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== Decisions in progress == == Decisions in progress ==


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*Delete - dictionary definition - ] 16:19, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Wiktionary material? - ] 16:31, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*It is usual to redirect proverbs to ] (or appropiate language of origin) because there is rarely much to say about them. This isn't really a proverb though... is there a similar appropiate list? Also it may need to be transwikied to wikiquote? ] ] 16:33, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete or improve: it is not even definition, or explanation. The article doesn't go beyond rephrasing the expression in 11 times more words (and not necessarily more clear ones than the phrase itself). ] 16:44, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* This should be moved to Wiktionary unless more can be said about it. ] is right; there needs to be more substance to this article if it is to be kept in Misplaced Pages (e.g. origins, historical usage, etc.)
* More can probably added to make it acceptable. In its current state it is a dicdef, and should be moved or deleted. ] 11:30, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* i added another meaning (an album). ] 08:49, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Is this 'turn of phrase' common everywhere? UK vs. US, etc.? If not, keep or have it redirect to general list. ] 14:07, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete ] 03:52, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
*Please delete. It's really not anything more than a definition, is it? ] 04:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Essentially POV. Straw man. Article by its own admission says that there is no stated ideology "terrist" but fails to really make other claim for significance. --] 19:18, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ]] 23:31, 2004 Mar 10 (UTC)
*Delete. Invented term. ] 02:51, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. What links here and a Google search shows that it's not a term invented here but is in real use. Needs to include examples of terrists and their acts, though. Our description of the point of view held by terrists seems to be NPOV. ] 05:40, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** A Google search turns up WP mirrors and misspellings of "terrorist". The what-links-here shows a number of articles in WP, which on closer examination all had the link to ] pasted in by an anonymous 142.77.xxx.xxx (the original author of ]), except for one change (]) which was due to ]. Delete: term not in general circulation. ] 06:56, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* I just pasted in the vfd header -- article didn't have one before. Oops! ] 06:59, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Based on Wile E Heresiarch's research, I vote delete. ] 05:07, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Wrong language, should be in pt:... I would move it there, but I am a new user and transwiki seems rather complicated... ] 20:46, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**I'd transwiki it, but pt: doesn't seem to have a transwiki log (or atleast a redirect from transwiki), so I don't know where to log this. ] 10:17, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Dictionary definition which is unlikely to ever be expanded. Should be wiktionaried and deleted. ] 22:58, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** Keep. unlikely why? it's linked to from many pages. (and no, I'm not just saying this because it's one of the things I ]) It's a central concept in eastern mysticism and western philosophy, including a long-standing place of honor in the Socratic tradition. move to Cleanup and expand. ]] 11:52, 2004 Mar 11 (UTC)
*Delete. Let me propose simple litmus test- if the article looks wrong without "(noun)" and a pronounciation key in front of it, then it's probably a candidate for speedy transwikification. - ] ] 23:11, Mar 10, 2004 (UTC)
*Wiktionary and delete. (We can always move those links across to ].) ] 15:36, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Reworked (not by me), still a stub and more work needed but coming along nicely. ] 13:32, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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] has departed Misplaced Pages and appears to have taken his photos of Athens with him. This page is now an eyesore and should be deleted. I have many photos of Athens myself, but not ones that could replace Optim's. In any case I don't really approve of "photo album" articles. ] 23:54, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. refer to the top of the ]. Those images are on the old servers. --]] 01:25, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Can we get some more pictures of said city? A lot of work went into this page; it'd be a shame to throw it away. -] 14:25, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Someone sometime will restore the images from the old servers. (I hope)] 21:55, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**I have now added ''Note: The photographs in this article are currently not available on Misplaced Pages. They will reappear sometime in the future.'' to the page. I also added the VFD message (which should always be placed there by the vfd poster!!) ] 14:47, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Restore images assuming proper permission was given, meantime be patient. ] 23:39, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*We need a status update on the lost images. That Village Pump notice has been there for 6 weeks at least. Are the photos coming back? If not, delete. ] ] 10:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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* Anyone even heard of Neil Ingebrigtsen? and google doesn't have relevant matches for twenteens. Looks like a vanity page.
* Dic def. of a neologism. Delete. ] 01:50, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 03:04, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Looks like someone trying to get their word accepted as a descriptive of some decade in the future. Absolute nonsense: delete ] 16:03, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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First sight is good, but is just yet another re-statement of opinions of ] / Expellees agenda. Pattern of developement of many articles about territories near German-Polish-Czech border:
*heavy POVed article with controversial title created
*weeks of disputes, protections, and/or edit wars
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*or - article turned into redirect
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Please read articles and history of ], ], ], ], ] and many redirects to them before voting.
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*Keep. The description of the areas involved and the beliefs of those whose view this represents appears to be accurate and appropriate. Their views aren't NPOV, of course, but this description of those views seems to be. ] 18:22, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*I'm undecided as to what to do with this page, but it should definitely be deleted from here. Either merge with ] or move to Wikibooks. ] 01:47, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*move to wikibooks and delete. --]]
*move to wikibooks and delete. Doesn't belong here. --] 17:07, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Del. I knew Cyrillic alphabet before, but after reading this got totally confused. --] ] 07:10, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Lacks substantial content. Is 4 words enough for an article? - ] 01:53, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Delete. It isn't even correct. ] 01:57, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: valid topic. I've replaced the mistaken text with a valid stub. I move for early removal from VfD. ] 16:06, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Keep. Agree. Should never have been listed, rather sub-stub should have been fixed or listed on ]. BTW, it was more than 4 words (just). ] 20:27, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*** Actually I think it's fine that it was listed here. The article got a lot of attention and now it looks really good. Everybody's happy. ] 01:43, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**** It's true that the article was fixed, and that's a good thing but you seem to have missed the point. We should either follow the policies or change them. I'm happy either way, but I'm not happy with what has happened here. ] 11:18, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: Critical link between light and electromagnetism in 19th century. Entry seems correct now. I will be adding more about relevance in radio transmission. Faraday effect modulators used in some scientific instruments.] 16:15, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. AJim is right... --] 17:48, 2004 Mar 11 (UTC)
*Keep. It's fine now, though expansion would be good. ] 18:23, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Misplaced Pages is not a ] to ] dictionary. ] 01:59, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*<strike>Delete unles it is re-written to be about the company in this important ] case: ]</strike> keep. -- ] 02:12, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: interesting, useful. ] 02:14, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Dicdef. ] 02:05, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, though it needs significant expansion to cover thehistory o the concept and well known examples. There's plenty of material for this encyclopedia article. Note also that it's linked from the list of encyclopedia topics. ] 18:27, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Now a good stub, with a link to the excellent article from a 1911 encyclopedia. Obviously a good topic. ] 13:23, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Can be improved upon but good basis for an article. ] 02:20, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Vanity. ] 02:07, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Famous. Move to cleanup for wikif'n, keep. ]] 11:43, 2004 Mar 11 (UTC)
*Seems famous enough, but the article is an advertisement. Cleanup. ] 11:54, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep and expand. This is a famous place. ] 18:28, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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* I'm not so much agitating deletion here as wondering what the policy is. This was created in November as ], a vanity page, by this user. It was going to be deleted a couple of weeks ago, but I moved it to the user namespace instead. The user has made ''no'' other contributions, and I tried to contact them (user talk and "email this user") to no avail. In the user namespace, it's ''still'' a vanity page. Do we allow this sort of thing? Or do we say that ] a homepage? Or does it really matter? -- ] 02:21, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** No vote. For WP policies on acceptable user page content, refer to : ] -- ] 02:24, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
** No vote. Thanks for the link, but that actually doesn't address the matter. The proposal for deletion there is only about requests to delete one's ''own'' pages (on ]). And there is nothing there about fake users (as John Highway seems to be). I suspect that this has come up before, but I don't know; I'm mostly interested in putting right something that I interfered in, rather than pushing some particular outcome. -- ] 02:33, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*I would say keep as long as he's a registered user. I deleted the trailing redirects from the main namespace. --]] 21:13, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. High time to think about idle time expiration policy for user accounts. I bet there are hundreds of them as of now. I can recall at least six met during my edits. ] 22:08, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. In the absence of a policy, decide cases on their merits. This case has no merits. The only edit he has ever made is this page, which isn't a contribution. But, I would be wary of any suggestion that we delete the accounts or user pages of contributors just because they have disappeared, no matter how long they have been MIA. ] 12:21, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Blank. I would say that, if he comes back to be a user, this would make it easy for him to revert his own user page and have it up -- it's a perfectly acceptable page if you're going to edit here. But if we leave it up intact, then he gets us freely hosting what ends up an advertisement for him (as it gets indexed by search engines, etc.). If he contributed here, I'd say he earned that right, but as long as this remains his only contribution here, I'd suggest blanking. ] 21:07, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Agree with blanking. ]] 01:08, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)


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*Yep. Del. ] 14:52, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Advertising ] 03:23, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. List on cleanup. Notable brands are valid WP topics: ], ]. -- ] 03:29, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. List on cleanup. Small but growing company that is apparently popular with celebrities (which may mean it turns out to be a fad). ] 03:41, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, and move to cleanup. --] 04:09, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. ] 07:48, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, good topic, good stub and sounds like good vodka... although I'm not convinced that good vodka ''has'' a taste, (;-> as the article clearly implies. I've added stub and vfd warnings, but I hope this could be delisted quickly. Looks like consensus to me. How about it, Richard? The page is far too long! ] 12:36, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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* Misplaced Pages is not a newspaper. ] 03:43, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** ]. It's been merged with its parent. Plus 11 straight championships isn't childs play, really, and its not news. The article merely commented on the most recent win in the dynasty. -- ]


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Self-promotional orphan? ] 08:41, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* 429 google hits for Sinukus, probably not enough for inclusion, but this could just be moved to cleanup insted, whether the person warrants inclusion ] 08:56, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*delete, self-promo --]]
*delete: personal promotion. ] 14:39, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*delete: shameless personal promotion ] 03:58, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


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*google gets only two hits . --] 08:39, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Not significant enough on his own. Perhaps merge with the caving school linked to in the page. ] 13:37, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*delete, vanity. --]] 21:05, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: nobody in particular. ] 07:15, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: I wonder whether we may soon be dealing with articles for the entire faculty of ]? ] 12:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Well, not much to say, . --] 08:50, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
* The same user created ], ] (already deleted) and ], given the relativly low profile all of these things I'd say they weren't encyclopedia worthy.
*Keep. Of regional interest; sounds like something useful to know if planning a visit in the area.] 13:15, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*delete. non-notable.--]] 21:04, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. ] 21:28, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: not notable. ] 07:14, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete -- Doovinator is right, but that only makes it a suitable article for ], not Misplaced Pages. ] 20:58, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Might be a redirect to ], but I do not think the ''!'' deserves it. ] 13:11, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Well, actually the expression used in books etc. is sic!, so I looked for sic! on wikipedia, didn't find it and somewhat translated the stuff from the german version (you can find 'sic!' there)
*Keep, but wikify and move to ] (which is a redirect to ] right now). Good information, more than what is on the disam page for ]. I've never seen it used with the ! though, so I think ] is a better home for it. ] can just redirect to it. &mdash;] 18:07, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
**Yes, it should be deleted, as it's based on a misunderstanding of what is and isn't the standard use of the term. ''Rarely'' found with an exclamation mark in my experience. ] 18:12, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***But what's wrong with just redirecting to ], the more common use of the term? &mdash;] 18:24, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete I don't think it's a good idea to have essentially the same definition in at least three different locations: ], ] and this page. It is nice to have some illustrations of usage, but that is more of a Wiktionary entry than encyclopedic. If anything this page should redirect to the list of Latin phrases. ] 18:27, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Redirect ]. ]] 01:08, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)


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*Vanity. ] 13:16, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**It helps if you add the <nowiki>{{subst:vfd}}</nowiki> tag to the article so that users know it's been listed: I just added the tag and listed the page again at the bottom of here, and only then saw that you'd already listed it. Anyway delete, they're nonfamous and they get no google hits. -- ] 15:47, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***Sorry, I forgot to do that. ] 16:46, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Delete. Zero Google hits. &mdash;] 18:28, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
**Delete--no google, no UBL, no Rolling Stone, no fame.


