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Assessment request...

Hello WikiProject Christianity. I requested an assessment for the article Sergei Kourdakov about a month and a half ago but no one has assessed it unfortunately. Could someone qualified please do so soon? Thank you very much. Sorafune +1 18:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Request for comment on Biographies of living people

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether[REDACTED] will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

1. supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
2. opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

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List of cleanup articles for your project

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Moving unreferenced blp articles to special "incubation pages"

If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles that your project covers, to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip

Watchlisting all unreferenced articles

If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip

Ikip 08:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Getting close to edit warring on Christian Conventions article

I would appreciate uninvolved editors having a look at the intense editing at Christian Conventions. Blanking of referenced material and unsupported dispute tagging by one editor in particular has increased during the last days, with no references in support of the blanking/tagging being given by the editor when asked. This has been a problem in the past, is wearying to other editors, and doesn't move the article forward. Since I am involved in editing the article, uninvolved editors might again offer ways to get back on track. If there is a better venue for handling this, I'd appreciate a pointer, since I'm not sure how to categorize this sort of situation. • Astynax 00:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

If the edit conflicts are very active, then I would suggest sending a complaint to the requests for page protection area. I myself have sent complaints to that page a few times. Backtable _{Speak to me} 00:57, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully this editor will figure out that he shouldn't be blanking and dispute tagging without some solid rationale. Several editors have tried to explain this to him. Though I'm among the frustrated, still, I'd rather the editor "get it" soon. This is the only really contentious article I've edited, and the combination of unreferenced dispute tagging and blanking didn't seem to fit any of the descriptions of behavior I'd read on pages describing disruptions. I figured someone here would have encountered a similar situation, so thank you, I will check out the link.. • Astynax 04:10, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad to be of service. Backtable _{Speak to me} 04:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing that the editor you referred to was unregistered. I've requested page semi-protection. Student7 (talk) 12:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

There is an unregistered editor(s) who seem to pop in only to fan flames, so that will help. The other editor seems to have temporarily stepped back since being warned by third editor. We'll see whether they come back in a more constructive frame. Thank you for helping. • Astynax 18:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Barely failed GA of Genealogy of Jesus

There are only a few issues that the reviewer felt should be addressed, but the main contributor that improved the aritcle hasn't been around for a while. I helped with a few small things, but it's not really my area of expertise. Can anyone address the issues raised on Talk:Genealogy of Jesus/GA1? Then the article could be renominated and achieve GA status. ...but what do you think? ~BFizz 06:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Alfred Seiwert-Fleige

Could someone please take a look at Alfred Seiwert-Fleige? It is unclear whether this bishop is currently in communion with Rome, and I don't know enough about traditionalist Catholic churches to be able to evaluate the article. There is a speedy tag on the article; remove it if that is what you think you should do. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I can appreciate the difficulty. Whew! Anyway, it seems to me that he is a bishop of some church. Not sure which one, and therefore deserves and article which, however needs to be referenced with WP:RELY sources. A lot of the stuff I glanced at didn't seems to be specifically referenced. In his case, it definitely needs to be! Good luck! Student7 (talk) 14:00, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

New work group

I would like to start new work group: Serbian Orthodox Church but I dont know how to do that. Can someone help?--Vojvodae please be free to write :) 08:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

RFC for Another Gospel

Please see Talk:Another_Gospel#RfC:_NPOV_and_article_Another_Gospel. Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 00:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Please look at Christian Ethics

I read the entry under "Christian Ethics" and found that it is not only weak and often historically incorrect, it also violates the Neutral Point of View rule. Rather than edit it, myself --because of time-constraints-- I wrote my critiques on the Discussion Page. There are two, one on the article in general, and the other on "Protestant Ethics." It is the second that concerned me the most, as it not only was biased against Protestantism, it was also lacking in any historical perspective. These problems (NPOV, factual errors and lack of historical perspective, in my judgement, weaken not just the Protestant section, but the entire article. As I am a Protestant and familiar with Protestant history and thought I felt comfortable criticizing that section. It would be good for others to examine the whole article. What do others think?--Comsources (talk) 03:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Seeking sources for the phrase "Another Gospel"

I'm looking for a Misplaced Pages-suitable source (or sources) substantiating a link between the title of the book Another Gospel and the Apostle Paul's use of this phrase (Galatians 1:6) to describe heresy in the first-century church. Failing that, I'd like to find a suitable source linking this phrase to the views and aims of the Christian countercult movement. In my opinion (and I'm sure I'm not alone), Galatians 1:6 is "obviously" the origin of the title of Ruth Tucker's book — but clearly that's not sufficient justification for saying so in a Misplaced Pages article, hence my quest for sources so this fact can legitimately be noted in Another Gospel and/or Christian countercult movement. Any help would be welcome. Thanks. Richwales (talk) 04:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Catholic social teaching

