its usage, possibly lemma?) such as: amathusiine for Amathusiini and satyrine for Satyrini, but "dirine" for Dirini has been too few and far between (I think I saw a single source) for me to really use it. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Klerykal fiction

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• Article history

• ... that the Polish subgenre of speculative fiction known as klerykal fiction emerged in the 1990s as a response to societal fears of church influence in politics? Source: see sources cited at the end of the sentence: " its period of popularity is attributed to the first half of the 1990s. In Poland, this period was characterized by, among other things, a decline in public trust in the church, combined with the church's entry into politics, which led to the emergence of anti-church movements."
  • ALT1: ... that Polish klerykal fiction has been described as both a critique of institutionalized religiosity and an artistic response to neoconservative views? Source: Mazurkiewicz, Adam (2014). "Fantastyka religijna jako zjawisko osobne (rekonesans)". In Leś, Mariusz M.; Stasiewicz, Piotr (eds.). Motywy religijne we współczesnej fantastyce (in Polish). Białystok: Wydawnictwo Uniwersytetu w Białymstoku. pp. 33–50
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Di Algemeyne Entsiklopedye
  • Comment: Disclaimer & trivia. I asked ChatGPT to generate hooks as an experiment, feeding it DYK guidelines on hooks and the article's text. I think these two turned out nicely (I just needed to match the claims with the sources).

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC).

Roller disco

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• ... that Cher, Prince, Grace Jones, Madonna, and Olivia Newton-John all participated in the 1979 roller disco craze?

• Source: "Undiscarded: Stories of New York: Ep7 – Rollerskate". The City Reliquary. 2023-05-17. Archived from the original on January 3, 2025. Retrieved 2025-01-03. https://web.archive.org/web/20250103154034/https://www.cityreliquary.org/undiscarded-rollerskate/ -- " Mr. Charisma’s (another moniker for Mr. Butler) stylish tricks and effortless skating style (Brooklyn Bounce, Wobbly Duck) made the rink a HOT destination and drew storied celebrities away from the snooty uptown clubs (Studio 54) down to the warm & accepting Brooklyn Rink. Most famously Cher herself" ............. Other celebrities source: Reaven, M., Zeitlin, S. (2006). Hidden New York: A Guide to Places That Matter. Rutgers University Press, 114. Ortiz, Lori. (2011) Disco Dance. ABC-CLIO, 127.

• ALT1: ... that The Kalamazoo News described the "Disco Dip" as "the pioneering roller disco record" of 1979? Source: "Faster Than Sound". Kalamazoo News. 15 November 1979. p. 16. Retrieved 2025-01-02. "The “Disco Dip," created by Ed Chalpin of PPX Enterprises, has until now been credited as the pioneering roller disco record. But according to A stound-A Sound Productions, a small New Jersey-based company, its “Roller Palace”.beat out Chalpin's product by one day.....Squabble, squabble. Everybody wants to be credited for jumping on the bandwagon first."
• ALT2: ... that at the height of the roller disco craze of 1979, there were an estimated "5,000 roller rinks in the U.S.," attracting "more than 28 million young American skaters"? Source: "Brooklyn Sees New 'Disco Dip'". Billboard. 1979-02-17. p. 70. https://books.google.com/books?id=LSUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT97&dq=%22disco+dip%22+wktu&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0h4mh89eKAxUVvokEHTbsDzEQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22disco%20dip%22%20wktu&f=false "There are an estimated 5,000 roller rinks in the U.S. They reportedly attract more than 28 million young American skaters. According to Chalpin, 99.9% of these rinks are already programming disco music either in whole or in part."
• ALT3: ... that during the roller disco craze of 1979, Mr. Charisma's "stylish tricks" made the Empire Roller Disco "a HOT destination"? Source: "Undiscarded: Stories of New York: Ep7 – Rollerskate". The City Reliquary. 2023-05-17. Archived from the original on January 3, 2025. Retrieved 2025-01-03. https://www.cityreliquary.org/undiscarded-rollerskate/ "Mr. Charisma’s (another moniker for Mr. Butler) stylish tricks and effortless skating style (Brooklyn Bounce, Wobbly Duck) made the rink a HOT destination and drew storied celebrities away from the snooty uptown clubs (Studio 54) down to the warm & accepting Brooklyn Rink. Most famously Cher herself"
• Reviewed:

Evedawn99 (talk) 15:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC).