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* Huh? ] made it. -- ]
** It just moved, was FreeNet, not Freenet.


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Article made by vandal/troll user ]. I was able to find the school existed, but no other information was available. --] 15:51, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, list on cleanup. Irrespective of who created it the school exists. -- ] 16:07, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Haven't we decided we don't want to create articles on every little obscure school in the world? It exists, perhaps, but if it's not famous, I vote to the delete the bugger. &mdash;] 18:30, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - ] 18:50, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. ] 21:28, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete ] 23:44, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as disambig page (or as redir to disambig page ]). ''Millcreek'' gets almost 200,000 hits, and ''"Mill Creek"'' gets almost 600,000. It's the name of a city in Washington State, among other things. Neutral on whether this particular school should appear on such a page. ] 01:04, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Could not independently verify if this book was ever published. There is also a 1998 book ''Why Cows Moo'' by Catherine Ripley and Scot Ritchie, which does not appear to be particularly notable. --] 16:15, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
:It exists, but I think we need the information in the article to be verified as the edition I found was printed by a different comapny, with no date and a different number of pages. The person who wrote the article is still an active wikipedian so it's probably worth dropping them a note on their user page. --] 17:03, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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A one-line reference to a character in a movie. Linked to by only two pages: ] and ]. -] 16:54, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Keep. Now a disambig page. A very common mispelling of the name of ], a Google search finds it in more Australian Government sites than get it right! But there seem to be several others who may eventually get articles (my list is not complete) who really ''do'' have this name. ] 19:48, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Much better. I think we can keep this now. -] 21:26, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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A orphan vanity page about a 16-year old. -- ] 17:15, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Nothing but vanity.] 17:30, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Don't delete. He's a legendary wrestler in Connecticut, but as it is high school wrestling, you probably wouldn't know about him unless you live within the state.
**The one google news story that mentions him states ''Marc Perkins, who was 1-2 at 130''. Does that mean he lost twice?] 18:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep and wifiky. Alleges colorable basis for inclusion. --] 18:58, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - vanity - ] 18:00, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. vanity page.
*Keep. With a record like that, he must be locally famous, assuming it's true. ] 21:28, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Google on ''"Marc Perkins" wrestling'' gets five hits, not very "legendary." ] 22:14, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete unless verified/sourced. No hits for ''"Outstanding Wrestler Award" "marc perkins"'', nor ''"Jim Bean Service Award"''. And "legendary" when born in 1988? ] 00:53, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Vanity. ] | ] 03:04, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: vanity. Is it my imagination or do we get a lot of biographical articles about people born in the eighties? ] 07:07, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Delete - These seem like a vendetta against ]. References to defecating, masturbating, felatio, filthy, degenerate and being kicked for annoying other gods. All this and it says it is an Ashanti royal name derived from all that. Can anyone substantiate this questionable fairy tale? - ] 21:06, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**What a horrible piece of trash. Delete. -] 21:29, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Speedy delete, undelete if substantiated, which I'm guessing is unlikely. Needs NPOVing even if substantiated, which is one reason I'm guessing it is pure trash. And I note that the original author has now blanked ]. If substantiated and kept, ] should become a redirect. ] 23:59, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***Yeah to the above. Delete, although I'm not usre it's necessarily speedy delete. ] 00:47, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
****It would only be a ] if it's judged to be ], and I think there's a case for this but not such a strong one as to list it myself. ] 12:02, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Delete. Note also that ] is nonsense of a similar sort. ] 02:59, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Delete. Gets one Google hit -- to here. The ] article, however, seems quite legit. It gets 4000 hits, one of which is a Britannica article with which the Wiki article is in fundamental agreement. ] 19:12, 2004 Mar 14 (UTC)


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*Appears nonfamous -- ] | ] 22:02, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Probably keep. Yahoo has 18,000 hits for "Jonathan Zittrain", and over 100,000 for the "Berkman Center". ] 00:44, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Just barely important enough. ] 01:29, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. ]] 14:46, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)


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*Very POV and I don't think it can be cleaned up. ] 22:27, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**<s> Moink meant POV probably. ] 08:33, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)</s>
***Thanks. That's what I get for editing without enough sleep. ] 17:45, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. ] 00:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Delete or send to wikitonary. ] 05:17, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. The article doesn't even define the concept, for those (whoever they may be) who are unfamiliar with it. I think a psychological impacts/reasons for breaking up might be an interesting article, though. Perhaps the author has some ambition? -- ] 05:59, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. But radically edit. As it stands the article is POV and does not provide valuable information. Obviously, start with ''what'' "breaking up" is. --] 14:34, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Made up? No google hits. -- ] | ] 22:59, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Keep. At the very least a popular myth/rumor. someone should do some research and expand the stub.
**No vote. Not made up. Should probably be ] if it gets kept. Whether or not an article on this phenomenon can be more than a slang definition is another question.] 01:28, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**<strike>Neutral</strike>. <u>Wiktionary as "Blue balls" and delete this, unless someone adds a link to documentation/research that includes things like a medical term for it, how long does a guy have to be aroused without relief before it happens, how often does it happen, and generally provides enuf info that it could become a decent article</u>? Not made-up, just misspelled. As mentioned above, the content, if kept, should be at ]. A commonly used term (at least here in the US--dunno about other English-speaking countries), but as far as I know, little backed by science. If a "blue balls" article is created, this should probably redir to it (especially in case this phrasing is used in other countries for the same concept), so we don't go thru this again. ] 00:37, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***Only 135,000 hits, and, so far, most aren't related to this topic, but music, drinks, etc. Of the hits on the first 4 pages I looked at, only 10-15 related to this context, and most were fairly anecdotal, rather than medical/scientific. Page 3 had the first hit that seemed authoratative (from the Discovery Channel, and it's not very specific either--not one of their better articles. This one also seems more authoratative than most, but mostly just confirms the Discovery info. (search for hanne). Also, the fact that men regularly have sleeptime erections that can last hours makes it seem like this condition is probably fairly rare. ] 20:37, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)</u>
** Keep. Real, well documented, significant to the afflicted, reference at ]. Send to ] --]] 01:25, 2004 Mar 12 (UTC)
** Keep. Wrong name but real subject. -- ] 05:55, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
** Keep. Add to list of sexology topics and rewrite. ] 11:21, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
** Keep. Agree with rename and redirect. Important amd neglected topic of men's health. ] 11:41, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as disambig. I created a new ] article. There is no "offical name" for it; it is a form of "pelvic congestion," but not the only one. ] 05:59, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Toas}}
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*Nothing in the article indicates that he's at all significant. Orphan. ] 23:24, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. <strike>Probably keep, if improved. This guy may not be notable, but there have been at least two politicians with that first and last name--maybe a disambig page? ] 00:20, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)</strike> Upon closer examination of the 600,000 hits for just ''luis oliver'', I realized that virtually all either, A) Referred to a (probably) unnotable real estate agent, B) a (probably unnotable music producer, C) talked about someone named ''somethingorother'' Luis Oliver, or D) just happens to have the two names, unrelated, on the page. ] 22:34, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. --] 15:57, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, unless someone can suggest anything significant this person has achieved. ] 18:07, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: nobody in particular. ] 14:42, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Dictionary entry and could never become more then one. All of its contents already exists in ]. Not even needed as a redirect as it is not a word of English language. ] 09:01, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. The article covers the ''political'' context of the use of the name "Kosova", so it is not just a dictionary definition. It already links through to the article on ]. Also, voters should be aware that Nikola does not like using Albanian alternative placenames, for apparently nationalist reasons, and has systematically removed from them from Kosovo-related articles; this proposal for deletion should be considered in that light. -- ] 10:43, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* <!--Oppose-->Keep, for the same reasons as ChrisO. ] 10:58, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. In view of the controversy, it would be extremely POV to delete the Albanian spelling completely. The matter of removing the duplicated text (and it is) and/or of making it a redirect is not a VfD issue. ] 11:55, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, propaganda. ] 20:15, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep, valid article, context explained reasonably well. ] 02:16, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Agree with ChrisO. ] 12:35, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, valid entry. perhaps merge with Kosovo and Metohia and redirect. --]] 22:09, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, Albanian seperatists propaganda. Merge non-propaganda info with Kosovo and Metohia. Possibly redirect, but English name is Kosovo with an O, not an A. ]] 16:29, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Make it a redirect (to those saying there should be no redirect, please notice that there are close to half a million hits on google on this name). Move the contents of the article to a title that better describing the contents. Jor, there is nothing propagandistic about the article, and I take offense at your words (I'm Albanian, though not from Kosovo). Hopefully someday Kosovo will be independent (and perhaps the name changed), but until then the official name should be kept, otherwise we open a whole can of worms. ] | ] 16:49, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as a redirect, integrate with ] and watch that the content remains there. Alternatively, create a separate article "Names of Kosovo and Metohia", and integrate the content from ] and ]. No propaganda as it stands. ] 20:26, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Jerome_War_Relocation_Center}}
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Idiosyncratic and nonsensical twaddle. --] 00:16, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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* Delete. It appears to be real, but of no real significance. -- ] 00:19, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Bunk. ] 01:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. The is hosted on a free server and hasn't been updated since 1997. ] 02:18, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* . Adds nothing to the knowledge of mankinds. ] 10:18, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Neganose....er, I mean, delete. ;-) ] 20:52, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Tarppy}}
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The entire article consists of the fact that a particular professor has no comment on the oil crisis. (I translated into English this French-language silliness. Waste of my time...) -- ] 06:20, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
:Delete, seems to be pretty useless information -- ] 08:04, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Very odd. Delete. ] | ] 16:10, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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{{tl|VfD-Jochen_Köhler}}
* Delete; appears to be vanity. - ] 15:22, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. --] 17:59, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, this version was translated from an original German version that seemed to be a violation of copyrights. I have provided a more neutral German version but I will not keep any foreign language versions up-to-date. --] 20:19, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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{{tl|VfD-debate_White_nationalist_FAQ}}
* Delete; appears to be a vanity page. -- ] 15:52, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. ] | ] 16:09, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. --] 17:09, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. --] 17:59, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Not significant. ] 18:09, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Misplaced Pages should cover information you can't easily find elsewhere. ] 20:15, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, culturally insignificant to date. Fails Google test.] 02:22, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Just noticed she's from Brampton, like Nick Moreau, and seems even less famous. Both added by the same new user. ] 03:08, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**PS Probably just semantics, but can a high school kid really use "grew up in" past tense? In my mind, she's "growing up in" Brampton
**Delete. ] 16:00, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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{{tl|VfD-Sexdecillion}}
* Delelte; another teenager's vanity page. -- ] 16:04, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. ] | ] 16:05, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. --] 17:59, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, not significant. ] 18:10, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Having a page because you contribute online reviews of children's television programming is like any of us having a page for contributing here. -- ] 20:08, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. ] 20:15, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Probably delete (at least unless all claims are validated). Was going to say keep, but searching coca-cola.com and bramptonguardian.com doesn't find anything, and only 37 hits as "Nick Moreau", and 101 as "Nicholas Moreau". Only 13 articles at suite101.com, mostly last summer--only one this year. And if his spelling, etc. don't improve, not likely to become a prolific professional author. ] 21:13, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Move to ] - - and delete. ] 02:26, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. ] 16:02, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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{{tl|VfD-footjob}}
*Delete: literally a dicdef!! --] 17:03, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, move to wikidictionary --] 17:10, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep and expand unless there is another similar page. Of serious interest to historians, philosophers, sociologists, etc. --] 17:45, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**That's what ] is for. --] 17:46, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
**Move the bit of new info to the ] page History section, and delete this. ] 20:50, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*delete/move. salvage anything encyclopedic to ]. --]] 02:31, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. It is essential for the integrity of the ] article. (Originally, the ] article had an external link to the historical definition, but that link died. The simplest was to transcribe it. True, it could be made into an appendix of ] but what is the harm in having a separate entry? Other historical definitions would be useful. If anyone can find an early definition of '''razza''' in Italian, that would be particularly useful.] 07:15, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Why not link to the Wiktionary article then? That's what wiktionary is for... --]]
* It was my impression that Wiktionary is a dictionary of current meanings. Where do "Exhibits" belong in Misplaced Pages? ] 05:21, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**That should be incorporated into the main race article as another section and incorporated with explanations. We don't move photographs to separate pages when they fit, do we? --]] 23:41, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** "Exhibits" that are pictures go to "Image:". If I had a JPG image of the historical entry, I would post it to "Image:". Would it make everyone happy if I moved the article to "Image:Race (Webster 1913)"? ] 08:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Already voted above, but it is important to note that this article should not be a liguistic dictionary definition, but should describe the ways that race has been defined historically. Again, I think keeping it and rewriting would be the best way to go about it... --] 04:42, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Star_of_the_County_Down2}}
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Created by me in a probably-misguided effort to poke fun at the strange requests we see on the ]. Might be amusing, but in retrospect is kinda mean. -- ] 18:19, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. It might discourage people from ever becoming contributors. ] 18:33, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Perhaps all requests can be seen as "unusual". --] 18:36, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 20:19, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. But it would have been fun. :) - ] 20:44, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*No vote, but it could find a home in metawiki... ] 02:35, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, but only link to it from BJAODN, not from VP.... on second thought, move it to meta. --] | ] 02:52, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
**Keep it somewhere, don't mind where. ] 05:25, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. These are all in the history and possibly in archives anyway. Interesting and with a little work could become most instructive. I'd encourage those worried about it to ] and try some rephrasing. ] 10:56, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I'd suggest linking to it as "examples of questions that shouldn't be asked on Misplaced Pages" or something like that. And as Andrewa says, it's all on the record anyway. -- ] 11:15, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. If someone wants to make a page of questions that shouldn't be asked on Misplaced Pages, fine, but don't use real examples contributed by real Wikipedians. That's just offensive to the people who contributed them. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. The word Misplaced Pages in front of 'Misplaced Pages:Unusual requests' makes it an acceptable article. There are 100's of these types of articles. Delete one and you should delete them all. -- ] 15:05, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)~
* Delete. It's offensive, and not funny at all. ] 04:34, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. As Wapcaplet said, it's kinda mean. -- ] 04:46, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Move to meta. Nobody is likely to stumble on it there who isn't already used to Misplaced Pages culture, so no real worries about offending people. ] 05:20, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-William_Guzzardi}}
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Not important. ] 19:48, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Not notable. ] 20:06, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Important site, so important person. ] 20:19, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**If there are no more details to add than that, delete and merge with the page for the website. ] 21:18, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 20:24, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: not notable. ] 02:10, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Redirect. ] | ] 22:07, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*redirect to site article. --]]
* "Not important" is not an agreed reason for deletion. (See ].) Even if it were, assuming that (a) we are keeping the article on the website ], (b) it is verifiable that Jeff Veasey is the owner of the website, and (c) there is no significant information on Jeff Veasey apart from his connection to the website, we should keep ] as a redirect to ]. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*His site is notable but he is not, hence I vote redirect. Incidentally, asn't '''Jeff Veasey''' been on VfD before? Did it survive, or was it recreated? ] 04:55, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*As near as I can tell, it was listed on Feb 8, and deleted some time after that. That makes it a candidate for speedy deletion, but I think a redirect is the sensible way to go here. -- ] 05:10, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as redirect. If it were purely up to me I'd delete both this '''and''' the ] article, but IMO there is no prospect of consensus to delete so let's not waste time listing it. ] 20:14, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Misplaced Pages is not a psychic. ] 20:01, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 20:19, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 20:42, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. The year 2007 is almost certainly going to come, and there will almost certainly be music then. We will just have to undelete at that time. --] 20:56, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. It looks like its just a template currently containing events planned for 2007, though if someone wants to they might want to verify whether or not those events are real... --] 00:39, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* How about ] ? Do the same rules apply ? ] 09:37, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Anyone want to start a pool on who will be the first birth listed? ] 06:20, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/David_Pearce}}
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Source material, rules for a wargame, perhaps a copyvio. (] 20:42, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC))
*Delete. ] 20:46, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 21:03, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Ugh. Delete. ] | ] 22:03, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 06:00, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 19:19, 2004 Mar 14 (UTC)
*Delete ]
* Delete. HTML everywhere!] 02:45, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