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Catholic social teaching/GA1. I have placed the article on hold for seven days. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Michael Jackson

Could someone explain why there is a wiki link about Michael Jackson on the main page? I would remove it myself, but I have no idea how to do that. --209.244.30.253 (talk) 05:52, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I removed it. -Pollinosisss (talk) 08:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Theology work group

Is there anyone interested to collaborate in Christian theology work group?--Vojvodae please be free to write :) 17:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

"Evangelcal Lutheran" not possible in English

A single user has changed the entries of the ELCA's German sister churches to their German names because he thinks the "concept" can't be translated. Most of the discussion takes place on the[REDACTED] article on the Evangelical Church in Germany, the roof organisation of the Evangelical (Lutheran) churches in Germany. Maybe you have a look? Because according to that user (and he really insists) the Church should not be called that way. Some of the member churches are outspoken Lutheran like the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria, some are "united" like the Evangelical Church in the Rhineland, 2 are Reformed like the Evangelical Reformed Church. Usually one member church covers a unique area (pretty much like a diocese). Maybe you want to take part in the discussion? --Mk4711 (talk) 12:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

RfC - prefixes in article title of Eastern Orthodox officials

An RfC is currently open (Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(clergy)#naming_convention_associated_with_Eastern_Orthodox_officials) regarding the appropriateness of having position titles in the article title of religious Eastern Orthodox officials. Commentary would be welcomed, as the WP:NCWC talk page has a low level of activity.--Labattblueboy (talk) 17:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ammended: The proposal currently tables is to remove of all prefix religious titles, positions and/or honours from the article title.--Labattblueboy (talk) 20:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Ōura Cathedral

On Talk:Ōura Cathedral I proposed a move ... Ōura Catholic Church, which that religious community actually calls it, or its formal name. The current name could be kept as an redirect. Please give a look and input. Thanks. --Aphaia (talk) 18:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Catholic Church reorganization proposal - comments welcome

A proposal has been made to restructure and shorten the article Catholic Church. Comments on whether or not the proposed changed should be implemented are welcome. Karanacs (talk) 22:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Jacob Frank now a mascot for Misplaced Pages sister project Wikiversity

Hi, I'm developing Jacob Frank (an 18th-century Jew who led his own religious movement called Frankism, and ultimately converted to Christianity) as a mascot for Misplaced Pages's sister project Wikiversity. Wikiversity aims to be an online open school and university, and was also created to host original research. Because of its nature, it's open to educational resources in almost any format. Wikiversity's mascots appear on User talk pages when new Users are welcomed. In my opinion, the Wikiversity mascots could be used more fully as an opportunity to teach. The previously developed Wikiversity mascots lack intrinsic educational value. For example, they include a jack-o-lantern, a goat and twin babies not noticeably tied to anything else. In contrast, Jacob Frank is tied to a chapter of history that is relatively little-known and is probably interesting to some people who might not have heard of him beforehand. I'm also hoping to use his professed ignorance in real life and the Frankist doctrine of "purification through transgression" to introduce the Wikiversity policies of "Be bold" and "Ignore all rules" (Misplaced Pages has very similar policies with the same names). I would appreciate your going over to Wikiversity to provide feedback on the pages about the mascot: v:User:JacobFrank and v:Template:JacobFrank. The Template is left on new Users' talk pages; the Userpage is linked from the template and provides more information about Jacob Frank. Also, any ideas for other Wikiversity mascots? Thanks. --AFriedman (talk) 04:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot

Your project uses User:WolterBot, which occasionally gives your project maintenance-related listings.

User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects provides a list, updated daily, of unreferenced living people articles (BLPs) related to your project.

Here is an example of a project which uses User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects:

• Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Cricket_articles/Unreferenced_BLPs

There has been a lot of discussion recently about deleting these unreferenced articles, so it is important that these articles are referenced.

The unreferenced living people articles related to your project will be found here: /Unreferenced BLPs.

If you do not want this wikiproject to participate, please add your project name to this list.

Thank you. Okip 08:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article Candidate: Go review it!

St. Michael's Cathedral, Qingdao is a current FA candidate. So far nobody has supported or opposed the nomination. Please make your opinion known. Review Page Here ɳorɑfʈ 16:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Requested Move Of Genesis Creation Myth

here Thank you For you time Weaponbb7 (talk) 17:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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