• This is good work, Evedawn99, but the article has not been expanded fivefold. The article has the potential to produce very good hooks, however. Perhaps you should aim for improving it to GA status and then nominate it again. Surtsicna (talk) 00:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
  • To be more precise, the article previously had 2219 prose characters, so a 5× expansion would require 11095 prose characters, and currently has just under half that, at 5418. Unless it can be expanded by another 5677 prose characters, and very quickly, it will not qualify for DYK. Surtsicna's recommendation may be the best way for it to become eligible. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    • @Evedawn99: Please respond to the above. The current nomination is likely to be rejected, but will you be willing to bring the article to GA status and renominate it for DYK then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
      • Hi all, thank you so much for reviewing! I will do my best to contribute more research in the meantime regarding various specific roller discos to see if I can get it to GA status and 11095 prose characters, likely tomorrow when I have computer access, but I understand if this article misses the nomination. Thanks again everyone for the support, and I appreciate your breakdown regarding the current fivefold ineligibility. I will do my best to see if I am able to allocate and contribute the appropriate amount of research tomorrow.Evedawn99 (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
      • Hi everyone, I am currently expanding the article with more factual information from several new sources. I cannot figure out how to count the prosesize, but it is currently 6,555 bytes larger than it was yesterday. I will continue to expand the article as I feel is appropriate, but I wanted to update on my progress so far. Evedawn99 (talk) 16:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
      • Up to 27,296 bytes (up 11,333 bytes since yesterday) with plenty of added research! Does it qualify quite yet? Please let me know and thanks again. Evedawn99 (talk) 20:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
        • @Evedawn99: To qualify for GA status, an article has to be first nominated over at WP:GAN. Note that nominations can take weeks or even months to be reviewed, so please be patient after nominating. However, once GA status has been given, the article can be renominated for DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
          • Evedawn99, not quite yet, though you've made great progress. You're up to 9515 prose characters (an increase of 7296), with 11095 your goal, so another 1580 prose characters are needed to make a fivefold expansion. (Note to Narutolovehinata5: Evedawn99 is attempting a 5x expansion still, and is already over 4x. No GA needed at this rate.) Keep up the good work! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Chinese sanctions

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• Article history

• ... that China has sanctioned over 100 foreign individuals and entities with asset freezes and other restrictions due to alleged interference with China's sovereignty?

• Source: https://iclg.com/practice-areas/sanctions/china
  Sanction reasons included interference with sovereignty, selling weapons to Taiwan and imposing unilateral sanctions related to Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Until August 2024, over 100 individuals and entities have been placed on the list.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lao Lishi

haha169 (talk) 16:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

Fatima Payman

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• Article history

• ... that Fatima Payman (pictured) is the first member of the Parliament of Australia to wear a hijab?

• Source: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jun/21/i-want-to-normalise-hijab-wearing-was-newest-labor-senator-on-making-history

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Maluseu Doris Tulifau

GraziePrego (talk) 07:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

• While stated in the lead, the hook's fact is not sourced in the lead and is wholly unmentioned in the body. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Pbritti does my edit at Special:Diff/1268309867 suffice to satisfy your concern? TarnishedPath 04:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@TarnishedPath: Looks good! I'm going to do a quick review of the article when I have fresh eyes and should have this approved by the end of the day UTC. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Pbritti: lol on your edit at Special:Diff/1268313206. Actually I was almost going to do this DYK review because I have some articles coming up in the future that I will need QPQ for, but then I realised that I couldn't because I had edited the article a bit. Anyway when I was going to review it, I did a bit of googling about another Australian politician named Pauline Hanson to determine if she was the first female to wear a hijab because a number of years ago in an act of racist belligerence she's decided to wear a Burqa in parliament. Anyway I was glad at the time to see that Hanson wasn't the first to female to wear a hijab in parliament. TarnishedPath 05:11, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi TarnishedPath, just wanted to double check if were you intending to follow through on reviewing Payman's article? If so, I'll leave you to it, but if not, I would love to take a look at it when I have the time to this week! Ornithoptera (talk) 18:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ornithoptera as I wrote above, I can't because I've edited the article. Also I think Pbritti is already in the middle of reviewing it. TarnishedPath 23:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Elisheva Biernoff

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Elisheva Biernoff paints recreations of found vintage snapshot photographs, including details like lens flare and overexposure? Source: The New Yorker: "Working from found photographs—snapshots—Biernoff creates works that match, in size, scale, and color, what she sees in the original images." Artforum: "For more than a decade, Elisheva Biernoff has painted exquisitely uncanny trompe l’oeil re-creations of vintage found photographs. Taken as a group, the snapshots on which she bases her works are of no great distinction. Some feature a failure of some kind—overexposure, lens flare, water damage, the accidental intrusion of a foot into the frame, or the glaring reflection of a flash on glass or mirror."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Hangover (Suzanne Valadon)