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Vanity page. Adding himself to ], ], ], ], and other lists. Google shows very limited number of non-self-generated hits. ] 21:05, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Blimey, he claims his Master's Thesis is the best ever work on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. That's some ego he has there. ] 21:20, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Having had a look at some of the links - well, the things he claimed he was involved in appear to exist, but I haven't found any mention of him on their websites. Delete. ] 22:05, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete &#8211; vanity --] 00:18, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, and impressively well done, I might ad! ] 05:54, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Elaborate vanity. ] 06:08, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: I'm attempting to email him. The best solution IMO would be for him to register, move this to his user page, and contribute. That's assuming it is ], which seems likely. ] 10:39, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: give it the special "vanity of vanities" award, then delete. ] 14:47, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**PS: and then someone should clean up the links that he's littered around WP. ] 14:48, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*The vest damn vanity page we've ever had. Delete. ] | ] 21:50, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Move to user page and delete. I've just spent nearly an hour on Google checking these claims (yes, I =do= need to get a life) and while it is possible they are a bit overblown, those I could confirm are essentially consistent with information on sites over which M. de Fourestier would have no content control. He is a noted mineralogist, a National Defense coordinator for the Canadian government, and a recipient of the Meritorious Service Medal. While he has every right to be proud of his accomplishments, this page, in this context, is still shameless self-promotion. ] 20:05, 2004 Mar 14 (UTC)
**Keep, and use this information to make a good stub. He's not a registered user, is he? This page has been built by someone not logged in at IP 131.137.245.x and we're assuming it's him. So, is it wise to set up a user page for an unregistered user? What user name will you give him? Or, will it be a subpage of an existing user? But it sounds like he qualifies for a page. Being self-important doesn't '''disqualify''' anyone from inclusion, we'd have very few ]s listed if it did (;->. ] 02:27, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Hedonistic_imperative}}
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*Dictionary definition, though not much at that either. It also has a ] page. ] | ] 21:52, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. -- ] 02:34, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)
*Keep: I expanded it with usage notes. ] 03:10, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Wiktionary! A lovely expansion, S of T; it deserves a place of honor in the wiktionary pantheon. ]] 14:49, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)
* Delete, or move to Wiktionary. Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary. --] 22:31, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


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*Dicdef. ] 21:47, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Not discdef. It describes a ''device'', not a word usage. Although the article could be better. There are as many different clothespins as ]s. ] 23:37, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Expanded, keep. Perhaps should move to "Clothes peg" or something as this (to me) is much more common usage. ] 00:01, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. It's coming along nicely and could be fairly interesting. (Maybe I should go buy some clothespins, wooden matches, and sandpaper, and see if I can remember how to build a fire-throwing pistol--it's been probably 10 years. :) ) As for the name, I don't know if it's regional diffs, or at the national level, but I've only heard clothespins--except possibly the pegs version once or twice in some old movie or book (I've spent all my life on the West Coast of the US, BTW). Also clothespin gets about 50,000 hits, "clothes peg" about 9,000. ] 01:30, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep now that it has been expanded. ] 06:08, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Good topic, and now good article. ] 10:46, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. --] 18:43, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. You got an article on ]s, so why not one on clothespins? Seems like a more respectible topic to me. -- ] 15:13, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Nick_Bostrom}}
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* This information is covered in ] and does not warrant its own article. Delete. -- ] 03:55, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
** I have set up a redirect instead. I don't favor the redirect, but I will let debate continue. -- ] 03:55, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
***Keep redirect. Can't hurt. ] 05:13, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** If a minor topic doesn't need an article of its own, its page should be redirected to the more general article where the minor topic is covered. Vfd shouldn't be used for this sort of thing. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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=== March 13 ===


{{WP:Votes for deletion/World_Transhumanist_Association}}
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I see no merit to this. Maybe if it were funny. Vote for deletion. ] 02:55, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, well known genre of humour. ] 05:11, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Merge into a bigger article of humor series: blondes, lawyers, sex, etc. --] ] 07:01, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep or merge. We have ], why not this? It is a well-established joke form. I wouldn't object to merging it into the ] article, although that is getting unwieldy already. ] 11:51, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Merge/make into an article ] or something. ] 02:54, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Another thing: aren't jokes as original texts belong to wikisource? ] 02:54, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
::It's not a list of drummer jokes; it's an article about drummer jokes. It seems reasonable to quote a few examples. ] 09:54, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*This table is POV and wrong. It does not list all the relgious dieties in the world and offensively lists some non-dieties as "religious dieties". The items in the list do not constitute a series and I don't see the close relation among these figures to warrant categorization into such a table. --]] 02:53, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep (with some tweaks). My first reaction was that it was a good list of "Top (however many) most discussed religious and spiritual beings" or something like that, but then I noticed David and Abraham--but changing the end to beings and human beings seems a little silly. Anyway, point is I agree the terminology could be improved, but I think it's a reasonable series, useful especially doing comparative 'spirituality system' work, so it should just be cleaned up. ] 03:30, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**PS I think (and personifications) makes it clear that they aren't all being claimed to be religious, nor deities.
**do you plan to list every holy man and god of every single religon in the world? If we do, the table will be longer than any article. If we don't, we exhibit a bias towards religions that send missionaries and colonize. --]] 04:05, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***I certainly agree that an all-inclusive list would be too unwieldly. Since I'm not religious, I don't have strong feelings about whether it's kept.
:::Partly as Wiki practice, but mostly to get a clearer read on Misplaced Pages's culture and practices, I'd be interested in (preferably specific and constructive) feedback about if this major re-write/re-structure/re-context addresses some of the concerns and if it is at all approaching being savlageable. ] 07:07, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Strong Delete. 1.Unmanagable 2. Tinder for future flame wars. 3. List order is Western/Christian POV biased. 4. Factually moot. ] 04:00, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
** Won't ] come in the same controversial category. ] 09:37, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. the idea that Muhammad is a "Religious Deity or Personification" is offensive to Muslims, and is wrong. such tabular menus seem to add little to articles, and impose a non-neutral point of view about the relationship of articles. Sometimes they overwhelm the article they are added to (in terms of size and screen-space) the person who creates such tables should not protect them. - ] 04:20, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 05:49, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Args omitted to avoid a religious war. --] ] 06:58, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete with extreme prejudice. Impossible to maintain without POV. ] | ] 21:48, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Information about religious figures should be written in ordinary articles and linked to in the normal way. I agree with Nunh-huh's second point above. -- ] 13:01, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. This is totally ridiculous, it's just as unmanageable as ]. --]'s ] 07:56, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. See my reasoning at the MediaWiki:Religion entry on this page. In short, the "sidebar" extension of the series concept is a bad attempt to create a category system. These msg boxes also push real content from the first screen on readers screens. --] 09:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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{{tl|VfD-HaifaLinuxClub}}
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*uninformative and biased -- ] 08:11, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**revision does look better. i jumped the gun. change to keep :p
* Probably vandalism. Utter rubbish. Terribly written anyway. Delete. ] | ] 08:43, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Valid stub now. ] 09:37, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep stub. ] 11:58, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: valid stub now. ] 14:51, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep the current version. ] | ] 21:45, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Revised version looks fine to me. ] 22:08, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*I couldn't find anything on the guy on Google. I wouldn't call the accomplishments described in the article anything noteworthy, either. -- ] 08:23, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Seems to be gone already. Any particular reason? ] 09:55, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* An anon blanked it and put a speedy deletion tag on it - and someone deleted it without checking the history. I have restored. ] 12:18, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: vanity. ] 14:52, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. The anon user who listed for speedy delete was the creator, see , and IMO it does qualify. But thanks for the restore. IMO the only problem was that the reason for the delete should have been listed here for 24 hours in terms of current policy. ] 18:52, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*The only author of the page blanked it and added the speedy deletion tag, so I deleted it. I did check the history. There is no real reason to wait if the author the page agrees it should be deleted. Delete. ]] 18:56, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)~
* Firstly, this is certainly not a ]. (Read the criteria!) Secondly, Misplaced Pages articles are kept or deleted according to the views of the Misplaced Pages community; the opinion of the original contributor has no more weight than anyone else's. Having said that, the information appears to be unverifiable, so I support deletion. (After five days, of course.) -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**I've read the criteria (again!) and IMO it does qualify, and if it doesn't then it certainly should. Is there really any doubt? ] 12:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Paul_McKeever}}
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*vanity ] 09:23, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Another blanking and addition of speedy deletion tag led someone to delete this. I have reverted. Please could administrators check the edit history before deleting. Thanks. ] 12:27, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* I think once it has been listed on VfD it should stay here - even if the original author blanks after the VfD tag is added. ] 12:32, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Delete right away. Complete vanity. ] 13:05, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Vanity is not one of the reasons for speedy deletion. ] 14:10, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: vanity. ] 14:52, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Does not contain any allegation or information even colorably justifying inclusion. That he is a student at ]? That he is an atheist? These are just large groups, but there is no indication he is anything more than a member of these. Unless information is added to colorably justify inclusion here, I vote to delete. --] 17:56, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. While I think this does qualify for ] as ], see for the last non-blank version by the creator, I also think this discussion is good and should continue here. IMO we don't know whether the author is the subject or not, but it's clearly a prank of some sort. ] 18:35, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. If Adam Jacob Muller is only prominent for what the article says, then he does not deserve being included in an Encyclopedia more than myself. (Although I ''might'' be worth including?). ] 18:38, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Not even entertaining vanity. ] 22:10, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete ]