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on January 3

Jailson Mendes

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• Article history

• ... that Jailson Mendes had to gain weight for his first porn film?
  • ALT0a: ... that a bear had to gain weight for his first porn film?
  • ALT1: ... that Jailson Mendes entered the porn industry after a couple randomly approached him?
  • ALT2: ... that a porn star's "hysterically bizarre performance" became one of the most widely spread memes in Brazil?
  • ALT3: ... that a porn star received the nickname "Family Man"?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sugya
  • Comment: Driveby nom. ALT0a is intended for April Fools' Day.

Launchballer 15:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC).

Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture

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• Article history

• ... that the exhibition Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture highlighted traditional artworks like masks (pictured) from Tanzania?

• Source:

• ALT1: ... that the exhibition Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture refuted the alleged scarcity of figurative art (pictured) in Tanzania? Source:
• Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/2024_Masyaf_raid
• Comment: Largest exhibition on traditional artworks from Tanzania ever, catalogue out of print, with original versions in German and Swahili. This article on the en-WP fills a gap.

Munfarid1 (talk) 12:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

• Note: This is one of the best hook images I've ever seen. I hope it runs in the top slot. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

• @Munfarid1: I am looking closely at your article. Can you confirm that the image in the hook (Makonde mask from Tanzania) appeared at the Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture exhibition? Viriditas (talk) 22:27, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

• Thanks for pointing this out. Actually, the only sculpture from the exhibition on Wikimedia is the Sukuma mask I have now exchanged for the first image of a Makonde mask.- I hope this works just as well. (This mask was sold to Stanford Museum by the Jahn gallery after the exhibition took place. I have checked it in the catalogue and this provenance is mentioned on the museum's image file.

• I want to congratulate you on covering such an important topic. One thing that stands out is the structure and composition related to this exhibition. Misplaced Pages has hundreds of such articles, covering some of the most popular as well as some of the most obscure art exhibitions in history. I would say that none of them are written in this style. Although your article doesn't diverge all that much from best practices, it does do a few things that are unusual that I can go into, but I think it would be more helpful for you to take a look at how other articles cover the subject. One way to do this is to explore Category:Art exhibitions by country. You will find some commonalities in the structure of sections. These include history, floor plan, exhibits, themes, legacy, list of artists, images, and other sections. Catalogues are generally used as sources, not as their own focus. I think the content you added here works, but the way you structure it should not be around the catalog as you do, but around the exhibition itself. It's a subtle change in focus that wouldn't require much modification. It would also take the focus off the authors and put it back on to the art exhibits. Viriditas (talk) 23:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

• I will answer on the article's talk page, as this complex idea does not stricly relate to the DYK nomination.

• I will respond there. Viriditas (talk) 19:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer requested. Viriditas (talk) 20:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Wielka, większa i największa

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• Article history

• ... that Polish 1960 sci-fi novel Wielka, większa i największa was very influential for Polish young adult literature? Source: multiple scholarly sources, with several quotations, all grouped in the section 'Milestone in Polish youth fiction' (but I am afraid all in Polish and few digitized, I was working with scans for the most part...).
  • ALT1: ... that Polish 1960 sci-fi novel Wielka, większa i największa was very influential for Polish young adult literature and has been a compulsory or recommended reading in Polish schools for many decades? Source: for additional sources regarding compulsory/recommended status, see 'Awards and recognition' section
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Organization of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
  • Comment: 2nd hook is longer but contains another interesting claim, plus most English readers are probably not familiar with the concept of compulsory reading...

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on January 4

Christian death metal

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Christian death metal has been called the least likely musical development at the close of the 20th century?

• Source: https://www.allmusic.com/album/yo%21-mw0000413777

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alice of Antioch
  • Comment: I re-created this from the redirect. The article content is over 10x expanded from its previous greatest size prior to conversion into redirect.

3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC).

• This might be the most epic hook among the current nominations, and I suspect that even better hooks might be produced from the article. I hope someone more knowledgeable than me will take this on soon enough. Surtsicna (talk) 17:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

If there's any more interesting, feel free to suggest.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 18:34, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Jama Masjid, Hyderabad

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• ... that the Jama Masjid was the first congregational mosque in Hyderabad?

• Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169. Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main r o a d, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.

• ALT1: ... that the Jama Masjid was the first mosque to be built in Hyderabad? Source: Campbell, A. C. (1898). Glimpses of the Nizams Dominions. pp. 168–169. Close to the Char Minar, on the left of the main road, approached by a very narrow lane, is the Juma Musjid, erected by Sultan Mahomed Kuli in 1598. This is the oldest musjid in Hyderabad.
• ALT2: ... that the inscriptions of the Jama Masjid, Hyderabad "may compare favorably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries"? Source: Yazdani, Ghulam (1921). Epigraphia Indo-Moslemica, 1917-18. Calcutta: Superintendent Government Printing, India. p. 43. The bold sweeping curves and fine, crisp vertical and horizontal stroke of these inscriptions exhibit art of a high order and they may compare favourably with the best calligraphic specimens of other countries.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emmanuel (emu)

AmateurHi$torian (talk) 15:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC).

• The article falls short of a fivefold expansion even when I count the lead section, which repeats information from the rest of the article. Therefore it does not yet qualify for DYK. Surtsicna (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: This version when I started the expansion had 789 characters (136 words), and the article now has 4154 characters (703 words), according to DYKCheck.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 17:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

You are right. I only see 3442 characters when the lead is not counted, however. Would it be possible to add 500 more? I would also suggest improving the citation style; rather than putting all the citations at the end of the paragraph, try putting them right after the sentence to which they relate. I am looking forward to reading a bit more about the masjid. Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: Article is now 4718 characters (will be approximately 4000+ when the lead is excluded) according to DYKCheck, and I've added inline citations within paragraphs.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, AmateurHi$torian! I started with a source spot check. Citation #4 does not seem to cover the first paragraph of the first section (coincidentally where the hook comes from), unless I am missing something. It explicitly says the opposite, that it was not the first mosque, and it does not mention "congregational" at all. Surtsicna (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: Ah, I've just noticed that Sherwani calls the prayer-hall in Charminar a "mosque". This interpretation would make the Jama Masjid the second mosque of the city, so I'll strike the first two hooks. I've altered the article to the same effect. The word "congregational" is used in the second paragraph, and the source for that is #5 (Bilgrami) already cited within the paragraph, who calls it an assembly mosque. AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Alternate hooks can be ALT3: "... the short height of the minarets of the Jama Masjid, Hyderabad might have been deliberate, in order to emphasize the loftiness of the nearby Char Kaman and Charminar?" or ALT4: "...the the Jama Masjid was one of the first mosques to be built in Hyderabad?", the source for both these hooks being Sherwani p. 30 and 29 respectively.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Fixed the issue with the first paragraph and a couple other citation issues.AmateurHi$torian (talk) 00:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

So far so good. The article is now clearly sufficiently expanded. It is certainly comprehensive and well sourced. I should also note that the expansion is recent enough and that I have not detected any close paraphrasing. I think there is an even more interesting hook hiding in the article:

• ALT5: ... that Wolseley Haig noted that it was not the "city's huge mosque" but the "far less pretentious" Jama Masjid that served as the congregational mosque in Hyderabad?

I believe this would be the most successful of the proposed hooks, but it should be approved by another reviewer. Your thoughts are obviously welcome, AmateurHi$torian. Surtsicna (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't have any issue with ALT5. Thanks for taking the time to review this :) AmateurHi$torian (talk) 16:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 5

Council of Tripoli

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that summons to the Council of Tripoli were issued in the name of the Church to bypass the issue of whether a king could summon a prince?
  Source: "But Tancred owed no allegiance to king Baldwin. Therefore Baldwin summoned him in the high name of the church of Jerusalem..." (Fink 1969, p. 397)
  • ALT1: ... that, whether consciously or by chance, the Council of Tripoli revived the border between two uninvolved states?
  • ALT2: ... that the Council of Tripoli has been interpreted as a sign of a "formal confraternity" between the Christian rulers of the Middle East?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Reactions to the 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses
  • Comment: Nominating Borsoka's work which I just noticed. Hopefully it can be forgiven for being a bit stale.

Surtsicna (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC).

• I really like ALT0 but all should be good as far as interest goes. I'm personally fine with giving a few days leeway on the nomination as well. Would you be able to pull the sources for the hooks? And place them here? I'm fine with looking for them myself but it'll be best for then prep builders and queuers will be working on it as well. ~Darth Stabro 02:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Certainly, Darth Stabro. Cited for ALT0, which I too think is best. Surtsicna (talk) 08:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Ian Wolstenholme

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Ian Wolstenholme, when playing in goal for Enfield, saved a penalty kick late into extra time in the 1967 FA Amateur Cup final at Wembley Stadium?

• Source: https://www.enfieldindependent.co.uk/sport/14662891.enfield-town-win-commemorative-friendly-over-skelmersdale-united/

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bugia (candlestick)

Mattythewhite (talk) 16:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC).

• The hook may need some copyediting or revising. There are too many blue links which are likely to distract from the main point. In addition, the hook as currently written might be too technical for readers who are unfamiliar with association football or soccer. Perhaps someone like SounderBruce could assist with a hook and suggest more layperson-friendly wordings? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:57, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
  • It's also not that interesting compared to another fact in the article. ALT1: ... that English footballer Ian Wolstenholme once saved three penalty kicks in a 1966 match? SounderBruce 03:16, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not really sure either. Isn't it not uncommon for players to save multiple penalty kicks per game? I think even doing it twice in a game is relatively common. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

From my experience of following football I'd say it's very rare for a goalkeeper to save three penalty kicks in the same match. According to this clever looking piece of research, there's a 14.7% chance of a goalkeeper saving a penalty. I've not got the brain capacity to work out the chance of saving three based on this but I'd imagine it's pretty slim. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Effects of Typhoon Yagi in Vietnam

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that after Typhoon Yagi in Vietnam, Haiphong and Quảng Ninh Province declined government funding for recovery efforts despite being the most devastated regions?

• Source: https://vnexpress.net/hai-phong-quang-ninh-nhuong-200-ty-dong-cho-dia-phuong-khac-khac-phuc-hau-qua-bao-yagi-4791367.html (in Vietnamese)

• Reviewed:

wolf20482 🐺 (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC).

Darren Moore

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Darren Moore (pictured) walked the Great Wall of China to raise money for good causes in Africa?

• Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/content/articles/2005/05/20/china_challenge_feature.shtml

• ALT1: ... that Darren Moore (pictured) led Sheffield Wednesday to promotion after they lost their play-off semi-final first leg by a four goal margin? Source: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-secure-huge-club-record-and-condemn-derby-county-to-another-season-of-league-one-4133552 https://www.skysports.com/football/sheffield-wednesday-vs-peterborough-united/482285
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1453

EchetusXe 17:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on January 6

Ayn al-Kurum, Annab

• Ayn al-Kurum
• Annab

• ... that evading the Ottoman authorities' pursuit for leading a local rebellion, the Ibn Shillif brothers found safe haven in the Alawite villages of Ayn al-Kurum and Annab?

• Source: Winter, Stefan (2016). A History of the 'Alawis: From Medieval Aleppo to the Turkish Republic. Princeton and Oxford: Princeton University Press. p. 135

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ard-al-Moharbeen necropolis; Template:Did you know nominations/Walter III Brisebarre

Al Ameer (talk) 20:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC).

• @Al Ameer son: Per new rules, QPQs should be provided before or at nom. Since this is a double nom, please provide a second one ASAP or this will be closed without warning. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

• Thanks Miraclepine#top, second QPQ added. Reviews underway. Al Ameer (talk) 19:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

2025 Orange Bowl

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that in the 2025 Orange Bowl, Jeter scored the winning points to send his team to the championship? Source: Reuters
  • ALT1: ... that when the Notre Dame Fighting Irish won the 2025 Orange Bowl, Marcus Freeman became the first Asian and first Black head coach to earn a spot in an FBS national championship game? Source: NBC News
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2019 NFC Championship Game
  • Comment: First hook is an attempt at a quirky (Derek Jeter is the more famous Jeter). The expansion was from this version (454 words, per my word counter) to this version (2312 words, per my word counter), though I am going to add more content in the next few hours regarding aftermath, which will further the expansion.

— Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:20, 13 January 2025 (UTC).

Hans Dieter Beck

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) usually used a bicycle to work as a leader of C. H. Beck legal publishing, running the family business in the sixth generation, until age 92? Source:
  • Reviewed: Grininke Beymelekh

Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC).

• The hook is actually interesting, but it lacks focus due to being too long and trying to fit in too many facts into one hook. Suggesting a split into two separate hooks, with the decision on what hook to use to be left to the reviewer:

ALT1 ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) usually used a bicycle to work as a leader of C. H. Beck legal publishing?

ALT2 ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) ran his family business, the C. H. Beck legal publishing house, until the age of 92?