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*Have not found any evidence anywhere to support the existence of Mizan or any of its "cousins" as cartoon characters in any media format. Looks like vanity to me. ] 12:11, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. I've listed it for ] as ]. The page states that the character was "Created as a stroke of genious by its creater", and is "not well known yet". It's by an anon user. ] 18:25, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**But the speedy delete notice was reverted by a sysop. So I guess we just need to list it here. Complete waste of time IMO, but they need to call them as they see them fall. Is there really any doubt? Guess we'll see. ] 12:38, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Let's allow it due process. But delete. ] 16:09, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Dictionary definition. ] 12:30, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*<strike>Keep. Less than 24 hours old. Does not meet ] threshhold. ] 12:37, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)</strike>
**Seems like a matter of opinion whether or not it meets that criterion. (not a vote)] | ] 21:42, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*** Keep. Fails ] threshhold, in my opinion. ] 22:55, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. This was one of many professions listed on Requested Articles. Ample room for expansion. -- ] 12:43, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. We have lots of articles on professions. There's no reason this one can't be improved. ]] 15:33, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
**Keep, either expand or else redirect to Zoo. ] 01:19, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Now an adequate stub. ] 12:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Quoting the creator of this article: "This article is a stub, created to help resolve an issue in ]. Depending upon how the issue is resolved, this stub will either be expanded or deleted."
* Delete - How the issue was resolved demands deletion. -- ] 14:53, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete as a main encyclopedia article. Not encyclopedic. Original research. Or, attempt at a public discussion. The material on this page belongs on a talk page somewhere. ] 15:25, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*The fact that this article needs work and was created for a dubious reason does not mean that the article of this title ''per se'' should be deleted. I vote to keep, but a lot of work should be done on it. --] 15:55, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep, or at least, keep the idea. The concepts of "conventional medicine" vs. "alternative medicine" should be covered in Misplaced Pages. But the current content does belong on a talk page, not in the article namespace. -- ] 17:23, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep, but completely rewrite... possibly as a stubby explanation of the distinction between conventional and alternative medicine. The current contents of the article are already present on ]. - ] 19:10, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Article is a dictionary definition, no valuable information. Sole content:
:: '''Underwater''' or '''U/W''' is a term describing the area below the surface of ]. Many activities are conducted underwater, whether for ] such as ], or for other purposes, such as ]. The deepest location underwater (and in the entire world, in fact) is the Challenger Deep located in the Mariana Trench.


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Perhaps could be a disambiguation page, but no need to have a dedicated page. ] 18:59, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, not just a dicdef, but needs expansion. --] 19:05, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
**I agree. --] 19:53, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Keep and hope it grows. Note: some purists prefer the term "in-water," as in Lawrence E. Metrens, "In-water Photography: Theory and Practice," but it's probably a lost cause. ] 22:45, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Move it to Wiktionary? --]
* Delete and move ] in its place. ] 09:36, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


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and any *(StarCraft) pages


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First, Wiki is not a game preserve, and the purpose of these articles is to describe individual game elements. The last thing Wiki needs is a hundred thousand articles like this. Second, the StarCraft: Brood War (unWikified on purpose) article is cloning the StarCraft article each time it is read. Admins might like to determine how it is doing so and stop it.
*Can you explain what you mean by this? How is the article cloned? ] | ] 23:01, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Anon means there's a ] from ] to ]. -- ] 02:51, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***I'm still at a loss. If it's just a redirect, what's the big deal? ] | ] 02:55, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***I postulate anon is somewhat unfamiliar with Misplaced Pages's setup and didn't realize redirection exists and is appropriate for this article title. -- ] 02:58, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***I'm not conversant enough with the software to be sure, but I think there is something more than a redirect going on. If you go to the ] page and then see "what links here" you'll see a StarCraft: Brood War page followed by a long list of StarCraft pages. I agree an Admin should check into it. ] 06:26, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
****The problem was that there was a link to ] IN ], which made it a silf-link, causing some confusion on the What Links Here page. I deleted the self-link and it looks somewhat better. ] | ] 06:31, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, definitely. Good article, good information. ] 22:05, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Significant computer games deserve an entry as much as significant films do. ] 22:16, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Shall we also delete ], ], etc.? ] 22:17, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete all: useless pseudoinformation. ] 22:50, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, of course. Any encyclopedia of video games would include this. ] 22:57, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep! Very famous, very notable video game. This listing is a perfect case of deletionism run amok. ] 23:00, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
** "Deletionism" is a straw man, as there are no deletionists in sight. I don't see anyone/anything running amok here. ] 06:44, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*I remove the delete request for the parent article but maintain it for all the sub-articles such as ], ], et al. As far as cloning goes, it is the article's title which is being cloned on this page: ] 23:34, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)
** You'd need to list them all individually on Vfd, in that case. Discussing several articles simultaneously has been tried on here before, and it always ends up a total mess. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. StarCraft happens to be the name of a company that made cabin cruisers during the last century. I have seen other articles on businesses such as StarCraft. Keep and expand the article. -- ] 15:21, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep, but delete the dozens of orphaned unit/class articles, such as ], or ]. I also question the merit of the race articles (e.g. ], ]). - ] 16:56, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Can we move this discussion to ]? It seems to me from the use of the phrase "game preserve" the intention of the person who posted StarCraft to VFD actually intended to address the various *(Starcraft) articles rather than the actual Starcraft article. But the title of this VFD discussion (simply titled "StarCraft") is leading to confusion. In any case, it is clear that the overwhelming concensus is that the StarCraft article should be kept; the real question is whether the *(StarCraft) articles should be kept or deleted. Notice also that on Talk:StarCraft, there is already a full list of *(StarCraft) articles, as well as an earlier discussion regarding them that seemed to end through lack of interest. So unless someone objects, I'm going to move this discussion to ] pretty soon (as in possibly tomorrow) so that people can actually discuss whether the *(StarCraft) articles should be kept. --] 22:41, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


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*You, too, can take random word roots and join them together! "When I grow up, I'm going to be a Geoexourologist!" ] 22:15, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Pointless. ] 22:17, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Someone must have been very bored. ] 22:19, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, even though photobiologists are real enough and will tell you to become one. Actually the fact that one of the so-called "unpopulated" professions isn't unpopulated just shows that the prankster responsible for the page wasn't even a scholarly prankster. ] 22:41, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete nonsense. ] | ] 22:58, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, BUT! I find it curious that "List of unpopulated professions" is on VfD (exactly where I thought it would end up, and hence no research done) as a possible threat to the integrity of Wiki, but ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and a whole slew of similar articles are encyclopedic? At least Loup is (I hope) modestly amusing. (I personally liked pediatric gerontologist). All these game preserve entries are just destructive. Am I cranky? Nah. ] 23:30, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)
*:Denni, we write about fiction topics, but we certainly do not make up fiction ourselves. ] 01:07, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*:Delete this article, but Denni's got a point about the StarCraft articles as well. If nothing else, they may be copyright violations. ] 06:18, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*delete.] 03:20, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
**Delete obviously. But Denni does have a valid point. Fictional titles like "starcraft' should clearly indicate very early on in the article that they are fiction.
***Comment: Yes, they should indicate this. Please ] if you think it is important. ] 12:06, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*delete ]
*Rubbish! I'm a Neurothespian! At least I think about acting sometimes.... Ho hum. Delete. ] 16:14, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/Thinkism}}
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*A fictional biography on someone who supposedly was a star tennis player starting in ''']'''... ] 22:21, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
**For clarification, there are two Yahoo! hits for "Trevor Longley" (both of them the same info): he apparently won 2nd place at some Bahamas event. The same link is the only one that appears on a google search for "Trevor Longley" Bahamas, and nothing for "Trevor Longley" tennis. ] 22:27, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, patent nonsense. Seems like a good candidate for speedy deletion. ] 22:48, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete this nonsense. ] | ] 22:53, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Certainly not ] as Misplaced Pages defines it. (Read the page!) But seems to be unverifiable. Delete unless verified. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** I guess you're looking at the current stub and not an earlier version such as . ] 06:28, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*** No, I was looking at the original version. &quot;]&quot; means text that is literally incomprehensible. If something is written in comprehensible English prose then it is not &quot;patent nonsense&quot;, however much one may disapprove of it. -- ] 13:01, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**** I'm curious to know how claims about future tennis championships might be verified, then. ] 15:38, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. See '''Lemuel Longley''' below. But I'm glad someone else seems to think that ] includes things like . Surely, this is a simple prank? ] 11:59, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Dictionary definition of a slang term. Moved to . ]] 22:36, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete.] 03:20, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