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the offers, but how about leaving the fact in that I found most stunning: that the used the bicycle until age 92, a few weeks before he died while in office? + I find the office more interesting when knowing what kind of long-run family tradition there is behind it, and he one of two leaders, from 1973. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

ALT3 ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) rode a bicycle to work until shortly before his death at the age of 92?

ALT3a ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured), one of the two leaders of C. H. Beck, rode a bicycle to work until shortly before his death at the age of 92?

Maybe that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for trying, but I'm not happy with wasting characters on mentioning his death, - work at age 92 seems impressive enough, and then in a company-leading function. ALT3a is closer to what I'd like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

I too prefer the original, but it is rather long. How about the following rearrangement:

ALT4 ... that as co-head of the publisher C. H. Beck, Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) rode a bicycle to work until he was 92?

-- Hoary (talk) 23:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

ALT4 sounds good and should resolve any concerns with the original hook while still taking into account the nom's wishes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

• Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Thymbra spicata

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that although the herb spiked savory is protected under Israeli law, the leaves of the plant are foraged by the local population, in preparation for making a spice mixture?

• Source: Shmida, Avi (2005). MAPA's Dictionary of Plants and Flowers in Israel (in Hebrew). Tel-Aviv: MAPA Publishers. p. 349 (Thymbra spicata). OCLC 716569354.; Tesdell, Omar, ed. (2018). Palestinian Wild Food Plants (النباتات البرية الغذائية الفلسطينية) (in English and Arabic). Rāmallāh: Markaz Khalīl al-Sakākīnī al-Thaqāfī. p. 58. ISBN 978-9950-385-72-6. OCLC 1050944096.

• Reviewed:
• Comment: I have submitted two individual sources; one showing that the plant is protected under Israeli law, and the other showing how that it is foraged by the locals between April and June. I will also begin working on my QPQ, in the article Deval Masjid.

Davidbena (talk) 16:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC).

• Comment, typically for DYK the target article is bolded and usually a single name would be chosen rather than both the common name and the scientific name. In addition, per MOS:COMMONNAME, the common name is rendered in lowercase. Thus, the best approach would be to have it as "spiked savory" for the purposes of the hook. Ornithoptera (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

 Done--Davidbena (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Sanity Code

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that in 1949, several athletic conferences, including the Southeastern Conference discussed withdrawing from the NCAA after the Sanity Code, which barred athletic scholarships, went into effect?

• Source: Pay for Play: A History of Big-Time College Athletic Reform (Discussion on withdrawal is on p. 97, while p. 93 includes the provision that financial aid be limited only to needs-based assistance)

• ALT1: ... that in 1949, the University of Virginia threatened to leave the National Collegiate Athletic Association if the Sanity Code, which barred athletic scholarhips, was not amended? Source: Pay for Play: A History of Big-Time College Athletic Reform, p. 97
• ALT2: ... that several universities and athletic conferences in the Southern United States were opposed to the NCAA's Sanity Code, a 1948 set of rules that barred athletic scholarhips? Source: Pay for Play: A History of Big-Time College Athletic Reform, p. 94; Where Football is King: A History of the SEC, p. 15
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Troupeau Bleu

JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC).

Reinstatement of capital punishment in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that the government of the Democratic Republic of the Congo executed 102 men identified as "urban bandits"?

• Source: ABC News

• Reviewed:

TNM101 (chat) 06:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC).

• Comment: Surely this article can be merged into Capital punishment in the Democratic Republic of the CongoAmateurHi$torian (talk) 19:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

But since there is so much reporting about the reinstatement itself, I think a separate article is warranted. Although, I do not oppose a merge. TNM101 (chat) 13:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Blow Up (French TV series)

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that when the French web series Blow Up briefly aired on television in 2014, its allotted airtime was too short to fit some of its episodes?

• Source: (in French) "'Blow Up' : les secrets de fabrication du webmag d'Arte" (transl. "'Blow Up': the secrets of the creation of the Arte webmag.") "Elle l'a diffusé une fois, en 2014, pendant six mois. C'était très intéressant, sauf qu'on m'avait imposé une durée de 4,10 minutes par vidéo. Pour certains formats, comme les 'Bio express', je pouvais m'en sortir. Mais pour les 'Top 5', il était impossible de comprimer les séquences." (transl. "It broadcast it once, in 2014, for six months. It was very interesting, except that I was given a duration of 4.10 minutes per video. For certain formats, like 'Bio express', I could get by. But for the 'Top 5', it was impossible to compress the sequences.")