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* Probably rubbish. Not referenced, artist not properly seperated from album title. This is ] material. ] 22:38, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Seems to be a Marilyn Manson CD. Delete if not improved before deadline. ] 01:14, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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* It must be Saturday night and someone is wasting his time. ] 22:44, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Seems to be an early Marilyn Manson tape. ] 23:08, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. I really don't have patience for articles where the author can't be bothered to provide even the most minimal context about what he or she is trying to describe. If I can't figure it out by reading it, then I can't be bothered to vote to keep it in Misplaced Pages, even if it presumably *might* get more context at some later point. ] 06:33, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Arab_Khamula}}
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Listed as a copyvio, the original poster claims he has permission to post. Whatever, it's still not an encyclopedia article. ] | ] 22:52, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*], ] and ]. Source text. Better at Wikisource? ]] 22:52, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
** Wikisource. --] 00:48, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** Source text from where? If something comes from another source, please tell us the source! If these pages are copied from other sources, they could possibly be deleted as copyright infringements (in the selection of data and the way it is set out, not in the data itself). If they are not, I'd suggest keeping them as useful reference tables. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*** The source is . It's just data. I can't see that that is copyrightable. Such things are removed from ] whenever they are put there. Why should it be kept here? ] a place for source texts. ]] 03:09, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
**** Thanks for the link. If the page is &quot;just data&quot;, and assuming it is uncontroversially accurate, then it could be argued that the table is no more a &quot;source text&quot; than, say, the periodic table. On the other hand, the bit that says, &quot;This is a computer generated table, errors can not be excluded,&quot; raises the question of possible disagreements with other sources. We should really only have reference tables if the data in them is universally accepted. You can't really do NPOV in a table. So I'm saying delete after all. :) -- ] 13:01, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**** '''They're computed by myself.''' I computed these tables with ] 7 Demo and scripts in ] written by myself in the summer of 1999. I think it is not too long to put it at Wikisource, and I'm planning to put additional information on it later. ] 12:09, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***** Oh! So maybe we can just delete it as "original research". :) -- ] 13:01, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Okay, I've moved the mostly to Wikisource. ] 17:00, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Partit_Nacionalista_Liberal_de_Catalunya}}
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Dicdef, substub. ] | ] 23:38, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, now reasonable stub. ] 11:44, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Same as ] mentioned earlier here: a fictional biography on someone who supposedly was a star tennis player starting in ''']'''... --] 23:47, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete unless verified. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Surely these two are obvious pranks? Created by the same anon user, the original versions are strange, IMO ] but I've had some comment suggesting not everyone would agree with me as to what this means. Even if they are based on real people (I don't know), it would be easier to start again. ] 11:53, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Delete: patent nonsense, though not ]. I think ] needs to be expanded to include histories of future events, which seems to be a fairly popular topic among the 12-19 crowd. But the WP defn of &quot;patent nonsense&quot; is a topic for another page, &amp; maybe I'll get up off the sofa and find the appropriate forum for that discussion. ] 15:50, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*** I posted a comment at ]. FWIW, ] 16:19, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, and we can recreate if he ever achieves anything. ] 12:42, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-UNaXcess}}
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*One line nonsense, and the topic doen't seem to lend itself to an encyclopedia article. ] 23:49, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**(No vote). The current version is obvious nonsense but I'm sure someone could write a decent version. ] 00:58, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Expanded/rewrote, but still probably needs some work. Keep. ] 03:08, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Already a good stub, and I've expanded it a little more. ] 11:33, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{tl|VfD-Cairns_State_High_School}}
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Doesn't deserve his own page. ] | ] 00:11, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* It's the most recent hanging in the United States. Why doesn't he "deserve" his own page? I can think of a lot of other pages that are less insignificant then this... --] 01:06, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
** Where does it say that? What did he do? Where are his dates? ] | ] 01:12, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*** Look it up yourself and add the information. It only takes a few minutes and prevents significant topics from taking up space on VfD. ] 03:51, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, certainly. ] 01:17, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Just another murderer. Not that his article mentioned ''that''. - ] 01:55, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* It's been expanded quite nicely now. Can we assume this is all verifiable from newspaper reports? If so, then keep. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Good article on an interesting, encyclopaedia-worthy topic. ] 03:31, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Seems encyclopedic to me. -- ] 05:50, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Article seems to have been expanded since yesterday to give more conent, which gives it my vote. -- ] 11:29, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Listed on ] by ] but not a candidate for speedy deletion. ] (this is not a vote)
*<strike>Delete -- nonsense. About time this one came up.</strike> Ok, keep now that it's been fixed. ] 01:17, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Italian Somaliland used to exist, see ], and is probably worth an article in itself. Was known by that name in English. Can't speak for the accuracy of the contents. ] 09:52, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Good topic. In general, bad content is not a reason for deletion. Agree article needs work. ] 11:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* I've completely rewritten the article since it was listed here, for what it's worth. -- ] 13:01, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Well done, now a good stub. I was hesitant to do this myself as I was unsure what was accurate and what prankish. Now all we need is some mechanism for getting this sort of action without listing articles here. ] 20:22, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Move to clean-up, if anything. Valid topic--nice start. ] 19:07, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. ] 16:15, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*], ], ] and ]. Listed on ] by ] but not candidates for speedy deletion. ] (this is not a vote)
*Delete each and every one of them. If someone wants to keep them, I suggest they move them to ] 10:10, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*I put some of these on speedy dels too. In my opinion they are clearly source texts, and thus should be disposed of. ] 11:17, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] 18:56, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*] needs deleting (spelling mistake) now redirects to correct]
* Keep common typo in the U.S. -- 667 Google hits on Bombadier (rank) and 12,200 Google hits on Bombadier. ] 05:16, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Useful redirect. I'm not altogether sure I would have used the right spelling in searching for it, myself. And just BTW, this isn't the right place to list ]. ] 11:11, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/Vollis}}
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*Merge into ] and redirect (or they should both redirect to the merged content at ]--whatever is standard) ] 02:28, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*I vote to keep the one with the periods (full stops). ] | ] 02:31, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Redirection doesn't involve deletion, so this doesn't need to be listed here. -- ] 02:46, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**If that's true, this needs to be updated/clarified. I have very little interest in the topic, and it's going to take a lot of work, so I'm not going to do the merge--if I just make it a redir page, someone would have to merge from the old history, which seems more cumbersome. ] 03:04, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***It is true. ''Merge and redirect'' is a sensible way to vote, but '''not''' when you're listing the article on VfD in the first place, because if that's your vote then you shouldn't have listed the article, you should have just done it. There's no need to merge histories when an article becomes a redirect, only if one with significant history is to be deleted. Is that clearer? ] 06:03, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
****Oliver Pereira has done a nice job of clarifying the section that had misled me. I won't make the mistake again. Both articles are quite long, and I have no interest in the subject, so there is no way I'm going to attempt the merge--hopefully one of the article's primary contributors (the newer one is entirely the work of one person--too bad he didn't find the one that already existed) can take it on. ] 19:34, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**The problem is that there are three articles that need to be merged. ] | ] 02:56, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
***Um, actually, one of the two period ones is just a redir already. ] 03:04, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*I will admit to more than a little consternation here. The J.S. article and the JS article have been merged, and the result is almost entirely the latter, but the page history is only the former. There is no record at all of the many hours of time I put into this piece. Note that I have no problem with merging - I subscribe fully to the concept that once your baby goes to Wiki, it's not yours any more. That should not, however, mean that all trace of parentage is lost. ] 20:35, 2004 Mar 14 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/Disassociate}}
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*Dic-def. ] 04:37, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as redir. ] 10:11, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


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*Vanity. --] 04:39, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Some kid. ]] 04:41, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*May it be deleted. ] 04:43, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Never to arise again. ] 06:22, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Har har. Delete. ] 14:42, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Nice one whoever added see also: nerd, geek. - ] 15:46, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - vanity. BTW, I was born exactly 6 days after this guy. =) --] 19:13, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
**You could always write an article saying that. ;-) ] 16:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/MrBits}}
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*Huh? ] | ] 07:45, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Aha. The article just stared to be created. Get off the author's neck, man. Aren't there any decent time-out rules here? You didn't even take any trouble to check the validity of the topic. The actual place of this notice is in the Cleanup. ] 08:26, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**No, the actual place would have been quick delete, but I decided against it. There was nothing there to indicate what it was or what it was supposed to be, and no indication that there would ever have been anything. This is the right place until we decide if this is necessary, even in the current state it's in. ] | ] 23:19, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: I think RickK put it very well above. This article is strange. The title isn't even referenced in the article; I have no idea what it means or how to find out. I've been criticised for describing things as ] recently, so somebody else check it out please. And while I do agree about time-out rules (and no, there aren't, and yes, there should be) there seems to have been no attempt to fix this, despite five more edits by the anonymous author since the VfD notice went on. Most peculiar, momma. ] 11:28, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Working backwards through the links, I am guessing that this should be somehow associated with ]. None of my references have been able to verify or clarify this, though. I agree that the current article is incomprehensible and out of context. I vote to move it to Clean-up for a week. Delete as unverifiable only if it can't be cleaned up. ] 13:29, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep: useful, informative. Candomble is a Brazilian religion of African origin, widely practiced. ] 15:20, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Maybe move to clean-up. I've added context as to what the article is supposed to be about (it was formerly a red-link at Candomble). I do not know enuf Portuguese, nor anything about Candomble, to know if this initial content is relevant. ] 19:18, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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This is a ''see also'' list masquerading as a "series". It is not. A series should have some short of logical order to it. This doesn't. Any series on Jesus would be on the life of the historical figure. I don't see the connection among these articles.--]] 07:49, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. MediaWikis are not ''See also:'' lists. ] 09:27, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. msgs are very good for keeping a topic together, and I don't see the problem of the actual table. We could consider moving the table to a ''se also'' location in the articles though. ] 11:20, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete or make into a footer. What Davodd said. --] 12:22, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Article series are a bad idea, except in cases where there is an uncontroversial natural (''e.g.'' chronological) order, and even when there is, the chronological list should go in the relevant overview article, not in the MediaWiki space. -- ] 13:01, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* I note that this box on those articles existed well before this msg tag did. Votes for deletion is not for editorial decisisions like this. ] 15:24, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*I disagree with your strict definition of series, especially as used in various ] such as MediaWiki:Headgear. Some things don't lend themselves to a particular order, but still can be usefully grouped. The connection is that they are all Mikipedia articles about Jesus. The roots of the word series, after all are ''to join, link together''. Your objections to this one article also applies to many of these
:That aside, I agree very much with Morwen, that VfD is NOT the place to bring semantic complaints.
:On the otherhand, maybe it's good you brought this issue into public discussion, instead of just silently going around removing tables that don't fit your definition of "series" ] 22:39, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
::I did bring the issue up about the poetry series, both at ] and ]. My comments and concerns were not addressed and I removed the "series" only after waiting a few weeks, having received no further response. Isn't whether to keep an article or not an editorial decision too? Couldn't we just lash it out on the talk page of the article in question? The msg involves more than one article. VFD is intended to give more visibility to the issue. Items that have logical grouping belong in a see also list, no a series. --]] 22:53, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
:::Well, if your main objection to all the "series" you've deleted/challenged is the definition of the word, change it to "group", or "collection", or whatever term floats your boat. But note that ''series'', meaning any related collection seems to have a lot of currency here. Wholesale deletetion just because of an objection to a single word doesn't seem very reasonable. ] 23:10, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
::It's not just about the word. It's about the purpose these boxes serve. I don't see what these accomplish a simple ''see also'' list does not. The boxes stand in the way and anything that stands in the way must have more importance than being a related topic. I also objected to having a "University of California group" at ]. --]]
*Keep. This is an abuse of process. MediaWiki messages should only be listed here if there are no pages using them permanently. ] 07:59, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
**Why is that so? Why made up that rule? Where do you suggest we discuss this? The table does not belong in any single article. Obsolete Mediawiki pages should qualify for speedy deletion. --]]
*'''Delete''' or at least make it a footer. See my reasoning at the MediaWiki:Religion entry on this page. In short, the "sidebar" extension of the series concept is a bad attempt to create a category system. These msg boxes also push real content from the first screen on readers screens. --] 09:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/Quantumphasetransition}}
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Article title says it all. ] 09:24, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Merge with ] --] 19:11, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Don't merge. This is not good information anyway. ]] 23:02, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Merge it. The information is interesting. ]
*I've redirected the page to ], which contains information about what is actually in sunscreen. ]] 07:28, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Just a link, not an article. ] | ] 14:26, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Cleanup - it deserves an article. --] 19:09, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Version 0.1.2, released Feb 2003; version 0.1.3 promised "soonish" in Oct 2003, but still not available? Seems like it is going to be quite some time before this software is notable. ] 20:07, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


{{WP:Votes for deletion/List_of_people_who_have_not_committed_suicide}}
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Only 9 Google hits, all of which appear to be user names. --] 18:38, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - nonsense --] 19:09, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete-fiction. ] 21:31, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. ] | ] 23:27, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Fiction and nonsense. ] 13:32, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


==== ] ==== ====] and ]====
Not verifiable, not encyclopedic. Was speedy deletion, but should be in VFD (Can count me as delete). ] | ] 19:42, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Neutral. I had never heard of this, but the core subject apparently appeared for about 7 years, and I believe this offshoot is verifiable. Unless we want to get rid of all articles about manga features, I see no reason to delete, but maybe it could be merged with the core article. ] 19:59, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. The author admits that it probably isn't very accurate. If there is something worth saying about these power levels, it can be said on pages about the characters or something. ] 20:34, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Info can go on other DragonBallZ and characters pages. --] 22:17, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. This appears to be just a bunch of opinion presented as an unintelligible list of numbers. ] 22:22, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete this! ]
* Delete. Unofficial, probably fan estimated data. ] 02:19, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. No power level list can be accurate, and I marked this for deletion because it is even more inaccurate than the average power level list. (Which is still inaccurate.) PLEASE delete it!


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Dicdef, should be deleted and transwikied to Wiktionary. ] 19:49, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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This isn't encyclopedia material. This is something that belongs in a travel guide or newspaper, but not an encyclopedia.


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* Keep. Yes, it really happened, and it achieved enough national prominence that, I would argue, it belongs. I think it would be a mistake to, umm, sever that piece of information from Misplaced Pages. ] 20:09, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. Still going strong as a staple of late night comedians. More people in the U.S. probably know who she is than know who the First Lady is. -- ] 20:11, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. This made headlines around here. -- ] 20:19, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, quite famous. ] 20:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. The event is quite notable--major headlines, and widely discussed at the time. Probably needs some clean-up, tho': A) has red link to John Wayne Bobbitt--I don't think they both need separate articles--probably could move this content to something like John and Lorena Bobbitt, and have all variations of both names redir there. B) the last two paragraphs need help--the theory is probably worth mentioning, but the author is pretty POV, so it should probably be more "qualified" in it's presentation--I've made a start in this direction, and have added context so readers will know the view of the author, so they can decide how much to buy into it, but it could probably still be improved. ] 21:13, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, absolutely! Quite well known case! ] 22:37, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. She is not a historically significant figure. Her actions add nothing of value to history, science, education, law, psychology, or even domestic violence. The media was just having a slow news day at the time and followed the idea that 'sex sells'. Her biography or the facts of the case belong in a newspaper achive or some other repository, but definitely not an encyclopedia.
**Your criteria is overly limiting for a project like Misplaced Pages, in my opinion. ] 00:10, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Part of a "compendium of human knowledge". But so is a ]... - ] 23:23, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, though it could use some NPOVing. ] | ] 23:25, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep! Why is this on VfD? If there are problems with the article, send it to Cleanup, but that is no reason to delete an article about a very well-known person. ] 03:31, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep! Lets face it, if there were more women like her, there'd be less men that ]. She's a hero of mine. '']'' 1:14, 15 Mar 2004 (MTC)


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==== ] and ] ====
Dicdefs, don't see the articles going anywhere, perhaps should be merged or just redirect to ]
*Yeah, probably merge/redir into mortgage--however, note that these may have been created because the mortgage article links the words, so if redir'd, links should be removed as self-referential. Similar issues may apply to the deed link/article. Oh, and also send to wiktionary. ] 21:20, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Move to Wiktionary. Once someone moves them (transwiki is still too confusing for me), I will update the links in the ] article to point to Wiktionary. ] 14:38, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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This is about a single book in a children's horror series. There are no pages about the author of the book or the other books in the series. Certainly not encyclopedia material.
*Keep. It was a pretty famous series back in the early or mid '90s. ] 20:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Everyking: I understand the Goosebumps series was notable, but this article is not about the series, it is about a single book in the series.
**I don't see why the individual books aren't notable if the series is. And besides, it says this particular one had a TV movie made about it. ] 21:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*keep, but maybe move to be a stub for just "Goosebumps". ] 21:15, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**I'm pretty undecided whether each title in the series needs it's own article, especially if no one is willing to create the content, but I have created a main Goosebumps stub, as the series is very notable. The specific Goosebumps: The Haunted Mask article should either be kept as is, or should be merged into Goosebumps, at least, maybe, until someone is willing to create articles for all the title. ] 21:55, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Don't think we should create an article for each Goosebumps book, anymore than we should create an article for each television episode of a famous series. Delete this article, but move the info to the Goosebumps article. --] 22:09, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. It's as valid as any article on ] or the ]. -- ] 23:53, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
* We should keep pages on all books for which we have verifiable information. Even if there isn't enough material for an article about a single book (it seems in this case that there ''is''), the page should be kept as a redirect to wherever it is covered, whether that may be an article on a series or an article on the author. A page on a minor topic should always be kept as a redirect to the article where that topic is covered, to preserve authorship information, to enable people to find where the information is now, and to prevent duplication of content. -- ] 00:08, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep! There's no reason to delete this. It was a popular book series, and this was one of the more well-known stories in it. I don't see the problem in writing articles on individual books in the series; after all we have articles such as ]. Misplaced Pages is not paper. -] 06:00, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


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From ], I don't believe this to be factually accurate, no verifiable hits on google. -- ] | ] 20:23, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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* Delete. Even if it is factually accurate the article is not important enough for an encyclopedia.
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* ] - not encyclopedic, not a term in common use (most hits on Google are to Misplaced Pages-derived articles), and spelled in an unusual way; after all, the ] article already exists
* ] - not encyclopedic; is the fashion of black metal really ''that'' different from other fashions such as Goth or punk? Are there experts on this type of fashion? At best, the info should be moved to an article about the musical genre or the ] article.
* ] - see comments above about "Black metal fashion"
* ] - see comments above about "Black metal fashion"
* ] - see comments above about ]; also, I've never heard this used as a term, and Google hits are to Misplaced Pages-derived articles; what is the need for this article when there already exist ] and ] articles?


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The information in the above articles could probably be adequately covered in ] or ]. --] 22:07, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. They deserve individual articles. Fashion is important to culture, even in its more bizarre forms. ] 22:43, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Sure, but only if they're ''actual'' fashions. I'm skeptical whether "vampyre fashion", "black metal fashion", etc., are actual fashion movements. --] 22:52, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)
*Erm, "post modern computer components"? Delete. -] 04:47, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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An overly simplistic equation describing human impact upon the environment. The equation itself is not encyclopedic. - ] 22:15, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. - ] 22:15, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Seems to be a real theory. ] 22:43, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**I have no problem with that; but in that case, it needs a lot of work and a much better title. -- ]
*Keep. No explanation on the page, no explanation in the single page linking to it. But google does suggest it is real, so list on the pages need help instead.] 13:37, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Maybe a copyvio, certainly partisan, and tells us nothing about the subject. ] 22:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* It is from , so move to copyvio? ] 22:33, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


I do not expect you to understand the importance a mutable archive of Mudgik would provide the Mudgik community. The remark is blunderous; importance is relative.
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POV, too cutesie for an encyclopedia, and defeats the whole point of Misplaced Pages, which is to attempt to explain everything and anything, even those articles linked to on this page. Delete. ] 23:58, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)


It is not a ] it was a ].
* you CANT explain everything and anything. otherwise we wouldnt need films movies art or anything else.
**Delete. Nonsense. ] 02:11, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Duly noted the irony that its only links are to Misplaced Pages articles] 02:47, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* delete! ] 05:12, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


It exists today in two forms (I am still researching them).
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Just a joke. There is a place called cloud City in Star Wars and maybe also in Care Bears, but this article has NO salvagable content. ]
*Delete. Content is all nonsense, not a stub. ] 13:17, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Silly and pointless.] 13:38, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Apparently a recent special at a restaurant in Vermont. Beyond trivial ]
*KEEP, it's a popular culinary invention.
* Delete. Once the provably false information is removed (I can order one like that at my local pizzaria, and it doesn't cost 22.50 here), it contains nothing of substance. ] 02:21, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Don't need an article about every unique menu item in every restaurant around the world. ] 06:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. It's truly absurd. Made me laugh though. ] 06:30, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


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Vainty page from someone who was once in an insignificant band. ''Roaf'' himself contributed the article. ]
*Delete unless some form of verification is provided. ] 02:06, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


For more MUDs that aren't 'that important' please see:
=== March 15 ===
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*Redirect to ]? ] | ] 02:20, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**No it's just an expression. Don't know what should be done with it though. ] | ] 03:07, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
***Are there enough similar expressions (e.g. "Deus vult") to make one page of them all? -- ] 03:23, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. It is English wikipedia, not arab or farsi. ] 07:21, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


http://en.wikipedia.org/MUD#Popular_MU*s
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If this is to be inclusive, it will become larger than the articles themselves. If not, this will be POV. These articles are not intimately connected and should not even be a see also list. The list belongs at ]. Just links that to the article. --]] 02:22, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. I agree with Jiang. Each article can link to ] if desired, but this message won't work. ] 04:43, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. No way to be neutral, and not terribly useful. ] 04:50, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. I still don't see any benefit in this sort of message. (See ].) -- ] 06:26, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Move to MetaWiki as an example of how not to use a MediaWiki... then delete. ] 07:27, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, for the reasons Jiang mentioned. --]'s ] 07:32, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep, abuse of process to list here whilst things are still using it. ] 08:00, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
**then the entire vfd is an abuse of process since articles being nominated are still being linked to and avalable for reading/editing. --]]
* Keep. I understand that some of you arent sysops, and therefore cant edit the pages in question - at least make proposals on the talk pages or on the pump, or cleanup. But I notice how reflexive people are - even on a wiki, where something can easily be changed to suit a purpose, people rather gripe and delete than actually ] and do something about it. So, the real issue isnt ''this'' article but every mediawiki sidebar like it, and this isnt really the place to deal with it (maybe at ]). The point of the ] is to bind articles together with some topical cohesion. Articles in the sidebar are'nt going to be over-specific, but all the general categories should be filled. In most cases, it doesnt make sense for the sidebars to be sub-topical, rather paralell and general - to logically link to other articles. In case any of you here are new, this is exactly what the ] was made for, and has been a long time in coming. If you had been around longer, you might more quickly see the need and the potential. -]</big><small>] 08:43, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**the pages should not be protected and if you think they do, then you've been living in a hole for the past few weeks. trying to list every religion in the world in a sidebar was on obviously ridiculous (and not issue with the entire sidebar scheme), as i've demonstrated by populating the list with polythestic religions. Now that you've changed it, I am less strongly for deleting as I once was, but prefer that this goes as a footer since it is no different from see also lists, which are placed towards the bottom of an article. --]]
*'''Delete''' (strongly)- All this is is a really bad way to have an ad-hoc category system. The msg just pushes real content aside (such as images and tables that have content about the subject). Just ''link'' to ] which in turn should have a link to a list of religious topics. You can also ''directly'' link to such a list in each of those article's "See also" section. But having that list in ''every'' related article is extremely insane. I ''strongly'' support the deletion of this and related MediaWiki pages. --]
* You are having a vote about whether the boxes should be on the pages; not a vote on whether this should be deleted. MediaWiki messages are solely a technical measure, if they had not been invented you would not be able to put the <tables>s on vfd, nor do you need to use vfd to remove the msg tags from the articles. ] 11:30, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* I'll be neutral. Jiang: what is it that makes you think that everytime there is a selection, it is POV? We are an encyclopedia, and we have to be able to do encyclopedic overviews/summaries/selections. (I also agree with Morwen (above). VFD is neither editorial nor WP:cleanup) ] 15:46, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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*Nonsense. ] | ] 04:03, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*keep. not nonsense and true. --]]
**moved to ]. --]] 09:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Not nonsense, though I don't know that its really necessary. -] 04:49, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Not nonsense, but delete anyway. "List of" articles are nice if they organize related information in a useful way, but this does not. Also, it makes me nervous. ] 04:56, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Not nonsense, but as stated above, one has to judge a list by its logical purpose, otherwise you're left with an endless proliferation of lists that never further the goal of accumulating knowledge. Nobody in their right mind is going to look this up. Any information about these cases can and should go into individual articles. <strike>So delete.</strike> Keep in light of all the info that's been added, but change the title, since it's no longer primarily a list. ] 04:58, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Interesting conundrum. All in all, if we're going to keep it (and I'm not sure either way, actually) I vote to rename it. After all, it's not the penisis themselves that are important, but the people to whom they were attached. I vote to keep, but change the name to something like '''List of men whose penises have been severed''', or perhaps even '''List of men who have undergone involuntary penectomies'''. But if we keep this list, surely we're going to need '''List of women who have severed their partners' penises''' too? ] 05:06, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. I've tried to add some substance to it and tried to make it about penis severing.
* Undecided. Wrote the original when I saw that someone had a link to "List of severed penises". I thought the idea of making that link blue instead of red might be funny. There's some very good information in the article, as it is now, but I'm not sure if it all merits its own article and a ''list'' format, per se. Perhaps the information in that article could be relocated to ] or ]. Nice job, all, on turning a half-joking stub article into one with some serious merit. By the way, the stub tag is ''hilarious'' in the context of that article. I vote the tag should be kept even when it is a complete article. :) ] 06:47, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* I vote to keep it and rename it "List of Castrations", "List of Famous Castrations", "List of Castrated Men", or "List of Famous Castrated Men." I prefer "List of Famous Castrations" ] 07:05, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Castration refers to the testicles.] 13:40, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, but rename to something else. It is no longer just a list but explores the topic. --]
* vote to rename <U>'''Penis-related violence'''</U>. ] 07:23, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, but with a medical overview of the consequences of castration or mutilation of the penus. '']''