• Reviewed:
• Comment: In the article, the fact is in the second paragraph of § Release. The citation is at the end of that paragraph.

–CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 05:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC).

• Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. QPQ is not needed for a nom with less than five nominations. I did not find close paraphrasing. Assuming good faith on the French sources. The hook and the article don't exactly match: the hook says episodes, but the article says it was formats that couldn't fit. However, given the intent, I'm willing to let it slide since the point is still essentially the same. A reference also has to be duplicated to the relevant sentence supporting the hook fact per WP:DYKHFC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:05, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, thank you for reviewing my nomination! I have added the citation as you suggested. Regarding your comment about the mismatching terms, the hook and the article are meant to reflect the same fact. As explained in § Overview, episodes of Blow Up come in various formats (e.g. "Bio express" and "Top 5"), so saying "a format" is equivalent to saying "episodes in a format". If you think this wording is confusing, let me know, and I can rewrite the sentence in the article. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 03:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

I would personally let it slide, but it could potentially become an issue at WT:DYK, so it might be better safe than sorry. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Ok. I think I will leave it for now because it is concise and it more closely matches the wording in the cited quote. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 19:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 7

Christopher Trychay, The Voices of Morebath, Churchwardens' accounts

• Christopher Trychay
• The Voices of Morebath
• Churchwardens' accounts

• ... that a 2002 book relies extensively on a 16th-century priest's churchwardens' accounts that include his support for a failed rebellion?

• Source:

• Reviewed: 1.) Template:Did you know nominations/Hodierna of Jerusalem, 2.) Template:Did you know nominations/Tesseropora rosea, 3.) Template:Did you know nominations/Fatima Payman

Pbritti (talk) 01:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on January 8

Peter Miller (photographer)

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that in 2014, photographer Peter Miller stated that the "Vermont Way" of grumbling and every so often remembering that "we live in beauty" was "coming to an end"?

• Source: "We self-employed Vermonters grumble but we have carried on and every so often we remember that we live in beauty. That’s the Vermont Way and I think it is coming to an end." VTDigger

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Elizabeth Schuyler Hamilton

Thriley (talk) 05:19, 17 January 2025 (UTC).

Directorate General of Higher Education

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that the bureau of higher education, the predecessor to the Directorate General of Higher Education, had to compete for funding against other, larger bureaus? Source: Thomas, Robert Murray (1973). A Chronicle of Indonesian Higher Education: The First Half Century, 1920-1970. Chopmen. pp. 180–181.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Spring Willow Society

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC).

Temujin Kensu

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that although nine alibi witnesses placed Temujin Kensu over 400 miles from a shooting in Port Huron, Michigan in November 1986, he was convicted of murder and has been in prison ever since?

• Source: Finley, Nolan (2019-12-26). "Finley: Decades in prison for murder he couldn't have committed". The Detroit News. Retrieved 2024-12-30.

• ALT1: ... that after Temujin Kensu was convicted of murder in 1987 and sentenced to life imprisonment, a juror told the press that "his alibi was too perfect"? Source: Brown, John F. (1987-05-19). "Freeman jury verdict took 5 votes". The Times Herald. Port Huron. p. 3 – via newspapers.com.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jindřich Marco
• Comment: Earwig shows some overlap with sources owing to use of verbatim quotes.

Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:17, 12 January 2025 (UTC).

Maria McDermottroe

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Irish actress Maria McDermottroe was Fortycoats' lilter? Source: https://stillslibrary.rte.ie/indexplus/image/2195/020.html
  • ALT1: ... that Irish actors Maria McDermottroe and her daughter Gina Costigan each portrayed the love interest of real-life criminals in 2003's Veronica Guerin? Source: https://www.farmersjournal.ie/entertainment/living-life-/pursuing-passions-354415 https://www.hotpress.com/culture/markievicz-park-4554045
  • ALT2: ... that Irish actors Maria McDermottroe and her daughter Gina Costigan each portrayed the love interest of real-life criminals in 2003's Veronica Guerin? Source: same
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 1975
  • Comment: If 2 QPQ is needed:Template:Did you know nominations/Pablo Busch

Bogger (talk) 13:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on January 9

California FAIR Plan

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that California FAIR Plan could have as much as $30 billion in total losses from the January 2025 Southern California wildfires with only $377 million available to pay out claims?