Keepers. ] 04:09, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
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*Article by a new user about himself. Not apparently important. Also, whatever redirects he's created (i.e. ]). ] 04:39, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Vote to delete. We do have a rule on vanity pages. ] 04:40, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. I would've suggested moving it to their user page (]), but that page already existed before they made their vanity page. ]] 04:45, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**I redirected it and ] to ]. ] | ] 04:51, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* The article space should be for encyclopaedia stuff only, so pages in the article space shouldn't redirect out of it. And as far as I know, we don't have a rule on "vanity pages". In fact, we have ], which I think forbids the term from even being used. However, delete if not verified. -- ] 06:26, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* No vote. Unknown, but seems to have done a couple significant things in his life...'']''


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*Keep. Somewhat marginal, but I think enough could be written about each of these to make lumping them together into a single article awkward, and there's no sense in losing the information, since it is significant to pop culture. ] 05:13, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. NO need for deletion. ] | ] 05:15, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, sadly enough. - ] ] 15:40, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


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* Dictionary definition of a phrase with no meaning beyond the obvious. ] 07:33, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Merge the GWB stuff with ] and delete this. Doesn't deserve it's own article. ] 07:36, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. First off, people may later want to link to &quot;miserable failure&quot; in particular rather than Googlebomb in general. Secondly, it's not merely a dicdef, but actually explains some of the cultural context. Perhaps a stub tag is in order, though. ] 07:54, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**If Mr Kerry calls Mr Bush "not very good", are we going to have ] too? Examples of Googlebombing are fine, but in the Googlebombing article. ] 08:49, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
**Unlike &quot;not very good&quot;, &quot;miserable failure&quot; (as applied to Bush) has developed some level of cultural presence. For example, I distinctly remember a news-related comedy bit using a recording of Gephardt saying &quot;miserable failure&quot;. ] 09:55, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*redirect to googlebomb --]]
*merge and redirect. ] 11:10, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I think this particular googlebomb is important enough for it's own page. ] 16:34, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
* Merge and redirect as Dyspropsia suggested. The common use is merely a definition. The specific example is relevant '''only''' because of its use in the googlebombs. Put it there. Copy it into the relevant political pages if you think it's relevant (I don't), but I disagree with the claim that it deserves its own page. ] 17:07, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Delete, for the same reasons as ] and ]. It would be too unweildy, and also significantly controversial to list all cults or purported cults (especially the latter). --]'s ] 07:50, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Ed Poor removed ] from the list. This will be subject to edit conflicts because it is inherently POV. If a Falun Gong member were here, that would be removed too. All that is needed is a link to ] and ]. --]] 07:52, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Neutral: It is a footer so it isn't that bad. But the list of cults has got to go and replaced with a link to an article listing groups that have are widely considered to be cults. --] 09:01, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Inevitably controversial and unnecessary.
*Delete. Tinder for future flame wars. <small>(Mother Teresa is a cult?)</small> ] 12:56, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)


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Is there going to be one of these for every Grand Slam in every year? By the end of the year, will there be four of these on the ] page with eighty names listed? At the end of five years, will there be twenty of them on her page? ]] 04:03, 28 May 2004 (UTC)


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The article was created with an incorrect spelling of this individual's patronymic. The correct way to spell is "Illarionovich". This was temporarily fixed by adding a redirect to the page, however, since the spelling is wrong, there is no reason for this redirect page to exist.
--] 16:21, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
:Keep. No real reason for deletion, nothing else needs that location and it's possible someone else would make the same mistake. By the way, for next time, there's a page for listing redirects to be deleted: ]. ] 16:31, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


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Dictdef for foreign language. Possible candidate to move to Wiktionary. →Iñgólemo← (talk) 07:49, 2004 Dec 5 (UTC)

  • Delete: Extremely suspicious dictdef: "Guff" is a common AmEng word for "sass, disrespectful speech," and the citation in this article is to Madame Blavatsky's group. Geogre 15:17, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete In English, guff means nonsense, which describes this article. Wyss 18:49, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • No Preference Guff is English. It comes from the Hebrew language as most english words originate from other languages. The description is accurate for English, but as mentioned above, perhaps does not cover all the ways the word is used. In "Madame Blavatsky's group" and quite possibly other groups, this is the meaning of the word. Knightt 19:21, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. dictdef. --MPerel 21:03, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

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Similar to Wan Ling Record. This was contributed by a user who was only around for one day and added only quotes. This article consists entirely of, not surprisingly, a series of quotes. - Nat Krause 14:18, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete. It's a name of some Buddhist text and this looks like a collection of quotes from it. I would be glad if Misplaced Pages had articles about Buddhist texts but they should be in encyclopedic style. Not collections of quotes without any explanation. Andris 14:52, May 24, 2004 (UTC)

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Text copied from front page of the site (Alexa rank of 127,106) which is the subject of this page. I'm uncertain whether the site is notable enough to have an article, but the current content is just an ad. — A.M. 18:30, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete. Advertisement for website. Also now listed as a copyvio, but that's irrelevant if we delete it anyway. No evidence that the site is encyclopedic, although it appears to be well done at first glance IMO. Andrewa 20:23, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Ad Wyss 20:24, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Ad Trust 20:25, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Ad Brody 20:25, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Ad MAtty 20:28, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Ad Jayjg 20:34, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: Ad, and Misplaced Pages is not a web guide. Geogre 22:10, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Absolutely, positively delete. ] 17:27, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Flashback to May: deleted 3-0. The previous version of the page is apparently no longer in the undelete database, so I can't say that it is a repost of the same material (which would make it a speedy). No vote. --rbrwr 14:43, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • keep - highly relevant to the web development and graphic design community's history
  • Obviously worthless. --YixilTesiphon
  • Relevant as documentation of an experiment in self moderation and community building online. mrRed

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The result was Update: I count 4 votes to delete. I'll delete the page now. Wile E. Heresiarch 16:35, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Knut_Lyngar

vanity page. Name gets 6 google hits. Zoda, who wrote this page, is Knut Lyngar's nickname according to . Maximus Rex 07:49, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

  • Greet new user. Then delete and remove image too. Dunc Harris | Talk 12:48, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity. Andrewa 14:44, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. City where his radio station is (Elverum) only has 18,000 inhabitants. According to our article on the county it's in (Hedmark) says it only has 4.1% of the population of Norway. We may want to clarify a policy on radio DJs. Most have 5,000+ listeners, but, other than Howard Stern and some others, I believe most listeners tune in for the station's format, not the DJ. (PS One of the Yahoo hits is this VfD listing. lol) Niteowlneils 15:51, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
FWIW, I've added "Non-syndicated radio disc-jockeys that haven't become a major news item due to controversy, etc. Out." to WIWO. Niteowlneils 19:27, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
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Non-notable musician. Name only gets two Google hits as a musician and one as an album cover designer. RickK 20:51, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete musical vanity/self-promotion. -- Cyrius|✎ 00:28, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. SWAdair | Talk 02:44, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete vanity. Since bands are all out of business and rappers and DJ's are in business, I suppose that means that we'll be getting 4 times the number of these articles, now. Geogre 03:31, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • I listed it as a speedy since this same article was deleted a couple of months ago. Can we make it go away again? - Lucky 6.9 18:27, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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I know that this article has been listed on VFD twice already, but you guys need to understand what is going on with this article:

This article is obvious googlebombing with the links, each "article" is really a link to one of the many thousands of domains this guy owns. These links are also found in many other related articles. Im sure David Pierce or an associate himself has been adding most of these links.

This guy owns these domain names: http://www.hedweb.com/paradise.html

By owning such a gigantic amount of cross linking domain names, his websites dominate many drug searches on google. David Pearce thus then might be notable enough for these facts, but these facts were removed from the article.

edit by the guy who put this on vfd:

Don't believe this guy is notable because of articles or interviews mentioned here, notice that most of those are hosted on his own websites so they are questionable. He might very well be notable for the gigantic amount of domain names he owns, all with some form of original content on them, which tend to dominate many search results, especially for obscure drugs. The problem is however, it is very likely him or a friend who created this article, or added the links to it, so its always a very potentially dangerous article.

  • (Above unsigned entry is from User:67.180.61.179).
  • David Pearce is a British visionary...bwhuaahaa...oh vanity alright. Delete. Wyllium 19:58, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)
  • Delete or edit down to stubbitude. --jpgordon{gab} 19:11, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • As it is, it's nothing but a link farm. Delete. DS 19:30, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. silsor 19:41, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Promotional. Slightly off-topic, but people might want to take a look at Talk:American World University#Handling promotional links. I'm suggesting that whenever someone has qualms about the promotional effect of a link but wish to preserve it as a service to readers, that it be replaced with a substitute from tinyurl or similar services. To my surprise, this is a controversial suggestion, but I'd like to explore it further or see whether others have better ideas. ] 19:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: Hooooooo boy those are some links! Putting nowiki in front of all of them works well, and while the article is on VfD, we're supposed to do that anyway. I'd almost have seen this speedied for patent nonsense. He wants to "abolish the chemical substrates of suffering?" What? I suffer, but I'm not sure it's on a chemical substratum level. Geogre 20:08, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • "the abolition of the chemical substrates of suffering in all sentient life.". Um, okay. Even if we got rid of the excessive links, this language itself makes it delete-worthy. Delete. RickK 20:58, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. --DMG413 22:22, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete Jayjg 12:04, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Vanity, Promo --Improv 15:38, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: vanity, promo. Wile E. Heresiarch 04:50, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Since Pearce is obviously a notable figure, the most sensible thing to do would be to shorten the bibliography section and delete all its links, which I have done. Loremaster 20:09, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • What is your evidence supporting the judgement "obviously a notable figure"? I'll admit that I don't see it and consider this currently a delete candidate. Rossami (talk) 06:02, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
      • As a leading figure in a movement that is getting increasing media, academic and political attention, Pearce should have an article. And, since the controversial content has been edited out of the article, this dispute is now moot. Loremaster 16:59, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure if I would call Pearce a "obviously notable figure", but his major work, The Hedonistic Imperative, is well-known within transhumanist communities. -- Schaefer 20:49, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Yes, this was quite likely created as a vanity page, but if the links can be kept off, it shouldn't be a problem. I'll admit that his only well-known writing is The Hedonistic Imperative, so while there's no profound need for a page just about him, the page has been edited to the point where it's no longer just blatant self-promotion. -- Schaefer 20:36, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. If this was created as a vanity page, it was not done by David Pearce or his associates - I know this fact personally. Some people are quick to play down the notability of others for obvious reasons. Given that there is no such thing as an unbiased attribution of value or notability - we should instead thank this fellow for his pioneering and visionary work. Ask yourselves if the abolition of suffering is more important than one's contribution to an impossibly "unbiased" collection, life is short.Sean Henderson 22:20, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Note that Sean Henderson is the name of one of David Pearce's associates (as mentioned in the article)67.180.61.179 02:01, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. While I find a great deal to dispute with the man and most of the Transhumanist movement I think at least from with in the movement his works are discussed and he's moderately well known. Notable? I hope not, but I wouldn't make that judgment for anyone else. —Florescentbulb 02:56, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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If David Pearce gets vfd'd, his organization ought to get put up for a vote as well. --DMG413 15:30, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • KEEP. This organization has been getting some significant attention due to the public interest in, and press coverage of, transhumanism. Let's not get carried away due to the problems with the David Pierce article. Loremaster 16:01, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • I'd rather not delete it for guilt by association, but what does this article actually say? It says, "WTA was founded by X & Y. It's goals are good. See the following 6 links." Abstain, pending any indication of notability whatever for anything good (as opposed to infamy for being a spam factory). Geogre 19:42, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Definitely notable. --Improv 20:04, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. I don't like that logic, we can't eliminate anything just because its creator is non-notable. - Lifefeed 21:12, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep for reasons stated by Loremaster. GRider 23:05, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Pearce's notability is questionable, but I consider the co-founder Nick Bostrom notable and the WTA itself even more so. -- Schaefer 21:08, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Definite keep. I would like to see some expansion though, maybe on the lines of what sets this transhumanist group apart or makes it unique among the others. Any takers? Inky 04:51, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, and BAH! on Transhumanists. —Florescentbulb 03:59, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete link repository. Might as well say North Valley Clown Alley was founded by Bongo the Clown and other clowns. They win awards. Everyone loves clowns. See the following 8 clown web pages. and y'all know I love clowns. Pedant 08:04, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)
  • Keep, strongly disagree with Pedant's analogy here. Stop clowning around, deletionism is serious business. ] 17:52, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - Trollminator 21:40, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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Vanity. No Alexa data , no indication on website that there are any other members of this "art movement" besides David Kam. - Hephaestos|§ 20:43, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

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Vollis is a team game/sport, invented, first played and coined in 2002 AD. Vollis is set to grow quite large in the near future and there is a distinct possibility that it could be an Olympic sport by 2012-2016. I can't find any references via google. Vollis doesn't seem to be notable enough for an article in wikipedia. Thue 14:25, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

  • Delete. The final claim that it may be an Olympic sport by 2012 is patent nonsense, and contributes to the impression that this is just a sport thought up by a bunch of kids, and that it hasn't spread much outside that group. Also, a search for the word 'vollis' on search engines produces large numbers of hits for a folk artist called Vollis Simpson, but nothing related to this game. Average Earthman 16:28, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • "2002 AD," no less. Delete as patent nonsense. - Lucky 6.9 18:45, 27 May 2004
  • Delete - Tεxτurε 19:13, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Looks like nonsense. Delete. -- Cyrius|&#9998 19:35, May 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Nonsense. Abigail 21:30, May 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep it, even if the assumption is made that kids or some other people you wish to call unnotable invented it, how do you think sports that are played worldwide began? Isn't the Misplaced Pages a place for people to access any information of interest? If you can't find it on Google after idly clicking around, think of how difficult it would be for someone to find it out of genuine interest (rather than cynicism) without the Misplaced Pages article? Boutros Boutros
    • I just adore sockpuppets. They're so cute and cuddly. - Lucky 6.9 16:51, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
    • Just to answer the claim by a poster who has never posted anywhere else - apart from the fact that the majority of 'vanity' articles on Misplaced Pages are contributed by teenagers who appear to lack a proper sense of perspective, the utter obscurity of the game means it is not currently worthy including. As for 'if you can't find it on Google after idly clicking', I used both Google and Teoma, and found only articles about Vollis Simpson or pages in German which my admittedly abysmal grasp of German suggests to me are about some form of table football, one mention of the chairman of the President of the Pan-Macedonian Association, and one reference to US soldier with the surname 'Vollis'. Happy now? Average Earthman 17:44, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
    • Well well well, contempt for developing games, disregard for new users to web communities, dislike of teenagers.........Sounds to me like you have a touch of conservative elitism in you. Some people obviously feel uncomfortable when there's changes happening in the world that upset ideals of a concrete state of reality...Fair enough, you can't find the thing on Google, still I think this site's entire purpose is for information, or am I wrong? Boutros Boutros
      • Information, yes, but information about somewhat established stuff of generel interest, ie informative stuff. There is no indication that vollis has grown outside the group of teenagers who invented it. The problem is also that the information is not verifiable. Delete the article for now, but if vollis ever gets widespread we should have an article about it. Thue 09:15, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. If it becomes widely known, we can recreate it, but it does not merit an article now. Andris 02:02, Jun 1, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. For verification see this News thread from 1994, or this google search. It seems it is not only a game but also a bicycle brand. Why don't you deletists work on verifiing these things instead of just listing stuff all the time. Boutros Boutross point is a very good one, even though it doesn't look like this term was coined in 2002....
    • No. I looked through google hits from your search (ones which were in English). There is exactly 1 hit about vollis game. The rest are mostly about people with first/last name being Vollis. 1 google hit does not justify inclusion. Andris 19:50, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)

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This had a VFD before that stated keep; although it's mentioned in Allmusic.com (according to User:Wyllium), the article itself is dead-end. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 04:51, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

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Orphan, dubious. Unvarifiable, vanity or prank? Top google hits for "Mr.Bits" don't seem relevant. Zero google hits for the terms Mr.Bits Chicago Comedian together, no hits for "The Bits & Clone Show", Bitskateers. -- Infrogmation 18:34, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

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Either this is a real term presented poorly or it's the greatest piece of quackery I've ever seen here. Is there a physicist in the house? - Lucky 6.9 18:38, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

  • From what (little) physics I know I can't find any inaccuracies. I think it would be more appropriate to list this at Misplaced Pages:Pages_needing_attention. I have listed it there. Thue 18:56, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Real term poorly presented. Move to Clean-up. I'll try if/when I can find my old textbooks. Rossami 20:59, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • "Quantum phase transition" gets over 7000 google hits. Clicking on a few google hits suggest that the page isn't blatent nonsense. I don't know enough of quantum physics to know how accurate the information is - but since I lack the knowledge to judge the accuracy, I won't vote for delete. Abigail 21:04, May 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Real phenomenon. Not a good VfD listing IMO, we should be listing and voting on things we do know something about (as others have said more gently). There are other places for asking questions. As Misplaced Pages grows this becomes more and more important. Andrewa 21:09, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • In either case it doesn't belong on VfD. If it is a real term presented poorly, it is still clearly a encyclopedic topic and doesn't belong on VfD. On the other hand, if the person who posted the VfD request doesn't understand the topic well enough to determine if it is "quackery", it doesn't belong on VfD. Keep. ElBenevolente 21:16, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • That's perfectly OK with me. It's not that I didn't understand the topic. It was so badly written that I simply couldn't comprehend what I was reading. There was a patently nonsensical article here last week that was couched in pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. I wasn't certain if this was the same sort of thing, hence my electing to bring it here. It's already on "pages needing attention," so by all means, keep. And let's try and keep the personal attacks to a minimum, OK? - Lucky 6.9 21:34, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment - Mikkalai has revised the article. It's certainly more readable now, anyway. Average Earthman 17:48, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

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The most ridiculous list of people I have seen here so far, as everyon not on List of people who commited suicide can be listed there. I was tempted to delete it by speedy deletion directly as being patent nonsense. andy 20:12, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

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Ladies and gentlemen. Presented for your voting pleasure is an individual of eclectic background who garners an incredible two hits on Google, both referring back to his/her own articles on other sites. - Lucky 6.9 21:46, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

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Cannot be found on either Allmusic.com or Google. Vanity? --Wyllium 21:58, 2004 May 27 (UTC)

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There's nothing in this article that actually means anything, and even what it appears to mean is too trivial to be worth mentioning. Tonusperegrinus 22:27, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was keep. This doesn't preclude redirect, but there isn't a consensus to redirect. --Tony Sidaway 13:45, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

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Apologies, was not logged in.

I do not expect you to understand the importance a mutable archive of Mudgik would provide the Mudgik community. The remark is blunderous; importance is relative.

It is not a website it was a MUD.

It exists today in two forms (I am still researching them).


For more MUDs that aren't 'that important' please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/MUD#Popular_MU*s


Keepers. Yeago 04:09, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Claire Chow

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Delete - as the pages states, a student who works for Canada customs at Lester Pearson Airport. Burgundavia 03:31, May 28, 2004 (UTC)

It's already gone. RickK 03:32, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Bikeshed

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Dicdef of a slang term. And if it were to be kept, it should be moved to Bikeshedding. RickK 03:46, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Advanet

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This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of the page entitled Advanet.

This page is kept as an historic record.

The result of the debate was to delete the article.

Some explanation? What is it? Is this worth keeping? RickK 03:54, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue or the deletion should be placed on other relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

Template:Top seeds for French Open 2004

Is there going to be one of these for every Grand Slam in every year? By the end of the year, will there be four of these on the Serena Williams page with eighty names listed? At the end of five years, will there be twenty of them on her page? RickK 04:03, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Miscible

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Dicdef. Meelar 04:22, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

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This section describes how to list articles and their associated talk pages for deletion. For pages that are not articles, list them at other appropriate deletion venues or use copyright violation where applicable. As well, note that deletion may not be needed for problems such as pages written in foreign languages, duplicate pages, and other cases. Use Misplaced Pages:Proposed mergers for discussion of mergers.

Only a registered, logged-in user can complete steps II and III. (Autoconfirmed registered users can also use the Twinkle tool to make nominations.) If you are unregistered, you should complete step I, note the justification for deletion on the article's talk page, then post a message at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for deletion requesting that someone else complete the process.

You must sign in to nominate pages for deletion. If you do not sign-in, or you edit anonymously, you will get stuck part way through the nomination procedure.

I – Put the deletion tag on the article.
  • Insert {{subst:afd1}} at the top of the article. Do not mark the edit as minor.
    If this article has been nominated before, use {{subst:afdx|2nd}} or {{subst:afdx|3rd}} etc.
  • Include in the edit summary AfD: Nominated for deletion; see ]. replacing NominationName with the name of the page being nominated. Publish the page.
    The NominationName is normally the article name (PageName), but if it has been nominated before, use "PageName (2nd nomination)" or "PageName (3rd nomination)" etc.)
II – Create the article's deletion discussion page.

The resulting AfD box at the top of the article should contain a link to "Preloaded debate" in the AfD page. Click that link to open the article's deletion discussion page for editing. Some text and instructions will appear.

You can do it manually as well:

  • Click the link saying "deletion discussion page" to open the deletion-debate page.
  • Insert this text:
    {{subst:afd2 | pg=PageName | cat=Category | text=Why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
    Replace PageName with the name of the page, Category with a letter from the list M, O, B, S, W, G, T, F, and P to categorize the debate, and Why the page should be deleted with the reasons the page should be deleted.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
  • Use an edit summary such as Creating deletion discussion for ]. Publish the page.
III – Notify users who monitor AfD discussions.
  • Open the articles for deletion log page for editing.
  • At the top of the list on the log page (there's a comment indicating the spot), insert:{{subst:afd3 | pg=NominationName}}
    Replace NominationName appropriately (use "PageName", "PageName (2nd nomination)", etc.)
  • Link to the discussion page in your edit summary: Adding ]. Publish the page.
  • Consider letting the authors know on their talk page by adding: {{subst:Afd notice|Page name}} ~~~~
    If this is not the first nomination, add a second parameter with the NominationName (use "PageName (2nd nomination)" etc.): {{subst:Afd notice|PageName|NominationName}} ~~~~
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