• Source: "Because of the fires that started last week, that linchpin may be about to break, with consequences that would reverberate throughout California’s economy. As of last Friday, the FAIR Plan had just $377 million available to pay claims, according to the office of Senator Alex Padilla, Democrat of California. It’s not yet known how much in claims the plan will face but the total insured losses from the fires so far has been estimated at as much as $30 billion. Because the fires are still burning, that number could grow. Unlike regular insurance companies, the FAIR Plan can’t refuse to cover homes just because they’re in vulnerable areas. As a result, as the risk of wildfires grows, homes deemed too dangerous by major insurers have been piling up on the FAIR Plan’s books. Between 2020 and 2024, the number of homes covered by the plan more than doubled, to almost half a million properties with a value that tripled to about half a trillion dollars."

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Riko Dan
  • Comment: Alt hooks welcome.

Thriley (talk) 20:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC).

Moneka, Kansas

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that most or all of the inhabitants of Moneka, Kansas, were abolitionists?

• Source: Stearns, J. H. (1912). "Moneka". In Martin, George W. (ed.). Collections of the Kansas State Historical Society, 1911–1912. Embracing Addresses at Annual Meetings; Some Review of Fifty Years; The Withdrawal of the Methodist Church, South, from Kansas; Blizzards, Earthquakes and Rainfall; The Kansas School Fund; The Route of Coronado; Crossing the Plains; The Soldier in Kansas; First Kansas at Wilson's Creek; A Beecher Island Diary; An Indian Fight in Ford County; First Capital of Territory; Lost Towns and Names; Personal Narrative. Vol. XII. State Printing Office, Topeka. pp. 429–430 – via Google Books.

• ALT1: ... that according to Oswald Garrison Villard, the abolitionist John Brown wrote his Parallels in Moneka, Kansas? Source: Villard, Oswald Garrison (1910). John Brown 1800–1859: A Biography Fifty Years After (2nd ed.). Houghton Mifflin Company, The Riverside Press Cambridge. p. 373–375 – via Google Books.
• Reviewed:

Aneirinn (talk) 16:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC).

ToNiePokój escape room fire

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that escape rooms in Poland were not required to be inspected by fire officials before the deaths of five teenagers in the ToNiePokój escape room fire?

• Source: "Podkreślił również, że działalność jaką jest escape room można założyć w ciągu jednego dnia i nie podlega ona obowiązkowi kontroli czy opiniowania ze strony straży pożarnej" ()

• ALT1: ... that the deaths of five teenagers in Poland in the ToNiePokój escape room fire led to inspections of escape rooms in Lithuania and Czechia? Source: " W związku z tragicznym pożarem escape roomu w Polsce z pięcioma ofiarami śmiertelnymi przeprowadzone zostaną kontrole podobnych obiektów w Czechach - poinformowali w poniedziałek przedstawiciele czeskiej straży pożarnej." (); " Po tragicznym pożarze w escape roomie w Koszalinie, w którym zginęło pięć nastolatek, litewscy strażacy we wtorek zapowiedzieli kontrole w tego typu placówkach działających na Litwie." ()
• Reviewed:

Grumpylawnchair (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2025 (UTC).

• Strongly recommend ALT1 (also, the past tense of "to lead" is "led"). DS (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Miles of Plancy

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that a contemporary chronicler does not dare say who assassinated Miles of Plancy (pictured), but a later source implicates an in-law?

• Source: Hamilton 1992, p. 140

• ALT1: ... that Miles of Plancy defended Gaza from the Egyptian army but let its people be killed and captured? Source: Lyons & Jackson 1984, p. 42
• ALT2: ... that Archbishop William thought Miles of Plancy to be "of degenerate morals", but wrote that he was noted for being loyal to death to their young and sickly king? Source: Hamilton 2000, p. 93
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/A Sentimental Journey Through France and Italy

Surtsicna (talk) 20:16, 13 January 2025 (UTC).

Alien Mus

• Comment or view
• Article history

• ... that Indonesians elected Alien as a representative, twice? Source: https://news.detik.com/berita/d-4546028/pleno-di-maluku-utara-prabowo-menang-pilpres-pdip-menang-pileg-dprd#!, https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2024/08/26/09300991/daftar-para-caleg-dpr-2024-2029-terpilih-yang-ditetapkan-kpu?page=all
  • ALT1: ... that Alien worked as a public relations officer before entering politics?
  • ALT2: ... that Alien is the member of a political family?
  • ALT3A: ... that Alien is married to a French citizen?
  • ALT3B: ... that a French citizen is married to Alien?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WMRT
  • Comment: Credits to Juxlos for the hook. Submitted for this year's AFD.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC).